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Old 25-09-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

I am having the same problem. I am editing the DVD-R from my video camera. I imported the video from the DVD using Nero & now they are on my hard drive as VOB files. It divided the files into multiple segments which was great for editing, but now when I play it back there is a flash of a black screen between each segment. It doesn't matter how I view it they are there. Looks almost like a camera flash.

None-the-less I have been searching high and low for a way to smooth the transitions out, but nothing as of yet.

Thanks for any help offered!
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Re: Nero Vision 4 Dvd Chapters

This is not quite the same, as you are joining video segments rather than been inserting chapters. It's also considered impolite to hijack other threads, even if you think it's the same problem.

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OK - please tell us what camera model you have, and which editing software you are using for editing and joining these segments.
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Re: Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

I don't know the camera model, a parent from my son's football team gives me a DVD at the end of the games. Nero Vision 4. thnx
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Re: Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

As you have already got segmented video files, you can use Avidemux (freeware):

http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/download.html

Join the segments together using the 'Append' function from the 'File' menu. Then make sure the 'Format' box on the left-hand side of the window is set to "MPEG-PS", and the 'Audio' and 'Video' boxes above are set to "Copy" (see below). Then press 'Save' to output the joined product.

For the future, you could always rip the DVD content using DVD Decrypter in IFO mode with 'File splitting' set to "None"; this would make the above joining process unnecessary.
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Re: Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

Sounds like a plan - will I still be able to edit the video without the flashes coming back when I cut parts out? I only want to keep the best plays of 10 games for a highlight DVD for the kids.

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Re: Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

Cool looking program listed above there.

Anyway, you could open the thing in Ulead DVD MovieFactory 5 after the fact and do a Multi-Trim to cut out the flashes, I suppose. Works on VOB's with no conversion needed.
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Re: Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

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You have not a problem there, just a fact of life.
When you cut the video files, you are separating frames.
When you join the files you put the last frame of one file just before the first one of the other.
apart from the frame you're getting for each one (it can make a dif), when you play there is a jump at that connection point and you see the "flash".
To avoid that, video editor software uses "transitions", that can produce one image diasapearing and the other coming up, other more exotic transitions or just the normal "fade" that does the same as yours but with no flashes (also called fade to black).
Maybe the software suggested above can do it. Moviefactory may do, because it uses some basic video editing features.
But for a more lean process you'd better use a video editor.
This has nothing to do with chapters, because chapters are marks used by the DVD authoring software to move you to the choosen points of a given video file and here you seem to be still in the process of build this file not authoring the DVD.
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Re: Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

True, but trimming or inserting a transition, such as a fade, is not strictly necessary to cure this problem. The 'flashes' as such do not exist in the video, but are the product of the decoder not knowing what to do at a certain point because it was expecting something different.

What's needed is for the editing program to re-establish the relationship between the I-, B, and P-frames of the MPEG video, across the join of the VOB data. It can be done with a minimum of individual frame re-encoding and getting the GOP back to a 15 frame span. If this is done then the decoder will just move straight across where the join was, with no visible glitch or flash.

Avidemux can do that, as can DVDMF5.
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You're right and maybe I didn't make it clear when I said the frames could make a dif.
Just referred the video editor because acrowder pointed "It divided the files into multiple segments which was great for editing" and I assumed his interest was to edit the files not just to make the joins.
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Re: Imported video camera segments: how to make smooth transitions?

I am in the middle of trying the DVD Decrypter now.

The flashes show up before I even try to edit the video. As soon as I put it on the PC they are there. Sometime the segments are right in the middle of a play. So you might see the running back going down the field, suddenly it kind of "freeze frames" and flashes black then it continues as usual until the next segment. If it didn't happen right in the middle of a scene the transitions would be a very easy fix.

Hopefully this works for me. I am only on my first DVD & I have oh, about 20+ hours of football left to edit.

Thanks so much for your help and I will let you know if it works.
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