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Plextor Burner Discuss, Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2 at CD and DVD Burners forum; Hello I'd like to know the "main" advantages of the Plextor Premium 2 in compare with the "old" version? I know the new version supports the "PlexEraser" stuff for CDs, but is the burn quality for CDs compareable? Is the Premium 2 worth the much money? Any suggestions? th_mi


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Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

Hello

I'd like to know the "main" advantages of the Plextor Premium 2 in compare with the "old" version? I know the new version supports the "PlexEraser" stuff for CDs, but is the burn quality for CDs compareable?

Is the Premium 2 worth the much money?

Any suggestions?

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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

Premium 2 Support AUDIO MASTER QUALITY RECORDING
help you easy to understand
http://www.yamahamultimedia.com/yec/tech/aam_01.asp#
P.S Very hard to get some country / Very high price
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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

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Premium 2 Support AUDIO MASTER QUALITY RECORDING
help you easy to understand
http://www.yamahamultimedia.com/yec/tech/aam_01.asp#
P.S Very hard to get some country / Very high price
Is the Yamaha CRW-F1 as good as Premium? CRW-F1 was very high price too.
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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

Interesting i have both and just got them today. Yes very expensive.
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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

I don't know very much about them. Here's an attempt to burn a TY @52X

What do you think?

I don't mean to steal your thread but i thought you might be interested

Pay no attention to the CPU usage as i'm folding
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I got two premium 2 today total price $303
I spent more than $1000 June and July for buying only ODD
( 4 plextor product )
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I got two premium 2 today total price $303
I spent more than $1000 June and July for buying only ODD
( 4 plextor product )
yeah you are the one that twisted my arm You have them fitted yet? I just have the one in this pc at the moment. Might put both in to do some testing
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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

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I don't know very much about them. Here's an attempt to burn a TY @52X

What do you think?

I don't mean to steal your thread but i thought you might be interested

Pay no attention to the CPU usage as i'm folding
Better than my first P2
oops it is not premium2
I will get premium CD writer soon as I can
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Is the Yamaha CRW-F1 as good as Premium? CRW-F1 was very high price too.
I try to buy Yamaha CD writer last year
Price was $600 internal new retail box....
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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

And here is an attempt @52X with the Premium 2.

These are first burns with them. Might as well see how they do at max with decent media.

Looks like the original Premium does the best so far.

Anyone have newer firmware than i have showing these scans?

No folding running for this burn.
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I try to buy Yamaha CD writer last year
Price was $600 internal new retail box....
You must be kidding. I bought mine (new retail) in 2003 for $160.
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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

@rolling56, I think the Premium line focuses on audio burning. Good high speed data burning is not selling point.
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@rolling56, I think the Premium line focuses on audio burning. Good high speed data burning is not selling point.
I will burn a few audio discs with them also. I have only just begun

@th_mi do you want me to start a different thread? Let me know

Anyone have an answer to my firmware question?
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Is the Yamaha CRW-F1 as good as Premium? CRW-F1 was very high price too.
I only used it for burning audio CDs @ very slow speed w/ AMQR... it was wasted tech on me, actually, and it's sitting somewhere in my closet. I think my original Plexwriter Premium is a better all-around drive especially at higher speeds. Funny, but I only pull the Premium out on special occasions... an LTR-52327S does most of my day-to-day CD burning.

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I bought mine [CRW-F1] (new retail) in 2003 for $160.
I think I paid just over $180 in 2003.

I'm actually dying to see some more Prem2 scans, just to tempt myself into buying what's probably the last of the great Plextor drives.
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A little bit off topic. What is the ebay value for a used crw-f1, now?
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You must be kidding. I bought mine (new retail) in 2003 for $160.
I didn't buy because it was $600 each ( with shipping charge )
because I didn't open 3 760A drive
3 years later least $300 more
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I will burn a few audio discs with them also. I have only just begun

@th_mi do you want me to start a different thread? Let me know

Anyone have an answer to my firmware question?
It has not been published. You'll have to contact Plextor support
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=218247
but someone use 1.01 firmware
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It has not been published. You'll have to contact Plextor support
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=218247
Do you have it?
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Do you have it?
No I didn't contact Plextor
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I didn't buy because it was $600 each ( with shipping charge )
because I didn't open 3 760A drive
3 years later least $300 more
3 years 200% net returns - a pretty good investment.
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3 years 200% net returns - a pretty good investment.
It is my guess
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I'm actually dying to see some more Prem2 scans, just to tempt myself into buying what's probably the last of the great Plextor drives.
you can see some scans here:
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Re: Difference between Plextor Premium and Premium 2

Just finished a 16X burn but not a full disc. Seems the quality is about the same burning fast or slow with TY CD-R's with the Premium so far. I don't like the high jitter though.

@th_mi one more time............is it ok to post my results in your thread or do you want me to start my own. Either way it makes no difference to me.

I'll be burning some more CD's this weekend with both Premiums.
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Here's a small burn (sorry that's all i wanted on the disc) on Premium II @16X.

I'm just posting as i burn a few things for whomever cares to see

I don't think it matters but the Premium is master and Premium II is slave on the same channel.
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Good Burn
4X burn speed with AUDIO MASTER QUALITY RECORDING On ( AMQR )
this is more fun
and I recommend Maxell Audio CD-R SAMS and Wal mart ( MIJ TY )
much better result I got before very good jitter ( Maxell CD-R Pro TY Don't )
Also I'm start testing my P2 this week Sunday
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