Editing DVD video prior to reencoding - Club CDFreaks

Midiman2007 · 08-03-2007

I frequently like to rip bonus music video tracks off DVDs... and edit off leading material prior to reencoding. I typically use Premiere 6 to edit video but it doesn't like native VOB files... and it doesn't like any of the MP4 formats I reencode to. I generally use DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink and DVDx along with Videora for final reencoding to an iPod. Any suggestions on what to use to edit a VOB file to lop of 40 seconds of lead-in chatter prior to the content I want to keep in a ripped VOB file... or something that will convert the VOB file to something I can edit in Premiere? Preferably a raw, uncompressed AVI file?

**imkidd57** · 08-03-2007

Rip the music PGC (ProGram Chain) from the disc with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode, and change the extension of the resulting file from '.vob' to '.mpg'. That should import into Premiere and allow you to edit...

Midiman2007 · 08-03-2007

Trying to import that video clip locks up Premiere very nicely.

*CDan* · 08-03-2007

DVDShrink is able to do simple edits. It will also export to one large VOB that can be handled as an MPEG.

Converting a VOB(MPEG) to AVI and then re-encoding again to MPEG4 will introduce some loss of quality, not to mention loss of time. A VOB is MPEG-2, so any editor should open one after the file extension is changed.

Midiman2007 · 08-03-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDan

DVDShrink is able to do simple edits. It will also export to one large VOB that can be handled as an MPEG.

Converting a VOB(MPEG) to AVI and then re-encoding again to MPEG4 will introduce some loss of quality, not to mention loss of time. A VOB is MPEG-2, so any editor should open one after the file extension is changed.

I suppose DVD Shrinks cludge of a cut will have to do for now. I would have preferred a nice audio/video fade up. I'm aware that VOB files are containers for mpeg-2... I just can't get one to load into Premiere 6. Maybe I'm missing a codec or something.

There shouldn't be any loss converting to AVI as long as you don't use any compression.

*CDan* · 08-03-2007

There's some loss in any and all video conversions. There shouldn't be, but there is. BTW, I have no trouble opening VOB files re-named to MPG in Ulead, Procoder or any TMPGEnc proggie.

Daemonicus · 08-03-2007

Premiere 6 won't open MPEG2 files... at least not on my system. Some freeware MPEG2 editors are MPEG2Cut and Cuttermarran (must be demuxed 1st). You can use VDMod to convert the VOB to uncompressed avi, but the audio will most likely not be accepted into Premiere 6 if it is AC3/MP2... so you'll probably have to convert it to uncompressed too...... or you could give Debugmode's frameserver a try
http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/

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Midiman2007 New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6	Editing DVD video prior to reencoding <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I frequently like to rip bonus music video tracks off DVDs... and edit off leading material prior to reencoding. I typically use Premiere 6 to edit video but it doesn't like native VOB files... and it doesn't like any of the MP4 formats I reencode to. I generally use DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink and DVDx along with Videora for final reencoding to an iPod. Any suggestions on what to use to edit a VOB file to lop of 40 seconds of lead-in chatter prior to the content I want to keep in a ripped VOB file... or something that will convert the VOB file to something I can edit in Premiere? Preferably a raw, uncompressed AVI file? Last edited by Midiman2007; 08-03-2007 at 00:41. Reason: Typos

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imkidd57 Senior Moderator & Editor Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Fajara Posts: 7,640	Re: Editing DVD video prior to reencoding Rip the music PGC (ProGram Chain) from the disc with DVD Decrypter in IFO mode, and change the extension of the resulting file from '.vob' to '.mpg'. That should import into Premiere and allow you to edit... __________________ . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you are new to the internet, have a query about digital storage, or would maybe like to tell us a bit about yourself: just register with us and try either the Newbie forum or the CD Freaks Living Room. Alternatively, if you fancy some chit-chat (without technical help), then you're welcome to use the Chatbox to have a natter to other experienced members and staff. Look what you get when you join CD Freaks: Interactive access to our forum-based knowledge service Give feedback on News articles on the Front Page Ask questions to the people that actually review the software & hardware Chat with staff and members alike in the live Chatbox Option of a free newsletter Nervous about posting? Don't be: this is one of the friendliest communities around and we value our new members. You're well-protected by the forum rules that everyone signs up to. So what are you waiting for? Click the smiley to join --> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Midiman2007 New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6	Re: Editing DVD video prior to reencoding Trying to import that video clip locks up Premiere very nicely.

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CDan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,706	Re: Editing DVD video prior to reencoding DVDShrink is able to do simple edits. It will also export to one large VOB that can be handled as an MPEG. Converting a VOB(MPEG) to AVI and then re-encoding again to MPEG4 will introduce some loss of quality, not to mention loss of time. A VOB is MPEG-2, so any editor should open one after the file extension is changed.

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CDan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,706	Re: Editing DVD video prior to reencoding There's some loss in any and all video conversions. There shouldn't be, but there is. BTW, I have no trouble opening VOB files re-named to MPG in Ulead, Procoder or any TMPGEnc proggie.

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Daemonicus CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: On top of your Mother Posts: 413	Re: Editing DVD video prior to reencoding Premiere 6 won't open MPEG2 files... at least not on my system. Some freeware MPEG2 editors are MPEG2Cut and Cuttermarran (must be demuxed 1st). You can use VDMod to convert the VOB to uncompressed avi, but the audio will most likely not be accepted into Premiere 6 if it is AC3/MP2... so you'll probably have to convert it to uncompressed too...... or you could give Debugmode's frameserver a try http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/ __________________ www.REMOVETHESITE.com

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