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| is there an easy and quick way to convert ntsc to pal? hiya was wondering if any of you guys can suggest an quick an easy way of converting ntsc to pal. As some movies that a mate has lent me are in black and white on my Ps2 but colour on the Pc and i`m 99 percent sure it to do with ntsc format. My Ps2 is uk Pal. |
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| I assume he lent you his originals so you could watch them on your own TV. And I am sure it can be converted, but the converted backup then belongs to your mate and he cannot leave it with you and take the originals back home, that would be against the license agreement. Based on the aforementioned, I assume you mean you would like to help out your friend in making a converted backup. Wish I could help out, but perhaps someone can (don't know if there are any previous topics in this forum on converting files in this respect...)
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| A copy of a post made by HeeHawBoz on the afterdawn.com forums: only ever gets more complicated if doing NTSC to PAL. We take the NTSC original rips, load them into DVD2AVI and set the forced film flag before saving the project file (that marks the footage as 23.976 fps FILM -which it is on legit NTSC DVD movies- and strips away all the 3:2 pull down info stops TMPEG treating it as 30fps footage). If you then set 'do not rate convert' in tmpegs advanced dialog you then get 1 second and a frame of FILM footage turned into one second (25 frames) of PAL so theres no padding frames added by the encoder during the NTSC->PAL conversion that can make things jerky when playing back (most obvious in panning shots as the repeated frame to make 24 frames of film become 25 frames of PAL really shows up then if you let the encoder do the conversion with the rate converted) For straight same standard conversion you'd then be done, for those NTSC ->Pal conversions using above method you got a thankless soundforge task still to go - the new PAL movie will be 4pcnt shorter run time than the original NTSC and cinema release (as per legit PAL releases), but the sound file will be the original length. Load the sound into soundforge and use time compress option to set the time of the original runtime down to that of the new PAL runtime (take the number of frames TMPEG encoded and divide by 25 to get time in seconds and points of a second convert that into hours mins and points of a second). Killer is soundforge just isnt all that accurate (over the course of a 2hr movie it'll be 600 milliseconds out which means more and more audio drift as you get to the end of the movie) Nearly scuppered us doing PAL conversions till I came up with a solution... divide the length of the movie into 3 min chunks eg 30 chunks for 90 min movie then divide the drift by that number (400ms drift over 1hr 30 = 13 milliseconds per 3 min chunk) set a 1 second selection at 3mins into the wav file then use time compress expand to expand that to 1.013 seconds repeat at 6 mins stage etc and eventually after 30 of them the audio will match the length of the movie exactly (it'll go out of sync by 13 ms each 3 mins but thats negligable deflection and the next expand along will bring it back on sync again and so on as it goes through the movie) we tried originally with 10minute chunks but those were too crude (especially in shallow hal) on Pc the 10 min chunks work but on some VCD players they're just too long and the sync issue rears its head again Still at expiremental stage but i reckon should work fine with 3 min chunks.
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