tropics Drive Killing MCC003's - Club CDFreaks

*Bob* · 22-06-2008

These are burns and scans from a crappy batch i received from member tropic.

All of these are PAH705KH21093828 BZ ZD3606-DVR-X47B Silver shiny

tropic says they are CMC's but i have no original packaging.

First up are three 8x tests with the drives info in Nero CD-DVD Speed.

Then three 12x tests with drives info in Nero CD-DVD Speed

This is for tropic and mine reference mainly.

*Bob* · 22-06-2008

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*Bob* · 22-06-2008

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*Bob* · 22-06-2008

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*Bob* · 22-06-2008

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*Bob* · 22-06-2008

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*Bob* · 22-06-2008

I might burn a few more with some different drives.......

**MegaDETH** · 22-06-2008

Interesting scans Bob, did you and tropic have a conversation in the forum about these discs somewhere you point me to? I obviously missed it

I would be interested to read about it.

Thanks

*cd pirate* · 22-06-2008

Can I ask what this is about?

From what I can see, it looks like you have some conflicting scans VS TRT results. High speed scans will even things up.

*Bob* · 22-06-2008

After the last burn posted here and scan with one of my BenQ 1655's it is dead now. It opens and closes but will not recognize a blank or burned disc. Coincidence?

*Bob* · 22-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd pirate

Can I ask what this is about?

From what I can see, it looks like you have some conflicting scans VS TRT results. High speed scans will even things up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaDETH

Interesting scans Bob, did you and tropic have a conversation in the forum about these discs somewhere you point me to? I obviously missed it

I would be interested to read about it.

Thanks

MegaDETH it was discussed in chat here. Long story short......tropic could not get these to burn worth a crap and offered to send them to me. He has a dead drive also from his testing..........

*Bob* · 22-06-2008

After sleeping and thinking about this extraordinary phenomenon i've decided not to try anymore of these discs. I'm deffenantly not going to put anymore of them in my drives.

Albert seems to be interested in being the next victim

**Arachne** · 22-06-2008

I have quite good luck with discs. If I didn't live in the UK, I'd quite like to be a "victim" too

*Bob* · 22-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arachne

I have quite good luck with discs. If I didn't live in the UK, I'd quite like to be a "victim" too

It's not the burning of these blanks Lin.........it's the result of a dead drive afterwards

and yeah if you were closer i'd send you a few also with a note i'm not responsible for damaged drives of course lol

Edit:
hmmmm I thought this thread title described this perfectly

**Arachne** · 22-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

It's not the burning of these blanks Lin.........it's the result of a dead drive afterwards

and yeah if you were closer i'd send you a few also with a note i'm not responsible for damaged drives of course lol

Edit:
hmmmm I thought this thread title described this perfectly

I know

...and I've got a spare Sammy sitting in the wings

And actually, the thread title could be taken that tropic's drive is killing MCC003 also

*Bob* · 22-06-2008

Well at any rate i told him i would post my results/findings. I would have rather not have lost one of my BenQ's to this and i almost didn't use it for scanning........

I found out later when i stated testing the FTI samples i have here and went to use it for scanning one of them and it wouldn't recognize the burned FTI but my other drives did. So put a different disc in it and still no go

**Arachne** · 22-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

I found out later when i stated testing the FTI samples i have here and went to use it for scanning one of them and it wouldn't recognize the burned FTI but my other drives did. So put a different disc in it and still no go

negritude · 23-06-2008

Bob, cross-flash the drive to a 1650, and then back again to a 1655. See if that fixes the problem.

Have you cold-booted your computer since the problem arose (shut down, wait one-minute, then power-on)? If not, do that.

If the BenQ is in an enclosure, power the enclosure off or unplug it, wait one minute, then power it on again.

*Bob* · 23-06-2008

No i didn't cross flash it but yes my rig was off for 10+ hours, booted it up and i checked it again and still no go.

I took it out and put my other 1655 in. I'll mess with it some other day. Thanks

8 or 9 of these discs left and they are going to another member to play with.

I've read stories here about discs killing drives and thought yeah right but now......I hope it's just a coincidence.

*Albert* · 23-06-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

8 or 9 of these discs left and they are going to another member to play with.

I've read stories here about discs killing drives and thought yeah right but now......I hope it's just a coincidence.

You and me both, brother.

*Albert* · 28-06-2008

Writer: LiteOn DH-20A4P
Firmware: BenQ DW2000 9B3E, ESB 6

Scanner and TRT drive: LiteOn DH-20A1P
Firmware: KL0N

Write speed: 8x
Write options [QSuite]: SB On/On; OS=off; WOPC=on

TE/FE test on both drives, of the last 30% of the disc, run at 8x.

*Albert* · 28-06-2008

Writer: LiteOn DH-20A4P
Firmware: BenQ DW2000 9B3E, ESB 6

Scanner and TRT drive: LiteOn DH-20A1P
Firmware: KL0N

Write speed: 16x
Write options [QSuite]: SB On/On; OS=on; WOPC=on

Scan speed: 4x, with 1x for jitter [as always for me]

Partial + full scan of this second burn. [If you haven't figured it out, I was the lucky one to get the drive-killing media.

]

22-06-2008	#7 (permalink)
Bob I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 16,071	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's I might burn a few more with some different drives....... __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My New Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"

22-06-2008	#8 (permalink)
MegaDETH CD Freaks Senior Reviewer & Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Watertown Posts: 3,633	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's Interesting scans Bob, did you and tropic have a conversation in the forum about these discs somewhere you point me to? I obviously missed it I would be interested to read about it. Thanks

22-06-2008	#9 (permalink)
cd pirate CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,057	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's Can I ask what this is about? From what I can see, it looks like you have some conflicting scans VS TRT results. High speed scans will even things up. __________________ Best DVD media: Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R Ritek G05 media = My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

22-06-2008	#10 (permalink)
Bob I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 16,071	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's After the last burn posted here and scan with one of my BenQ 1655's it is dead now. It opens and closes but will not recognize a blank or burned disc. Coincidence? __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My New Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"

22-06-2008	#12 (permalink)
Bob I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 16,071	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's After sleeping and thinking about this extraordinary phenomenon i've decided not to try anymore of these discs. I'm deffenantly not going to put anymore of them in my drives. Albert seems to be interested in being the next victim __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My New Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"

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22-06-2008	#13 (permalink)
Arachne Senior Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Keeping my media stash safe. Posts: 25,377	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's I have quite good luck with discs. If I didn't live in the UK, I'd quite like to be a "victim" too __________________ Current drives: Samsung SH-S203N (SB02 patched) + Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here

22-06-2008	#16 (permalink)
Bob I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 16,071	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's Well at any rate i told him i would post my results/findings. I would have rather not have lost one of my BenQ's to this and i almost didn't use it for scanning........ I found out later when i stated testing the FTI samples i have here and went to use it for scanning one of them and it wouldn't recognize the burned FTI but my other drives did. So put a different disc in it and still no go __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My New Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"

23-06-2008	#18 (permalink)
negritude CD Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,222	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's Bob, cross-flash the drive to a 1650, and then back again to a 1655. See if that fixes the problem. Have you cold-booted your computer since the problem arose (shut down, wait one-minute, then power-on)? If not, do that. If the BenQ is in an enclosure, power the enclosure off or unplug it, wait one minute, then power it on again.

23-06-2008	#19 (permalink)
Bob I donated to the Tsunami fund and all I got was this lousy title Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 16,071	Re: tropics Drive Killing MCC003's No i didn't cross flash it but yes my rig was off for 10+ hours, booted it up and i checked it again and still no go. I took it out and put my other 1655 in. I'll mess with it some other day. Thanks 8 or 9 of these discs left and they are going to another member to play with. I've read stories here about discs killing drives and thought yeah right but now......I hope it's just a coincidence. __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My New Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"