is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov - Club CDFreaks

garydavisjackie@y · 12-06-2007

I was comparing the size of file and quality - and i noticed that mov only updates images when something is different or has moved for instance a mouse (semi-still image wise), and when i compare the mov to dvd the size difference is horrendous; i mean compare 24mb for mov to 800mb for dvd. the thing i hate is dvd renders each frame at 30 a second, and thats just over kill.

*Kerry56* · 12-06-2007

If you have a dvd player that can play divx, you could convert to an .avi file using the divx or xvid codec. The resulting files would be considerably smaller than what you see in mpeg2. Looking at videohelp.com, you get this list of video conversion tools that can produce avi from mov. (Check to make sure the one you use can utilize the divx or xvid codec)

Once in an avi container, you can burn the videos to disk as data files. A divx compatible dvd player will show the different files on the disk and allow you to pick which one to play.

If you don't have a divx compatible player, you're stuck with mpeg. And the standards for dvd format are intentionally stringent.

**imkidd57** · 12-06-2007

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Originally Posted by garydavisjackie@y

I was comparing the size of file and quality - and i noticed that mov only updates images when something is different or has moved for instance a mouse (semi-still image wise)

All basic lossy video compression techniques do this, whether MPEG1, MPEG2, or MPEG4

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Originally Posted by garydavisjackie@y

when i compare the mov to dvd the size difference is horrendous;

Yes but generally speaking the quality is superior, which is what's needed for viewing on larger screens.

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Originally Posted by garydavisjackie@y

i mean compare 24mb for mov to 800mb for dvd. the thing i hate is dvd renders each frame at 30 a second, and thats just over kill.

NTSC framerate is ~30 fps, and that of PAL; 25 fps. Rendering means something quite different. Not sure what you mean by "overkill" though. It's necessary for realistic smooth motion in fast moving scenes.

garydavisjackie@y · 13-06-2007

what i mean is, im recording semi-still images(go to Lynda.com to see what i mean), the only thing really moving would be the mouse - so i would need like 5 frames per second; o i know what rendering means , it was just for a lack of a better word.

one more thing im ntsc

**imkidd57** · 13-06-2007

Yes, I'm sorry but it's not clear what you're trying to do, and the website that you gave us is pretty large.

What is the aim of recoding these semi-still images? Please explain further and we may be able to help..

garydavisjackie@y · 13-06-2007

ok here

**imkidd57** · 13-06-2007

Hmmm.. perhaps I should say again that you still haven't told us in your own words what you are trying to do.

Simply providing a link to some payware site is not going to make the members of CD Freaks more likely to help you.

garydavisjackie@y · 14-06-2007

never mind

*debro* · 14-06-2007

Dude!

Just drop your video framerate to 5FPS

That'll reduce you video bitrate by about ... 85% for NTSC and 80% for PAL

You can also reduce your resolution, if detail is not required.

Better still, just use divx, and reduce the bitrate and adjust the framerate & etc.

Aww ... nervermind

*_chef_* · 14-06-2007

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is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov

No way.

*debro* · 14-06-2007

No. You will have to convert it to DVD.

garydavisjackie@y · 14-06-2007

nero wont let me drop the frame; so what program will let me

*Mr. Belvedere* · 14-06-2007

TMPGEnc or VirtualDUBMod. I wish you all the luck into transcoding a Apple Quicktime .MOV file successfully into a very high quality MPEG-II.

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garydavisjackie@y New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13	is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I was comparing the size of file and quality - and i noticed that mov only updates images when something is different or has moved for instance a mouse (semi-still image wise), and when i compare the mov to dvd the size difference is horrendous; i mean compare 24mb for mov to 800mb for dvd. the thing i hate is dvd renders each frame at 30 a second, and thats just over kill.

12-06-2007	#2 (permalink)
Kerry56 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,225	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov If you have a dvd player that can play divx, you could convert to an .avi file using the divx or xvid codec. The resulting files would be considerably smaller than what you see in mpeg2. Looking at videohelp.com, you get this list of video conversion tools that can produce avi from mov. (Check to make sure the one you use can utilize the divx or xvid codec) Once in an avi container, you can burn the videos to disk as data files. A divx compatible dvd player will show the different files on the disk and allow you to pick which one to play. If you don't have a divx compatible player, you're stuck with mpeg. And the standards for dvd format are intentionally stringent.

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garydavisjackie@y New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov what i mean is, im recording semi-still images(go to Lynda.com to see what i mean), the only thing really moving would be the mouse - so i would need like 5 frames per second; o i know what rendering means , it was just for a lack of a better word. one more thing im ntsc

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imkidd57 Senior Moderator & Editor Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Fajara Posts: 7,337	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov Yes, I'm sorry but it's not clear what you're trying to do, and the website that you gave us is pretty large. What is the aim of recoding these semi-still images? Please explain further and we may be able to help.. Last edited by imkidd57; 13-06-2007 at 20:03.

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garydavisjackie@y New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov ok here

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imkidd57 Senior Moderator & Editor Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Fajara Posts: 7,337	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov Hmmm.. perhaps I should say again that you still haven't told us in your own words what you are trying to do. Simply providing a link to some payware site is not going to make the members of CD Freaks more likely to help you.

14-06-2007	#8 (permalink)
garydavisjackie@y New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov never mind

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debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The c@ke mixer Posts: 9,704	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov Dude! Just drop your video framerate to 5FPS That'll reduce you video bitrate by about ... 85% for NTSC and 80% for PAL You can also reduce your resolution, if detail is not required. Better still, just use divx, and reduce the bitrate and adjust the framerate & etc. Aww ... nervermind __________________ CDFreaks - Overwhelmed by Ignorance since 2005! We lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war! Click Here to sign up to the resistance movement! Viva La Resistance! Admitting that you've illegally downloaded movies/songs and need help to process/burn is comparable to robbing a bank, and walking into the bank the next day holding the bags of money to deposit them into your account. Don't be surprised if people laugh at you when you make the headlines.

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debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The c@ke mixer Posts: 9,704	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov No. You will have to convert it to DVD. __________________ CDFreaks - Overwhelmed by Ignorance since 2005! We lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war! Click Here to sign up to the resistance movement! Viva La Resistance! Admitting that you've illegally downloaded movies/songs and need help to process/burn is comparable to robbing a bank, and walking into the bank the next day holding the bags of money to deposit them into your account. Don't be surprised if people laugh at you when you make the headlines.

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garydavisjackie@y New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov nero wont let me drop the frame; so what program will let me

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Mr. Belvedere CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cthulhu Ninja Zombie Posts: 14,666	Re: is there a way to get a dvd player to read .mov TMPGEnc or VirtualDUBMod. I wish you all the luck into transcoding a Apple Quicktime .MOV file successfully into a very high quality MPEG-II. __________________ I might be evil. Want to make dvd movie backups? Take the 5-step or the 2-step process. Fun, fast and free!

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