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| CD Freak Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Almost there
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| PX-716 heart transplant Well, my 716SA has been poorly lately, having trouble initializing most burned DVD's and falling back to 4X burn speed even on the best media. Reading doesn't go over 8X either. Did a thorough clean-up inside and even fiddled with the two set screws at the bottom of the PUH (assuming these are for CD and DVD laser intensity respectively), all to no avail. Getting a double-blink on the self-test with MCC004 too .Being the Plex I went through the most trouble to obtain and not wanting to exchange it for an 810SA , I went ahead and "borrowed" the complete internal chassis from a spare 716A I have. This is surprisingly easy, with just 4 screws and 3 flat cable clips to undo. This is the result: |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Nice job Cressida! Glad it turned out OK ![]() Love the thread title BTW ![]()
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Thanks, Arachne .Well, PIF in the original drive do appear to be lower (would need more tests), but PowerRec worked better in the repaired unit, keeping PIE in check at a lower level .Anyway, since I prefer SATA over PATA, I won't hesitate using the 716SA like this. Will add more results when I have them. Tried one last 4X burn with the original 716SA. Still works, but it's no use... ![]() |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Quote:
![]() Yes, that last burn is a bit of a tragedy... ![]()
__________________ Current drives: Samsung SH-S203N (SB02 patched) + Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! ![]() The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here | |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant I'm confused. Why didn't you just take the non-working burner out and put the whole spare in its place?
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Oh ok, cool. I missed the different model numbers - 716 / 716SA
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Hmm, the best first GB I ever saw with these, but the worst last GB as well. This got me worried enough to put the internal chassis back into the original (PATA) 716A drive and run another test (convinced that it would be much better). Well, apparently not - PowerRec musn't like these discs to go all haywire like that? Never had this problem with these discs in other drives - confusing... |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Found an old Plex burn in the spindle (this was with my former 755A PATA drive). Seems like PowerRec really can't get a grip on these. Faith restored (just when I put the other 716A drive - and bad optics - back in the box / I'll be doing the switch in record time next) ![]() |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Alright, after switching the internals back to the 716SA, I tested some more Riteks with PowerRec/AutoStrategy Off etc., but they just don't work well. So next I tried a Daxon, which can be compared with 755UF burns here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/2004226-post205.html . Low speed yes, but I'd say my "716A/SA" did pretty well . PowerRec falls back to 8X with these in a simulation anyway. |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant heck yeah, that's why we're CD/DVD Freaks no guts no glory i always say ![]() Thanks for the thread Cressida |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant I wouldn't call it glory Bob, more of a makeshift solution . Anyway, I'm happy the 716SA still works (and the 716A too, I just can't use them at the same time ). Not that I ever planned to, I actually bought that 716A with a possible repair of my older 716UF in the back of my mind. Fate has decided otherwise.Here's another good burn with my mediocre Panasonics (they all have the problem around 2.5GB and there's scuff marks near the outer edge, hence the slowdown): |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Damm......my Plextor refuses to Burn Verbatim +R....... I have to open it, and chech the cables......and maybe clean the laser..... Strangly, it burns well -R... ![]() ![]() Tomorow, i will open it....... Can loose "my Baby"........ ![]()
__________________ Plextor 716 TLA#0202 1.10 + Lite-On 167 Hackspeed + Benq 1640 "TLA#May" BSLB + Lite-On 20A1L |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Well, i couldn`t live, with my Plextor refusing to Burn Verbatim anymore.. ![]() So.... I did OPEN IT AGAIN!! ![]() ![]() Inside....... ![]() Ok...this cable was my firt concernation....the first time after my Plextor Died, i notice that it was kind of loose, or badly conected.. It was ok! ![]() ![]() First problem: I did open the machine, and that litle piece of plastic, on the left, was outside is natural place.... Easly, i could find his right place. Its the part, that open the tray, manually...as you can see here: ![]() ![]() Here, i can see some dirty,,,,i did clean everthing, carefully, with cotton, dry. Also the laser. ![]() Finaly.... ![]() ![]() WTF?!?!? Yes....dear cdfreaks...i did use a litle of natural oil, from the kitchen, to put in mobil pieces of the laser part.... ![]() ![]() Did it work? Well, i reintall FW 1.11, then i did put a DL movie on the PC, for 3 hours.....after all that time, i did try to burn a Verbatim +R, at 12X. Result: ![]() At 41%, it did droop the speed, and stayed at 8X..... Not bad ![]() Mordorr P.S. - Don`t try this at home kids! Only staff from cdfreaks!! ![]() ![]() ![]()
__________________ Plextor 716 TLA#0202 1.10 + Lite-On 167 Hackspeed + Benq 1640 "TLA#May" BSLB + Lite-On 20A1L |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant Thanks for the report and the nice pictures and congratulations to the successful revival of your 716 ![]() Anyone who wants to follow this example be warned that using natural oil is a bad option. It's not durable and may cause more harm, even short term. |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant You cdfreaks are absulutely right! DO NOT USE NATURAL OIL!!! Since i didn`t have other product to use...... Where can i get that white stuff, i see on the burners, to oil? All in consideration, i did get the recognize and burn Verbatim ![]() ![]() For how long? Don`t now, but it will give-me another beautifull chance, to try another rescue operation...lol ![]() My last burn, at 12X, with no stops: It seems there is some problems, at 4/5% on the Burn.... But nothing serious ![]()
__________________ Plextor 716 TLA#0202 1.10 + Lite-On 167 Hackspeed + Benq 1640 "TLA#May" BSLB + Lite-On 20A1L |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant That white stuff is grease, not oil. However i've no idea what kind exactly and where you can get it. Most likely it's a specialized kind for use in electronic equipment, and is also used in tape recorders, VCRs, printers and the like. I guess a repair shop might be able to tell you. |
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| Re: PX-716 heart transplant I agree. I must check the store of electronic here in Porto City.... I won`t give up of this Plextor... It still runs solid.....some nice manutencion, is what it needs ![]() ![]() Mordorr
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