Just burned a 9 years old CD-R! - Page 2 - Club CDFreaks

bsgd · 17-08-2006

I must say that I'm impressed by the old days CD-Rs quality!
Thanks MegaDETH and DrageMester for contributing!

*bigmike7* · 17-08-2006

Yo-

I have some Ricoh - Made in USA - Platinum 74 minute 650mb and Maxell - Made In Japan - Gold 80 minute 700mb CD-R's - but none of my burners will burn a test disc onto them - wonder why-eh?

**DrageMester** · 17-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsgd

I must say that I'm impressed by the old days CD-Rs quality!
Thanks MegaDETH and DrageMester for contributing!

Thanks for starting the thread and providing the scan that prompted this discussion!

bsgd · 17-08-2006

Well let me add a scan from a Verbatim AZO. It was bought about 5 years ago, and burned with my LG 4163B at 16X.
Not a great burn but anyway still pretty good.

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : CD-R
Manufacturer: : Verbatim
MID : 97m34s22f
Write speeds: : 12 X - 16 X
Capacity: : 79:59.74
: 703 MB
Extended Information
Usage : General
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
ATIP
0000 - C0 00 98 00 61 22 16 00 4F 3B 4A 00 00 00 00 00 - ....a"..O;J.....
0010 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ........

**DrageMester** · 17-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsgd

Well let me add a scan from a Verbatim AZO. It was bought about 5 years ago, and burned with my LG 4163B at 16X.
Not a great burn but anyway still pretty good.

Any CD-R burn that manages an average C1 < 2 with no C2 errors, a maximum C1 below 50, and average jitter below 10% *is* a great burn in my opinion!

bsgd · 17-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrageMester

Any CD-R burn that manages an average C1 < 2 with no C2 errors, a maximum C1 below 50, and average jitter below 10% *is* a great burn in my opinion!

Well I certainly must agree with you, but you guys taught me to be too demanding!! Hehehe I know its a great burn, but not good enough to the hall of fame burns

Well and since I can only find crap media nowadays, I have to agree with you, I can't complain. These burns are the best I've got in the last 2 years.

**MegaDETH** · 17-08-2006

I can't get these to ID the MID in any of my drives for some reason.
But at my friends they ID'd as Taiyo Yuden and they have the frosted hub.

Yes they have the straght hub code - 6B258S0208080

Outer hub- 80 PC8484

The cake pack was retro also, pics are sort of large so I will just link to them:

Cake 1 Cake 2 Cake 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg_evilboy

Sw33t! I guess they have straight hub codes?

kg_evilboy · 17-08-2006

Very retro, it's the good old screw cap!

**Arachne** · 17-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsgd

Well let me add a scan from a Verbatim AZO. It was bought about 5 years ago, and burned with my LG 4163B at 16X.
Not a great burn but anyway still pretty good.

.

Well I think that's a very nice burn - again the 4163B does its stuff

bsgd · 18-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arachne

Well I think that's a very nice burn - again the 4163B does its stuff

Yeah, I love my 4163

Spawn51 · 25-08-2006

May be a good burn, but don't try to show C2 errors with 1655. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.

*Qyngali* · 25-08-2006

Wrong, BenQs does support C2 reporting with cdspeed.

kg_evilboy · 25-08-2006

Formally BenQs do, but C2s will only shown by it if it is really bad... it might have something to do with E22 and E32 and stuff and details, but I don't know more.

Spawn51 · 25-08-2006

Thank you very much for your remarks. There are several discussions on this:
Will a BenQ 1650 check a CD burn ???
How good is the BenQ in burning CDs and is a C1 check possible?
My first "proper" CDR scan :)
Ontopic, I'd say that from all my cd's, Verbatim AZO 16x-24x are the best. Very well preserved, scratch resistent, quality burned...

*NBR* · 26-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesterrace

Yes, they certainly would've. I didn't get into burning CDs until 1999 and they were still pretty expensive at that point.

i was about same as you... i know it was 1998 for me cause i can remember, but at the time disc's where like 1 dollar each or so which aint real cheap.... i still have some "2x rated verbatim" disc's that aint been burned... i only have about 3 left in standard cd cases and they just been sitting inside my cabinet and the date on the back of the cd-r's is "Verbatim Corporation, 1997" ... i aint tried burning them since my guess is they will probably burn like crap since my lite-on 24102b cd-rw drive will only burn as slow as 8x i think, which for 2x media i would assume that i will get crap burns... but i do have a old HP cd-rw 8x4x32 drive that will burn @ 2x , but generally speaking the lite-on is a much better burner right?

ill probably just hang onto them for memories or something.

p.s. these disc where back in the day when i used to get buffer underruns somewhat often on my pentium 133mhz machine. lol.

EDIT:
the discs where "made in singapore" ... they have a dark blue look to them... also, i dont know if this matters but it also has this on the back of the case... "a subsidiary of Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation"

there also 74min/650MB disks.

kg_evilboy · 26-08-2006

Cool! The good old MIS CD-R with Metal Azo ^^
I think they will give wonderful burns if burned with the right burner!

*NBR* · 27-08-2006

well here is a scan of one of those disc's that i talked about above although i never burned it recently though... it was probably burned around 1999 on either a slow ass memorex 2x2x6 burner (that burner died not long after i had it... it was a peice of crap lol) or a HP 8x4x32 burner which i still have and seems to work fine... although it's on a old celeron 500mhz pc which i rarely use anymore.

as u can see the results aint all that great.

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kg_evilboy CD Freaks Boy Toy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,318	Re: Just burned a 9 years old CD-R! Formally BenQs do, but C2s will only shown by it if it is really bad... it might have something to do with E22 and E32 and stuff and details, but I don't know more. __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

25-08-2006	#39 (permalink)
Spawn51 New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7	Re: Just burned a 9 years old CD-R! Thank you very much for your remarks. There are several discussions on this: Will a BenQ 1650 check a CD burn ??? How good is the BenQ in burning CDs and is a C1 check possible? My first "proper" CDR scan :) Ontopic, I'd say that from all my cd's, Verbatim AZO 16x-24x are the best. Very well preserved, scratch resistent, quality burned...

26-08-2006	#41 (permalink)
kg_evilboy CD Freaks Boy Toy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sneaker heaven Posts: 5,318	Re: Just burned a 9 years old CD-R! Cool! The good old MIS CD-R with Metal Azo ^^ I think they will give wonderful burns if burned with the right burner! __________________ My collection: 2x Plextor PX-716A 1.09, Lite-On SHW-16H5S @ 1635S YS0Z, Samsung TS-L632B TS01, Lite-On LTR-16101B TS0W, LG GCE-8527B 1.01 LG GSA-H10N @ H12N UJ12 (dead), BenQ DW1650 BCIC (sold) Canon Pixma iP4300 For details on my other (sneaker) collection, please PM me! (You must be into sneakers too to get your info ) Sneaker Fun Fact: When Circa was developing a pro shoe for Chad Muska, he requested a stash pocket to run the entire length of the tongue. When designers asked The Muska if he really needed that much stash room, he replied, “Yo, I gots a lotta weed to fit in there, man!” Code: T6 C1 L2(s)v h d++ a- w++ c+ y+ f+ t+ k s m1- q-

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