Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? - Club CDFreaks

DixieNormous · 11-01-2006

Hi all!
Sorry for this noob question.....
As I can't buy a PX Premium CDRW to make 1:1 copies of SecuRom games using Blindwrite, will the Plextor PX-716A DVD burner do the trick?
Thanks!

Juhuslik · 11-01-2006

Probably it will not do that

2Off3 · 11-01-2006

Hi
my PX-716A can burn Securom with Blindwrite (Barbie Games)

dermoritz · 13-01-2006

what i know about securom (at least the old versions) and blindwrite: blindwrite abuses the gigarec function to reproduce the physical structure or at least the behavior of it(different relative accesstimes of tracks). so all drive with "gigarec" should have the same capabilities, imho.

*alexnoe* · 13-01-2006

It doesn't work, though the question is if the drive can't do it or if VSO was threatened

2Off3 · 13-01-2006

Hi
what version do you use ?

-=sidewinder=- · 13-01-2006

I don't know if the PX-716 can make copies of securom protectet discs - but the new PX-755 can!
I made a copy of an securom v7 protectet game, and it works just fine

Regards

*alexnoe* · 13-01-2006

The question was a bit misphrased: Emulation doesn't count. The Plextor Premium can make correct copies of SecuROM 4.8 discs which *really* work, which don't require some kind of emulation.

Quote:

2Off3

I remember VSO saying it didn't work because Plextor prevented it from working. Since Plextor Europe is customer friendly, you might want to guess which Plextor departement was that...

DixieNormous · 15-01-2006

Hey Sidewinder
Thanks for that info.....did you use any emulation? Have you tested your copy of the Securom v 7 game in another PC which doesn't have Blindwrite installed? Incidentally, what game did you copy? And what version of Blindwrite did you use?
Given that you were able to make a copy, how did you do the .bwa file? Did you use the BWA builder, or did you use the Alcohol technique and convert to .bwa file?
Thanks!

Cyker · 16-01-2006

Apparently, there was a 'bug' (Feature!

) in the Premium which let a program reset the GigaRec settings on the fly during a burn - This is what enabled BlindWrite to tweak the track lengths etc.

In the 716, this 'bug' as sadly fixed which is that, while the 716 can do GigaRec, it can't do track-length alterations because the GigaRec settings is fixed from the start of the burn to the end.

The 716 can still use the Twin Peaks method to successfully copy most things 'tho.

-=sidewinder=- · 16-01-2006

I usedthis guide to made a backup of "Vietcong 2".
Software was Blindwrite 5.2.16 and Alcohol 1.9.5.
I did not test it on other computers, but I think it is a 1:1 copy

Regards

2Off3 · 16-01-2006

Hi
there is NO Emu Soft installed i used an old VSO version ....497 or so !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexnoe

The question was a bit misphrased: Emulation doesn't count. The Plextor Premium can make correct copies of SecuROM 4.8 discs which *really* work, which don't require some kind of emulation.
I remember VSO saying it didn't work because Plextor prevented it from working. Since Plextor Europe is customer friendly, you might want to guess which Plextor departement was that...

DixieNormous · 17-01-2006

Hey Sidewinder
I am looking for internet resellers for the PX-755... any suggestions?
Thanks
Dixie

*alexnoe* · 17-01-2006

www.alternate.de <= It has been there for a month already

-=sidewinder=- · 17-01-2006

I bought mine at www.e-bug.de for 95 €
they delivered 24 h after release of the PX-755 in Europe.

11-01-2006	#1 (permalink)
DixieNormous New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 25	Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hi all! Sorry for this noob question..... As I can't buy a PX Premium CDRW to make 1:1 copies of SecuRom games using Blindwrite, will the Plextor PX-716A DVD burner do the trick? Thanks!

11-01-2006	#2 (permalink)
Juhuslik CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Estonia Posts: 298	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? Probably it will not do that __________________ If You Don't Know, Then Ask ... Current drives: NEC ND-4571:LiteOn SOHD-167T:SHD-16P1S:2x Plextor Premium:Plextor PX-716SA:Plextor PX-712A: LiteOn SHW-16H5S:LiteOn SOHW-1693S:LiteOn SH-16A7S:LH-18A1H:Optiarc AD-7173A: NEC ND-4551:BENQ DW1640:Plextor PX-608U:Plextor PX-760A:Philips SPD6000FD:Pioneer DVR-111D: Samsung SE-W164L:Plextor PX-760SA/JP:PX-716UFL Japan Anniversary Edition. Special thanks for that goes to koba Sony DW-Q58@Dell Latitude D620 changed to Optiarc AD-7543A

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2Off3 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 64	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? Hi my PX-716A can burn Securom with Blindwrite (Barbie Games) __________________ CU 2Of3

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dermoritz CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 47	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? what i know about securom (at least the old versions) and blindwrite: blindwrite abuses the gigarec function to reproduce the physical structure or at least the behavior of it(different relative accesstimes of tracks). so all drive with "gigarec" should have the same capabilities, imho.

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alexnoe CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 4,613	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? It doesn't work, though the question is if the drive can't do it or if VSO was threatened __________________ Asus P4C800E-Deluxe, Win XP, P4/2800 HT, 2048 MB RAM, 600 GB HDD, Plextor PX712/716/755/Premium, LG 4120B, Pioneer A08, Pioneer A09, NEC ND-3540A/4550A ------------------------------------------------ If at first you don't succeed, redefine success! How a troll wants to force users of Linux to buy Windows just to make use of Plextor DVD writer unique functions ------------------------------------------------ PxScan/PxView (compatible to Premium, PX-712, PX-714, PX-716), now with built-in picture file output Bitsetting via Autostart My Blog about DADVSI (new french copyright)

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2Off3 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 64	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? Hi what version do you use ? __________________ CU 2Of3

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-=sidewinder=- New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hamburg (Germany) Posts: 18	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? I don't know if the PX-716 can make copies of securom protectet discs - but the new PX-755 can! I made a copy of an securom v7 protectet game, and it works just fine Regards __________________ PX-755 - Plexwriter W1210A - Pioneer DVD-120S

15-01-2006	#9 (permalink)
DixieNormous New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 25	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? Hey Sidewinder Thanks for that info.....did you use any emulation? Have you tested your copy of the Securom v 7 game in another PC which doesn't have Blindwrite installed? Incidentally, what game did you copy? And what version of Blindwrite did you use? Given that you were able to make a copy, how did you do the .bwa file? Did you use the BWA builder, or did you use the Alcohol technique and convert to .bwa file? Thanks!

16-01-2006	#10 (permalink)
Cyker CD Freaks Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 239	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? Apparently, there was a 'bug' (Feature! ) in the Premium which let a program reset the GigaRec settings on the fly during a burn - This is what enabled BlindWrite to tweak the track lengths etc. In the 716, this 'bug' as sadly fixed which is that, while the 716 can do GigaRec, it can't do track-length alterations because the GigaRec settings is fixed from the start of the burn to the end. The 716 can still use the Twin Peaks method to successfully copy most things 'tho.

16-01-2006	#11 (permalink)
-=sidewinder=- New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hamburg (Germany) Posts: 18	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? I usedthis guide to made a backup of "Vietcong 2". Software was Blindwrite 5.2.16 and Alcohol 1.9.5. I did not test it on other computers, but I think it is a 1:1 copy Regards __________________ PX-755 - Plexwriter W1210A - Pioneer DVD-120S

17-01-2006	#13 (permalink)
DixieNormous New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 25	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? Hey Sidewinder I am looking for internet resellers for the PX-755... any suggestions? Thanks Dixie

17-01-2006	#14 (permalink)
alexnoe CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 4,613	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? www.alternate.de <= It has been there for a month already __________________ Asus P4C800E-Deluxe, Win XP, P4/2800 HT, 2048 MB RAM, 600 GB HDD, Plextor PX712/716/755/Premium, LG 4120B, Pioneer A08, Pioneer A09, NEC ND-3540A/4550A ------------------------------------------------ If at first you don't succeed, redefine success! How a troll wants to force users of Linux to buy Windows just to make use of Plextor DVD writer unique functions ------------------------------------------------ PxScan/PxView (compatible to Premium, PX-712, PX-714, PX-716), now with built-in picture file output Bitsetting via Autostart My Blog about DADVSI (new french copyright)

17-01-2006	#15 (permalink)
-=sidewinder=- New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hamburg (Germany) Posts: 18	Re: Plextor PX-716A-Can it make Securom copies like PX Premium CDRW? I bought mine at www.e-bug.de for 95 € they delivered 24 h after release of the PX-755 in Europe. __________________ PX-755 - Plexwriter W1210A - Pioneer DVD-120S

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