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Old 09-01-2003   #1 (permalink)
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How to backup your DVD to VCD?

Is there one program that will make a backup of a DVD to VCD on a CDR?
If so, which program is the easiest to use?
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If you want to do it in one go I understand a program called Eazy VCD (get it??) does it in one, I've downloaded it from here

www.eazyvcd.tk

but haven't tried it yet so can't vouch for it personally.

I Use DVDdecrypter / DVD2AVI / TMPGEnc / Nero and get pretty good results.
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If you want to do it in one go I understand a program called Eazy VCD (get it??) does it in one, I've downloaded it from here
Thanks.
I was just reading about two other programs.
DVDSqueez and DVD-to-SVCD.

Have you heard anything about them?
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I use EazyVcd. It's an absolute no-brainer to use and produces very high quality vcds. It's also free.
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I use EazyVcd. It's an absolute no-brainer to use and produces very high quality vcds. It's also free.
Does EazyVcd require any other software to be installled on my computer?
Also does it compress the file so it will fit on a CDR?

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You'll need another program to burn the output files. Otherwise, no, EazyVcd installs all the programs required for ripping and encoding.

Output is either in mpeg or bin/cue format.

If in mpeg format, you can simply use nero (or nero express, even easier) to burn as a vcd that you can use on your stand-alone dvd player. If you don't have nero, you can use the freeware VcdEasy to do the same job.

If you choose bin/cue format then you can burn them with any bin/cue burning program (e.g. cdrwin, fireburner, nero, alcohol, blindwrite or the freeware burnatonce). Aternatively, you can mount the image on a virtual drive and just do a cd-copy from there.

As for fitting on a single cd, generally, the answer is no for a standard length movie (say 90 min to 2 hours). You can however specify that the output files are to be split so as to fit on either 74 or 80 min cds (there's about a 3 sec overlap so you don't miss anything, btw).

You can also encode to Xvcd format so that the movie will fit on a single 74 or 80 min (your choice) cd. However, this will cause a significant loss of quality and the format isn't supported by all stand-alone dvd players. I wouldn't bother with it.
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[quote]Originally posted by philamber
You'll need another program to burn the output files. Otherwise, no, EazyVcd installs all the programs required for ripping and encoding.

Output is either in mpeg or bin/cue format.

What is the difference, and which is preferred? mpeg or bin/cue

If in mpeg format, you can simply use nero (or nero express, even easier) to burn as a vcd that you can use on your stand-alone dvd player. If you don't have nero, you can use the freeware VcdEasy to do the same job.

If you choose bin/cue format then you can burn them with any bin/cue burning program (e.g. cdrwin, fireburner, nero, alcohol, blindwrite or the freeware burnatonce). Aternatively, you can mount the image on a virtual drive and just do a cd-copy from there.

As for fitting on a single cd, generally, the answer is no for a standard length movie (say 90 min to 2 hours). You can however specify that the output files are to be split so as to fit on either 74 or 80 min cds (there's about a 3 sec overlap so you don't miss anything, btw).

There is a program called DVD Squeeze. I wonder if it works?


You can also encode to Xvcd format so that the movie will fit on a single 74 or 80 min (your choice) cd. However, this will cause a significant loss of quality and the format isn't supported by all stand-alone dvd players. I wouldn't bother with it.
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wrong forum, eh?
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Bibs & bobs is right . Check out the DiVX & Video Editing forum, wiseguy. I'm also in the process of trying to come to grips with all this as well. Chickenman's tutorials are the first place to start, they really are excellent - take the time to read them, they'll answer a lot of your questions.

Also use the search function - has been known to work occasionally.

I made my first VCD using EazyVCD / Nero and it worked fine. Piece of cake, as they say.

SVCD is a whole new ball game.

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Bibs & bobs is right . Check out the DiVX & Video Editing forum, wiseguy.
Cheers.
Then let someone move it!



I am waiting for DVD'RW's to come down a bit.
Then we don't have to go through all this.
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Done. Now ChickenMan can sort out your queries.
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wrong forum, eh?

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VCD, why not SVCD format?

Wiseguy,
Just curious as to why your converting to VCD format (as the video quality sucks). Most home dvd players these days can play SVCD and this is far more video quality than VCD. ChickenMan has posted tuts if you wish to get your feet wet and give it a go

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Re: VCD, why not SVCD format?

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Wiseguy,
Just curious as to why your converting to VCD format (as the video quality sucks). Most home dvd players these days can play SVCD and this is far more video quality than VCD. ChickenMan has posted tuts if you wish to get your feet wet and give it a go

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Well.... It's because I don't like using two or more cdr's.

That's one reason I asked about the program DVDSqueez.

I understand that program can compress a SVCD to fit on ONE cdr.

Thanks for your reply Shoebedobedoo.
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If you consider purchasing a dvd burner your looking at 2 dvd-r's just to copy a dvd. Most dvd's are more than 4.7 gb soo by going the SVCD route, you get the best video quality at present. Most of my backups are 2 cd-r's

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Hi Shobedobedoo, I just did Terminator2 and Phantom Menace (approx. 2hs. 15 ea.). Both took 3 x 80 min. cd's. Have you done these, and if so did you get them onto 2 cd'd (SVCD, of course )?
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When converting a movie that is roughly 2:10 min- 2:15 min, it will take 3 cd-r's reguardless if I cut the audio to 128 kbps. I don't know what your point is here? I won't waste my money on a dvd burner because the prices are too high and even the media. My SVCD backups are superior video quality and I'm paying about 10 pennies for my cd-r's because I buy them in large bulk quantities. Even ChickenMan, moderator here will swear how great SVCD video quality really is. If you wan't to waste money on a dvd burner, that's up to you m8 To answer your question, no I can't get those 2 movies on 2 cd-r's because when I encode, I choose multi-pass vbr-4 and my audio at 224 kbps. I like to get the best out of a dvd encode

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I think you're confusing wiseguy and me, shoebe (I guess we must look the same ?) He mentioned dvd burners further back in this thread, not me - at current prices, I'm not the least bit interested.

My question was simply seeking information from someone (in this case you) who quite obviously has more experience in this area than moi. I agree with you with regard to quality, which is why I end up with the aforementioned movies on 3 discs. I just wondered whether I was missing something in my settings, but from your statements I don't think I'm missing anything (other than a few brain cells, which I drowned in my youth).
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Sorry on my behalf m8 As long as you follow ChckMan's tuts, you can't go wrong (How to backup dvd to svcd). A good movie for a test is Mission Impossible 2. This movie is about 2:10 and when I encoded, I chose multi-pass vbr-3 and my audio at 160 kbps. Well, after I encoded I watched the tail end of the 2nd disc and the movie got into about a 1/4th of the credits (yipee). In other words, I barely got this movie on 2 cd-r's but later re-encoded again and choose multi-pass vbr-4 and set my audio to 224 kbps. This time I ended up with 3 cd-r's and that was good enough for me. Just be sure to tick "min. avg." in the Bitrate tab folder and over to the right, set the cd size to 800 for the first 3.

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Thanks for the info. I've pretty well set things to chookies recommendations, I'm using vbr=3, audio=192 (default, I think?), cd size=800. I haven't gone higher with the settings 'cos a Duron 900 still takes approx. 14 hrs. and the sound is quite adequate for my not-so-perfect ears.

I'm using the internal ripper so that I get the DVD chapters. I've recently read of a suggestion to rip the individual chapters and then use them to determine where the disc change point is, so you get a clean cut. Sounds interesting, but a bit complex. Might have to look into it, though.

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Done. Now ChickenMan can sort out your queries.
Thanks mate !

There are not many SVCD's that end up on 3 CD's, most are 2 only. The default settings in DVD2SVCD for a 3cd SVCD is 125min movie or greater. So fo a 124min movie it would normally put it on 2 CD's, but the bitrate is now pretty low. Its ita 16:9 or even full screen then the quality of pick would be quite poor (for a SVCD) so only then would I override the 2cd setting and make it 3. No need for increasing VBR passes, 3 is really all you need, 4 or more is only for the purists that watch the quality of the movie and not the actual movie. If you really want 4 or more VBR passes, I suggest you get a DVD Burner, they are cheap enough really.

@wiseguy if you really want a movie to fit to one CD and be possibly playable onnour DVD Player then, XSVCD or XVCD is your answer. First post to your request by minezastella gave you the answer, EazyVCD. Its free, everything included, just install. Drop in DVD, select XSVCD, 1 cd and GO ! You really cant get it much simpler. Burn out as a non-compliant SVCD with VCDEasy or Nero.
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yay! quiet interesting reading here... thz for the info... ill start messing around with this apps..
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dvd burning

where can i download a program to convert my dvd's to cd-r?


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Thanks mate !
@wiseguy if you really want a movie to fit to one CD and be possibly playable onnour DVD Player then, XSVCD or XVCD is your answer. First post to your request by minezastella gave you the answer, EazyVCD. Its free, everything included, just install. Drop in DVD, select XSVCD, 1 cd and GO ! You really cant get it much simpler. Burn out as a non-compliant SVCD with VCDEasy or Nero.
Thanks Chickenman!

How long do you think a 2hour movie will take to burn with a 750 AMD and a Liteon 24x burner? Also will most DVD players play the XSVCD?

Thanks again.
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Wiseguy, my first VCD was Shrek (bit under 2 hrs, I think). I'm running a Duron 750, o/c to 900, took 4.5 hrs. to rip and encode using EazyVCD. A 750 probably won't take that much longer. Burnt at max. on Liteon 32123s, coupla minutes per disc using Nero. Works fine.

However, 99% of the posts recommend burning (S)VCD's at maybe 8x, which is what I now do.

Hope this helps.
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