Dual Layer Discs, burning fails - Club CDFreaks

pickthenimp · 03-05-2006

Windows XP Home
Burner: NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW
DVD MEDIA: 25pk DRD+85-RDUSA-CB25 (Ridata)
Software: Nero 7 Ultra

Hello, I recently purchased this drive and media to be able to backup 7+ gigs of information. I have no trouble with regualr DVD-R burnings, but the dual layer sessions fail everytime. Around 40% of the way through, it just says burn process failed. Did I get a bad batch of dvds? Thanks for any help!

**geno888** · 03-05-2006

Hi and welcome to the forum

One of the most probable causes of your problem is the media: ridata are low quality media.

*rapid fire* · 03-05-2006

Agree here with geno.
The only DL media which is still fine is Verbatim.

pickthenimp · 03-05-2006

well thats $50 down the drain! so there is no help. By the way thanks for the very fast response...great place here

**geno888** · 03-05-2006

You're welcome

I'm sorry to give you so bad news

You can try installing latest firmware to see if this improve burnings, or with different firmwares to find the best one.

If you can, try to see if a friend have a burner able to burn these discs with decent quality, but don't relate too much on these media because their durability in time can be very low. At least you can use these discs for a while instead of throwing them off.

pickthenimp · 03-05-2006

So you think that I wouldnt have any trouble with these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817131163

(I hope I am allowed to post these type of links in here)

...and would I need to update my firmware for these?

**geno888** · 03-05-2006

Yes, these links are allowed

These are 8x media. Sorry but I'm not very expert in NEC burners. Do your nec is a 8x capable burner on dual layer media? If not, I suggest you to buy 2x DL media, because burning a 8x media @2x can give you bad results even with a high quality media.

Moreover, many users here in the forum burned the verbatim 2x DL media also @higher speeds with great results, so with the 2x media you do a safe buy.

pickthenimp · 03-05-2006

Okay, thanks a lot for your help geno, one last final question, is it okay to go from firmware to firmware so I can test my crappy ridata?

**geno888** · 03-05-2006

You're welcome

With benq burners you can go with any firmware you want; with liteon you can flash only with a newer fw; to flash with a previous one you need some tricks. With nec drives, I'm not able to answer

Sorry

*rapid fire* · 03-05-2006

With Nec shouldn't be a problem too!

*_chef_* · 04-05-2006

It's still cheap media.......and so are the Quality results.

**geno888** · 04-05-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by _chef_

It's still cheap media.......and so are the Quality results.

Could be a way to do some practice with DL burnings, or to test if layer break is set correctly. Temporary results to gain experience.

*debro* · 04-05-2006

Cheap DL media is not *that* much cheaper than decent media.

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pickthenimp New on Forum Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4	Dual Layer Discs, burning fails <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Windows XP Home Burner: NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW DVD MEDIA: 25pk DRD+85-RDUSA-CB25 (Ridata) Software: Nero 7 Ultra Hello, I recently purchased this drive and media to be able to backup 7+ gigs of information. I have no trouble with regualr DVD-R burnings, but the dual layer sessions fail everytime. Around 40% of the way through, it just says burn process failed. Did I get a bad batch of dvds? Thanks for any help!

03-05-2006	#2 (permalink)
geno888 Moderator, Editor & CD Freaks Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 17,732	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails Hi and welcome to the forum One of the most probable causes of your problem is the media: ridata are low quality media.

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rapid fire CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,118	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails Agree here with geno. The only DL media which is still fine is Verbatim. __________________ Plextor 716A 3x Plextor 712A Plextor 760A BenQ 1620pro BenQ 1640, 1650, 1655 LG GSA 4163 B LiteON 832s NEC 1300A, 4550A

03-05-2006	#4 (permalink)
pickthenimp New on Forum Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails well thats $50 down the drain! so there is no help. By the way thanks for the very fast response...great place here

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geno888 Moderator, Editor & CD Freaks Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 17,732	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails You're welcome I'm sorry to give you so bad news You can try installing latest firmware to see if this improve burnings, or with different firmwares to find the best one. If you can, try to see if a friend have a burner able to burn these discs with decent quality, but don't relate too much on these media because their durability in time can be very low. At least you can use these discs for a while instead of throwing them off.

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03-05-2006	#6 (permalink)
pickthenimp New on Forum Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails So you think that I wouldnt have any trouble with these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817131163 (I hope I am allowed to post these type of links in here) ...and would I need to update my firmware for these?

03-05-2006	#7 (permalink)
geno888 Moderator, Editor & CD Freaks Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 17,732	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails Yes, these links are allowed These are 8x media. Sorry but I'm not very expert in NEC burners. Do your nec is a 8x capable burner on dual layer media? If not, I suggest you to buy 2x DL media, because burning a 8x media @2x can give you bad results even with a high quality media. Moreover, many users here in the forum burned the verbatim 2x DL media also @higher speeds with great results, so with the 2x media you do a safe buy.

03-05-2006	#8 (permalink)
pickthenimp New on Forum Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails Okay, thanks a lot for your help geno, one last final question, is it okay to go from firmware to firmware so I can test my crappy ridata?

03-05-2006	#9 (permalink)
geno888 Moderator, Editor & CD Freaks Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 17,732	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails You're welcome With benq burners you can go with any firmware you want; with liteon you can flash only with a newer fw; to flash with a previous one you need some tricks. With nec drives, I'm not able to answer Sorry

03-05-2006	#10 (permalink)
rapid fire CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,118	Re: Dual Layer Discs, burning fails With Nec shouldn't be a problem too! __________________ Plextor 716A 3x Plextor 712A Plextor 760A BenQ 1620pro BenQ 1640, 1650, 1655 LG GSA 4163 B LiteON 832s NEC 1300A, 4550A

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