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Video Edit Software Discuss, how many 30minute tv shows will go on a dvdr? Only one!!! at International Chat: Software related forum; Please reply. I have a few divx 30 minute long shows that I want to convert and put on a dvd to view on my standalone player. I have been using tmpgenc pro to do this but starting to convert one episode says it is about 80 minutes long and


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Old 31-03-2004   #1 (permalink)
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how many 30minute tv shows will go on a dvdr? Only one!!!

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I have a few divx 30 minute long shows that I want to convert and put on a dvd to view on my standalone player.

I have been using tmpgenc pro to do this but starting to convert one episode says it is about 80 minutes long and 4gig in size!! I can't remember what the settings were I used but I was following the divx to dvd mpeg2 guide at dvdrhelp.com . I just cancelled out of the conversion so I don't know what the mpeg2 was like.

Whats going on? Why would a half hour show fill up a whole dvdr or does the mpeg2 compress heaps when you go through the next stage of authoring?

I was hoping to get half a dozen episodes on a disk - well a lot more than one half hour show?

I have used tmpgenc years ago for vcd's so I am familiar with it but have not looked at it for at least a year and never for mpeg2 stuff.

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I suggest you have a read of the Tutorial at http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=61142

But one small change, in the Bitrate tab, set the CD Size to 1/6 of the 4440 (=740) if your putting 6 eps per DVD. Then add them all into TMPGenc DVD Author (or DVDLab) and add a menu so you can select them when playing back.
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using gspot the divx video bitrate is 952 kb/s - does that relate to a bit rate for an mpeg?

Also you say to change the bitrate to say 1/6 of 4400. What about the max, min and avg like in your screen shot. And is 700 OK (tmpgenc would not go under 2000)?



Gee nothing is easy - I wish someone would write a prog that does it all by just clicking one button

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No, leave Max and Min bitrates alone. If TMPGEnc has a min of 2000 then leave it at that as well. Setting the CD size tells DVD2SVCD to calculate the best possible bitrate (within the Max & Min settings) to fit to a CD (here actually a DVDR) of size 740. Setting it to 740 will give you a 740meg encoded MPEG2 file, 6 of these then can fit to DVD.

Also, one of our past Prime Ministers once said "Life wasn't ment to be easy", unfortunately for AVI to DVD with any decent quality, then you have to work at it

The bitrate of the AVI has absolutely nothing to do with the final bitrate of the MPGE2 file.
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Originally posted by ChickenMan ...Also, one of our past Prime Ministers once said "Life wasn't meant to be easy", unfortunately for AVI to DVD with any decent quality, then you have to work at it ...
Gee, I haven't heard that Paul Keating quote for a while - but I guess it's true - especially this.

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...Setting the CD size tells DVD2SVCD to calculate the best possible bitrate (within the Max & Min settings) to fit to a CD (here actually a DVDR) of size 740. Setting it to 740 will give you a 740meg encoded MPEG2 file, 6 of these then can fit to DVD.
Would that still give you OK quality? How many hours of video do you get on a DVD-/+R ? Two , Three hours?

Thanks for the tute - explains it pretty well (except now the process bombs out for a movie length encoding, oh well I'll figure that out)
One more thing - I can choose tmpgenc for the encoding instead of cce, is one better than the other?
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Stay around 3500-4000 (excluding sound) and you should be fine most of the time.
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One more thing - I can choose tmpgenc for the encoding instead of cce, is one better than the other?
Yes you can choose TMPGEnc rather than CCE, but expect an almost double encoding time. Personly I prefer the quality of CCE over TMPGenc, but there is not a lot of differenc.
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Thanks for your help ChickenMan.

Now some more questions, please

What you have suggested works well for my small 30min divx's (weel I have tried the authoring art yet) but when I want to do a movie legth divx (and adjusting the corresponding bits in dvd2svcd to suit) CCE crashes. If I tick use tmpgenc, all is fine. You mention "Add ResampleAudio needs to be ticked if you have an AMD CPU, else CCE will crash. " I haven't done this with my Intel, should I (it's a 2.8gig HyperThread)


Now I get to the Author part (after tmpgenc finally finishes-gee it's slow) . I go through all your settings and get to click the Begin Output button and tmpgenc author just quits on me. If I look on the hard drive I have the audio ts and video ts folders - BOTH are empty.
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I have just realised I never converted the audio to ac3 - still used mp2. Would that cause any of the problems I am having.
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There can be many problems why CCE crashes, typically its from AVI's that have problems. CCE 2.50 also crashes on many systems running memory in dual channel mode (hyperthreading) where the memory is not up to par. Try CCE 2.66 as it seems to be okay in this mode, but 20% slower.

Leave the ResampleAudio ticked, should not be a problem.

As for TMPGEnc DVD Author, hmm.. thats new to me, not sure where the problem could be. I doubt using MP2 rather than AC3 audio would cause the problem. Another very worthy authoring program is DVDLab, give it a try.
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There can be many problems why CCE crashes, typically its from AVI's that have problems. CCE 2.50 also crashes on many systems running memory in dual channel mode (hyperthreading) where the memory is not up to par. Try CCE 2.66 as it seems to be okay in this mode, but 20% slower.

Leave the ResampleAudio ticked, should not be a problem.

As for TMPGEnc DVD Author, hmm.. thats new to me, not sure where the problem could be. I doubt using MP2 rather than AC3 audio would cause the problem. Another very worthy authoring program is DVDLab, give it a try.
The memory should be fine - brandname and matched. I will try 2.66, is that the latest?

I will try DVDLab but what about Nero 6 VisionExpress - that should do the job, shouldn't it?
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CCE 2.66 is the last of their non-beta versions. Their 2.67 are still all beta. You can get the demo from doom9 download section.

Nero 6 VisionExpress, sorry but crap. To many sync issues and poor quality. Not good.
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thanks, you're a champ.
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ChickenMan, I reinstalled all the DVD autouring/ encoding stuff again and I'm using CCE2.5 and now it works fine Tmpgenc still bombs out so I am trying DVDlab which seems to work - but way to big to use for me.

I made a DVD finally and it plays on another PC of mine (notebook) but it is very jerky/choppy (the DVDplayer software starts automatically) and I can forward and backward chapters. It won't play on my standalone player or a friends Voxson standalone though.

Does this mean I have almost got it right or ??? I am not sure , do just a few settings need adjustments.

I am getting the trial of Uleads DVD factory to try.
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Choppy playback is normally associated with crappy media. If it plays fine on your Laptop, then that shows the conversion went okay.

Some of the best media to use is Ritek DVD-R 4x, they are as cheap as $1.15 down here in Melbourne. Another is DataBank 4x, reported to be about 80c each now.
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The movie is choppy on the notebook and doesn't play at all on two standalone players.
I am using ULtran media dvd-r from thediscshop.
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I still feel you need to try some better media.
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