PlextorPX-2410A+GTA3(Sd2.51.021)=Success! - Club CDFreaks

a3ternus · 16-07-2002

I m sure its been mentioned before somewhere on this forum but I think its

worth mentioned since I didnt quite succeeded in backing up MOHAA (I could

only use it in my Plextor using "Hide CDR Media")...
My settings for GTA 3 (using 700MB no name CDRs) are these :
Read: max
Read settings, Fast error skip, read retries: 5
Error correction: NONE
Read subchannel data from data tracks: checked
Read subchannel data from audio tracks: checked
Audio extraction quality: best (slowest)
Fast skip error: on
Regenerate Data Sectors: ON
Everything else UNCHECKED!

Write settings: RAO DAO
Write: max
Buffer underrun protection: checked
AWS(Amplify weak sectors): unchecked
Don't repair subchannel data: checked
Always close last session: checked

V@A · 16-07-2002

Did you try it default GAME Settings of clonecd too?

Morglum007 · 17-07-2002

I would like to say....only partially perfect backups because in some drives do not work even with AWS enabled.

a3ternus · 17-07-2002

I didnt actually used the default schemes of CloneCD4,just the setting I wrote on my first post...
Well,so far the game plays ok on my Hitachi GD-7500 DVD and a friends Toshiba DVD drive...
What made me think twice abt the whole thing though was that the cd I copied was already a back up cd and NOT the original disk...But still the scaeers Safedisk Analyzer And Clony XXL said it was Safedisk 2.51.021...
So,is it still a matter of Plextor and CCD 4 getting it right or not ?!? I m not sure now...
Nikitas.

Pirate80 · 18-07-2002

I hate to say it but the settings look kind of familiar:

Read settings, Fast error skip, read retries: 5
Error correction: NONE
Read subchannel data from data tracks: checked
Read subchannel data from audio tracks: checked
Audio extraction quality: best (slowest)
Fast skip error: on
Regenerate Data Sectors: ON
Everything else UNCHECKED!

Write settings: RAO DAO
Write: max
Buffer underrun protection: checked
AWS(Amplify weak sectors): unchecked
Don't repair subchannel data: checked
Always close last session: checked

It looks similar to the settings from old posts dating back when SD2.51.021 first came out and people were freaking out. If I am correct , there were people who posted that they got working backups of MOH:AA by enabling the reading of subchannel data from both audio and data track and by enabling the "Don't repair subchannel data" in the write settings. Of course, we all know that these settings don't work (right?). My suggestion is to use the latest BetaBlocker if using AWS does not work (or use a Safedisc unwrapper if all else fails, although I am not quite sure about the legality of these programs).

**G@M3FR3@K** · 18-07-2002

Yes indeed. The games don't have any SubChannel Data so there's no point in reading it. Personally I've had success with GTA3 in both the Plex 40x and PleXCombo PX-320A when AWS was enabled. The back-ups worked in every drive I tested (of course when playing from a writer the 'Hide CDR Media' option has to be enabled).

a3ternus · 22-07-2002

Pirate80 is right....i found the settings which were obviously posted before I did my backups.
Anyway,at least i tried to help some ppl...
Hope the new CCD will help us Plextor users backup SD2.51+ in the future without so much hussle...
Nikitas.

16-07-2002	#1 (permalink)
a3ternus New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9	PlextorPX-2410A+GTA3(Sd2.51.021)=Success! <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I m sure its been mentioned before somewhere on this forum but I think its worth mentioned since I didnt quite succeeded in backing up MOHAA (I could only use it in my Plextor using "Hide CDR Media")... My settings for GTA 3 (using 700MB no name CDRs) are these : Read: max Read settings, Fast error skip, read retries: 5 Error correction: NONE Read subchannel data from data tracks: checked Read subchannel data from audio tracks: checked Audio extraction quality: best (slowest) Fast skip error: on Regenerate Data Sectors: ON Everything else UNCHECKED! Write settings: RAO DAO Write: max Buffer underrun protection: checked AWS(Amplify weak sectors): unchecked Don't repair subchannel data: checked Always close last session: checked

17-07-2002	#3 (permalink)
Morglum007 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 322	I would like to say....only partially perfect backups because in some drives do not work even with AWS enabled. __________________ Morglum007 out!

17-07-2002	#4 (permalink)
a3ternus New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9	Hmmm... I didnt actually used the default schemes of CloneCD4,just the setting I wrote on my first post... Well,so far the game plays ok on my Hitachi GD-7500 DVD and a friends Toshiba DVD drive... What made me think twice abt the whole thing though was that the cd I copied was already a back up cd and NOT the original disk...But still the scaeers Safedisk Analyzer And Clony XXL said it was Safedisk 2.51.021... So,is it still a matter of Plextor and CCD 4 getting it right or not ?!? I m not sure now... Nikitas.

18-07-2002	#5 (permalink)
Pirate80 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USA Posts: 176	Why don't you people ever get it? I hate to say it but the settings look kind of familiar: Read settings, Fast error skip, read retries: 5 Error correction: NONE Read subchannel data from data tracks: checked Read subchannel data from audio tracks: checked Audio extraction quality: best (slowest) Fast skip error: on Regenerate Data Sectors: ON Everything else UNCHECKED! Write settings: RAO DAO Write: max Buffer underrun protection: checked AWS(Amplify weak sectors): unchecked Don't repair subchannel data: checked Always close last session: checked It looks similar to the settings from old posts dating back when SD2.51.021 first came out and people were freaking out. If I am correct , there were people who posted that they got working backups of MOH:AA by enabling the reading of subchannel data from both audio and data track and by enabling the "Don't repair subchannel data" in the write settings. Of course, we all know that these settings don't work (right?). My suggestion is to use the latest BetaBlocker if using AWS does not work (or use a Safedisc unwrapper if all else fails, although I am not quite sure about the legality of these programs). __________________ "The greatest thing you will ever learn is just to love and to be loved in return"

18-07-2002	#6 (permalink)
G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	Yes indeed. The games don't have any SubChannel Data so there's no point in reading it. Personally I've had success with GTA3 in both the Plex 40x and PleXCombo PX-320A when AWS was enabled. The back-ups worked in every drive I tested (of course when playing from a writer the 'Hide CDR Media' option has to be enabled). __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

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16-07-2002	#2 (permalink)
V@A CD Freaks Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 137	Did you try it default GAME Settings of clonecd too?

22-07-2002	#7 (permalink)
a3ternus New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9	Yes... Pirate80 is right....i found the settings which were obviously posted before I did my backups. Anyway,at least i tried to help some ppl... Hope the new CCD will help us Plextor users backup SD2.51+ in the future without so much hussle... Nikitas.

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