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| Top Referrer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. Yeh... They havnt said they are fakes, but they have stopped selling them as TY media, they used to be boasting of how great TY media was on that page. Ben ![]()
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. hello, i'm was looking for a quick answer... i have -R 8X discs and a LG 4160B i can't use k-probe, but dvdinfopro says my discs are TYG02. they look like mirror discs, if that means that you can see a reflection in them, cause in these i can. i've read in here that mirror discs are for some reason bad. why is this? i'd like to know if these discs are fake or real Taiyo Yuden. i got them from blankmedia.ca as it's the only place in canada that i can find. any help you smart guys can give would be muchly appreciated. |
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. Quote:
I just answered my own questions. I thought TDK's were good, but the one's I have are TTG02 and the Memorex are FujiFilm03 and the Office Depot are RitekG04. Last edited by threedd97; 26-12-2004 at 11:33. | |
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| CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. I have these Taiyo Yuden silver thermal 8x DVD+R discs. Are they real? One number says 0901. Another says TG001133. The number nearest to the center of the disc (near the hole) says JH424R04397PG. Thank you. |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MI
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pennsylvania
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. *sigh* I've been bitten by the Fake TYG02's. These are being sold at Newegg.com as Dupsonic 8x DVD-R's. Consumer beware! They have a media code of TYG02: Write descriptor to follow: Media Information Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG02 Format Capacity Not Formatted Free Blocks 412352512 Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB) Book Type DVD-R Media Type DVD-R Media Id Code Speed 8.0x 11080KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps 2x Speed OPC beta 08 2x Speed OPC power 0E 2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 80 2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00 4x Speed OPC beta 06 4x Speed OPC power 13 4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 10 0E 07 4x Write Strategy field 2 97 07 0D 0B 4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00 4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06 4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 18 4x Write Strategy field 4 17 85 78 75 4x Write Strategy field 5 D6 89 A8 92 01 20 4x Write Strategy field 6 10 00 D0 00 00 Data area starting sector 30000h Linear Density 0.267um/bit Track Density 0.74um/track Number of Layers 1 They burn out like some of the other burns seen with 1,200 or more PI Errors. Serial number on the inner hub is E2000408. I've certainly been duped!
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. Purchase from Meritline / cddvdrmedia.com on Dec. 27, 2004 I purchased the Taiyo Yuden DVD-R47ZZSB8 which you advertised as 8x. It is not. DVD Identifier shows that is 4x. In fact, DVD Identifier displays a warning for 6x+ recording as pasted below. DVDInfo also identifies the discs I received as a 4x write strategy. You have access to the same info as I, and it is your profession to correctly market the product you sell. Therefore, I must unfortunately assume that this item has been falsely misrepresented. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R] Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [TYG02] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x] [6x And Higher Might Not Always Be Detectable] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. Quote:
www.accaproducts.com You are guaranteed to get the genuine media from both of these companies.
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pennsylvania
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. And I'd assume Meritline would fall in that category as well? As far as places to buy true Taiyo Yuden from... I only ask because I just ordered 100 of the 8x DVD+R Silver Thermal TY's from them.
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| CD Freaks Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CT, USA
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. sunsocal, if your DVD drive doesn't support TYG02 at 8x, then it's your fault, and not Meritline's. Do you have other TYG02 discs that do supply 8x write descriptors when used in your drive? |
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. My apology for the mis-post if the 4x reading on the 8x TY purchased from Meritline is due to my machine, and not a fake per my 12/30 post. I am new at this. The reasons I thought they were fake: 1) Nowhere on any of the packaging is a country of origin printed. 2) After reading the discs on my machine (2nd DVD Identifier below), I compared the results to the data on the same discs which was listed by Supermediastore (1st DVD Identifier below). Mine showed 4x while supermediastore showed 8x. My machine is a LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S USB Single Layer 8x +RW/-RW (LaCie). If it is my machine, maybe someone could please help confirm based on the other discs IDs below. http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo...d-r-media.html Taiyo Yuden 8X DVD-R Media silver thermal printable Ratings: Product Code: DVD01X0165 Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Mfr part #: DVD-R47ZZSB8 Burnt at 8X on the NEC 2500A. Firmware: official NEC 1.07 firmware. DVD Identifier info: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc Type : [DVD-R] Manufacturer ID : [TYG02] Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.] Disc Application Code : [Unrestricted Use : Consumer Purpose] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x , 6x , 8x] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)] LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S USB Single Layer 8x +RW/-RW (LaCie) using DVD Identifier : Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD –R (DVD-R47ZZSB8) 2 x 50 Packs, meritline.com/cdrdvdrmedia.com, 12/27/2004 ** No country of origin anywhere on the cake box packaging --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TYG02] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R] Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [TYG02] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x] [6x And Higher Might Not Always Be Detectable] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- FUJI 8x DVD +R (Japan) 100 Pack, Best Buy, 12/30/2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R] Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000] Media Type ID : [T02] Product Revision : [Not Specified] Blank Disc Capacity : [Not Supported By Method 2] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x] [Method 2 Might Not Always Detect All Speeds] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maxell 8x DVD +RW (Japan) 15 Pack, Staples, 12/30/04 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+RW:RICOHJPN-W11-001] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD+RW] - [DVD+RW] Manufacturer Name : [Ricoh Co. Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [RICOHJPN] Media Type ID : [W11] Product Revision : [001] Blank Disc Capacity : [Not Supported By Method 2] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x] [Method 2 Might Not Always Detect All Speeds] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maxell 8x DVD –R (Taiwan ?) 25 Pack, Staples, 12/22/2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:MXL RG03] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R] Manufacturer Name : [Hitachi Maxell Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [MXL RG03] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x] [6x And Higher Might Not Always Be Detectable] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- TDK 8x –R (Taiwan) 25 Pack, Staples, 10/17/2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:TTG02] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R] Manufacturer Name : [TDK Corp.] Manufacturer ID : [TTG02] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x] [6x And Higher Might Not Always Be Detectable] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] |
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. are these Fuji disks authentic TY media?
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. Guys, it's simple. If it's a good brand (EXCEPT Verbatim), really "Made in Japan" and the MID is TYG for -R or YUDEN000T for +R. Then it's genuine TY. There's no such thing as real and cheap TY, except those which failed the QC ...
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. Egital, another Fake TYG02 DVD-R Media (Made in Taiwan), I try in many burners an only work good in LG drives
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| New on Forum Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark
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| Re: Brands and disc types that are fake Taiyo Yudens. These are sold as Budget 1-8x DVD+R and have a red surface with silver writing (No serial printed on them, which is always nice, hehe) This url is printed in the bottom of the discs: www.01ne.co.uk I've not made a single bad burn in a pack of 25.. However if movies are burnt at 8x they can stutter a bit on lower brand dvd-player. However they play perfect on my pc. Burner is a Lite-On 1653 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R] Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000] Media Type ID : [T02] Product Revision : [Not Specified] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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