Some Newbie Quality Questions. - Club CDFreaks

Yuzo · 10-02-2007

I have had some backed up discs through and have a few queries:

1.
Why do some discs have random different shades on the bottom of the disc? i did a quality test and the graph showed perfect quality.. it also plays fine, will this be a quality problem with the disc in the future ?

2.
When i play some discs on my player, some take ages to load, and makes quite alot of noise, whilst others load instantly .... all are on the same media, and get the same good results on the Nero quality graph.

Thanks for any help.

Yuzo · 10-02-2007

Sorry, just noticed there is a newbie section

kg_evilboy · 10-02-2007

Which media do you use?

Yuzo · 10-02-2007

it has been on media that a friend has sent me, it is on Ritek G05 burnt at 4x/8x

*Jedi Master Yoda* · 10-02-2007

The different shades are normally due to the drive shifting to a different speed. Which disc's gave you playback problems ?? the ones burnt at x8 or x4.

Yuzo · 10-02-2007

i am not having problems with the shades on the disc, i was just curious if these will cause any problems in the future. I have had a look around the forums and it seems nobody actually has problems when playing discs with different shades, it justs looks worse than it is.

the media i am mostly talking about is 4x (finishes the burn at 8x).

Yuzo · 10-02-2007

anybody know anything about this:

2.
When i play some discs on my player, some take ages to load, and makes alot of noise, whilst others load instantly .... all are on the same media, and get the same good results on the Nero quality graph.

kg_evilboy · 10-02-2007

Stay away from RITEK G05. It's one of the worst disc types money can buy, it can degrade really fast and cause lots of trouble.
Try some Taiyo Yuden, Maxell (Made in Japan only) or Verbatim.

*TL0* · 10-02-2007

Ritek G05 is quite interesting when it comes to potential longevity issues

as it is so variable in this respect. I have a small sample of them burned in the last year where some have degraded beyond the point of playability within weeks while others are still fine.

Safer to avoid them if you don't wish for such possible headaches.

Yuzo · 10-02-2007

thanks fo your input guys, i was about to buy a bunch of them aswell.

i have now updated to these TYG02:

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=164

good choice ?

kg_evilboy · 10-02-2007

Much better than RITEK G05.

But the compatibility of TYG02 is questionable.
I would recommend YUDEN000 T02 8x DVD+R instead.

makabre · 10-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuzo

anybody know anything about this:

2.
When i play some discs on my player, some take ages to load, and makes alot of noise, whilst others load instantly .... all are on the same media, and get the same good results on the Nero quality graph.

I have about twenty SONY DVD+R 8X Taiyo Yuden type that my player has
trouble loading in. It spins the discs up several types,makes some weird noises
but once the disc is up and running it is fine.On PC,it's okay so I figured
the lead-in area is not exactly compatible with my admittedly old DVDplayer.
All of these discs were sent to me by a guy,I don't know what kind of burner
he used.

>:|sh4d0w|:< · 10-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg_evilboy

Much better than RITEK G05.

But the compatibility of TYG02 is questionable.
I would recommend YUDEN000 T02 8x DVD+R instead.

Same here, the T02 is only about £1 for 100 at SVP.

kg_evilboy · 10-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by >:|sh4d0w|:<

Same here, the T02 is only about £1 for 100 at SVP.

What the ....?

**DrageMester** · 10-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by >:|sh4d0w|:<

Same here, the T02 is only about £1 for 100 at SVP.

I Wish!

100pc Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD+R Printable (YUDEN000 T02) at SVP is £33.89.

**Arachne** · 11-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by >:|sh4d0w|:<

Same here, the T02 is only about £1 for 100 at SVP.

LOL wow at that price I gotta get me some of those

minaelromany · 11-02-2007

C'mon guys , he meant £1 more

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=171

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=164

kg_evilboy · 11-02-2007

No! It's £0.91!

I know I'm annoying

**Arachne** · 11-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by minaelromany

C'mon guys , he meant £1 more

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=171

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=164

I know, but you have to admit it was funny

*tehGrue* · 12-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuzo

anybody know anything about this:

2.
When i play some discs on my player, some take ages to load, and makes alot of noise, whilst others load instantly .... all are on the same media, and get the same good results on the Nero quality graph.

Did you author the discs yourself? Sometimes if you obtained these through some other means, previews and studio logos before the menu could have been ripped out, but then blank redirects were left in, rather than changing the disc authoring to skip them altogether, with a program like PgcEdit. So your DVD player sees the disc, tries to start playing a studio logo, sees a "skip to next video" marker, looks for the next video, tries to start playing a preview, sees that it's missing and theres just a command to skip to the next video... If a disc has a few previews before it that were ripped out, this can take a lot of seeking by your DVD player!

*cd pirate* · 13-02-2007

Nope they are ritek G05, it's a definite crappy media problem in this case. I have had over 100 of them screw up over time.

Verbatim is also a good choice along with TY, just in case you were not aware. If verbatim is cheaper, I would hit that up first

10-02-2007	#1 (permalink)
Yuzo CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33	Some Newbie Quality Questions. <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I have had some backed up discs through and have a few queries: 1. Why do some discs have random different shades on the bottom of the disc? i did a quality test and the graph showed perfect quality.. it also plays fine, will this be a quality problem with the disc in the future ? 2. When i play some discs on my player, some take ages to load, and makes quite alot of noise, whilst others load instantly .... all are on the same media, and get the same good results on the Nero quality graph. Thanks for any help.

10-02-2007	#2 (permalink)
Yuzo CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. Sorry, just noticed there is a newbie section

10-02-2007	#3 (permalink)
kg_evilboy Sneaker Fetishist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,316	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. Which media do you use? __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

10-02-2007	#4 (permalink)
Yuzo CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. it has been on media that a friend has sent me, it is on Ritek G05 burnt at 4x/8x

10-02-2007	#5 (permalink)
Jedi Master Yoda CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Somewhere Out There Posts: 798	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. The different shades are normally due to the drive shifting to a different speed. Which disc's gave you playback problems ?? the ones burnt at x8 or x4. __________________ Following the trend.. Drives... Plextor Premium 2 1.03 Lite-On LH-20A1H LL0C Pioneer DVR-111D 1.29 Pioneer DVR-109XLC1 1.58 - Conked out... Lite-On SHW-16H5S LS0W (retired, not working properly with cds) Plextor PX-W2410A 1.04 Lite-On SOHR 5239V 2$0E Aopen 1648/AAP Pro 1.04 (in pvr) Samsung SH-D162C Kreons 0.81 (In External Case) PC Spec..... Gigabyte K8N Pro SLi, AMD 64 X2 3800+, 2GB G.Skill PC3200 ( CL 2-3-2-5,) Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, MSI 7800GTX, OCZ Modstream 520W, Seagate 120GB x2 + 320GB Sata HDD, Artic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro Internet..... Be Unlimited ... up to 24 meg

Commercial message
<a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a5c5554b&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=29&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a5c5554b' border='0' alt='' /></a>

10-02-2007	#6 (permalink)
Yuzo CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. i am not having problems with the shades on the disc, i was just curious if these will cause any problems in the future. I have had a look around the forums and it seems nobody actually has problems when playing discs with different shades, it justs looks worse than it is. the media i am mostly talking about is 4x (finishes the burn at 8x).

10-02-2007	#7 (permalink)
Yuzo CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. anybody know anything about this: 2. When i play some discs on my player, some take ages to load, and makes alot of noise, whilst others load instantly .... all are on the same media, and get the same good results on the Nero quality graph.

10-02-2007	#8 (permalink)
kg_evilboy Sneaker Fetishist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,316	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. Stay away from RITEK G05. It's one of the worst disc types money can buy, it can degrade really fast and cause lots of trouble. Try some Taiyo Yuden, Maxell (Made in Japan only) or Verbatim. __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

10-02-2007	#9 (permalink)
TL0 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,178	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. Ritek G05 is quite interesting when it comes to potential longevity issues as it is so variable in this respect. I have a small sample of them burned in the last year where some have degraded beyond the point of playability within weeks while others are still fine. Safer to avoid them if you don't wish for such possible headaches.

10-02-2007	#10 (permalink)
Yuzo CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. thanks fo your input guys, i was about to buy a bunch of them aswell. i have now updated to these TYG02: http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=164 good choice ?

10-02-2007	#11 (permalink)
kg_evilboy Sneaker Fetishist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,316	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. Much better than RITEK G05. But the compatibility of TYG02 is questionable. I would recommend YUDEN000 T02 8x DVD+R instead. __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

11-02-2007	#17 (permalink)
minaelromany CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT Posts: 2,302	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. C'mon guys , he meant £1 more http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=171 http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=164 __________________ C2Q Q6600 L804@3.4 (426x8) 1.425 Bios (1.36 CPU-Z) Vcore with stock HSF Foxconn MARS A-Data 2x1GB EE 1066+ Gigabyte 8800GT TF @700-2100 Asus MW221C 22" Widescreen LCD 2x500GB WD SE16 Audigy2 ZS-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital HEC ACE 420 watt PSU Samsung 203B SB03 ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB Benq DW-2000@LiteOn 20A4P 9PV1 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media

11-02-2007	#18 (permalink)
kg_evilboy Sneaker Fetishist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,316	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. No! It's £0.91! I know I'm annoying __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

13-02-2007	#21 (permalink)
cd pirate CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,054	Re: Some Newbie Quality Questions. Nope they are ritek G05, it's a definite crappy media problem in this case. I have had over 100 of them screw up over time. Verbatim is also a good choice along with TY, just in case you were not aware. If verbatim is cheaper, I would hit that up first __________________ Best DVD media: Verbatim MCC002 4x DVD+R Verbatim MCC02RG20 8x DVD-R DATASTREAM BRANDED CMC MAG E01 8x DVD+R Verbatim MCC04 & MCC03RG20 16x DVD +-R Ritek G05 media = My writers: BenQ 1620 (thanks to terminalvelocd!), BenQ DW1800 x 2, LG 4167B, LG H22N, Pioneer 106D, Pioneer 109, Pioneer 111L.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
A few newbie questions.	ecko51	DVDFab / DVD Region+CSS Free	5	04-11-2006 15:39
Few newbie questions...	owain	Newbie Forum	1	16-06-2004 16:15
A few newbie questions....	seraph1	Newbie Forum	5	26-05-2004 19:10
2 newbie questions	kevtree	Video Edit Software	3	26-03-2004 01:07
newbie questions	ronbobo	Clone CD	4	29-12-2001 00:07