I record TV shows for my son who is stationed overseas. I burn the DVDs on a LiteOn burner. The LiteOn Creates two directories: Video_RM with files that have the suffix .BUP, .DAT, .IFO; Video_TS with files that the the suffix .BUP, .IFO, .VOB (Don't think I left any out). I want to edit out the commercials and other baggage that comes with TV shows. My desired path would be: record on a DVD-/+RW, move to my computer and edit the shows, and then burn the finished product on a DVD-/+R. Now I have talked to Roxio, Pinacle, and NERO and have gotten no where. Friend stated that editing the above format is a real bear. That I need to convert to .WMV, edit and convert back. Just looking for the simplest way to do this. I am not a video editor nor do I desire to become one. Just want to create some discs for my kid. Would appreciate some suggestions. I do want the finished product to be in the same format that the LiteOn creates. With suggestion, please include software names that would have to be used. It appears that the biggest problem is not from the DVD format, but back to it. Any help appreciated. Eight8Air

There is no need to convert to .wmv. You can edit out commercials with a program called VideoRedo Plus. Read the guides at their site for importing and exporting dvd files. There is a 30 day trial available for you to test the program.

The Video_RM folder is an odd bit...made by some dvd recorders and a brief bit of googling shows this from the AfterDawn site:

"Folders found in a DVD file structure can often contain a legacy folder called VIDEO_RM. Essentially, this folder is rather useless to most set-top DVD players as it is a folder referenced on Philips brand DVD recorders as well as Philips clones. For reasons unknown, Philips decided not to abide by standards of DVD file structures and used this VIDEO_RM folder to hold information about the recording device a DVD was created on.

The folder, when viewed through several DVD re-authoring tools will show that it is useless much in the same way an AUDIO_TS folder is.

There have been cases where DVDs created with the VIDEO_RM folder have caused several other brands of set-top players, DVD re-authoring programs and other devices to not read the DVD information correctly. Often an error similar to "unrecognized file structure" will be given as whatever device is reading the disk does not understand what to do with the Video_RM folder. Simple fixes include loading the DVD in File mode on certain DVD re-authoring programs and deleting anything associated with the Video_RM folder, then compiling a new, clean ISO."



Most dvd players don't need the Video_RM folder and will ignore it. You should be able to just import the Video_TS folder onto the computer and work with it in VideoReDo. If you run into a snag, post back here and I'll see if I can help.

Kerry 56 is right, no need to convert to .wmv, you can use vobBlanker (free) to remove unwanted material from your VIDEO_TS folder and save to new backup...
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VobBlanker

I thank you for the comeback. While reading the VideoReDo Manual, it refers to my data as DVD Stream (VOB), which I believe is what in the Video_TS file (I do wish to have the edited program in the same format as the original). Does this mean that I need some special software to reburn this to a DVD. Basically, I use the VideoReDo to get rid of the commercials. What do I use to get it back on to a DVD. Can I use standard burning software and burn it as a data file. I have RipIt4Me, DVDDecrypt, DVDShrink, and VTSFix. When I have used the DVDShrink I have told it to created the Video_TS forlder which I have burned back to a DVD using standard burning software in Data Mode. It worked. Like I said, I am a knob at this and would just like to solve the "remove commercials" problem. Thanks again for the help. Eight8Air

You could do it in DVD Shrink re-author mode. You can select start and end points for the video segments you want to keep. The drawbacks of Shrink are no menu and each segment will be a different title on the DVD. The plus is only what is needed goes to the DVD and you can compress the shows to fit more on a DVD.

The first thing to do is look in Tools->Options->Enhanced Plus Features and put a check mark in the box for Auto Combine Sequential Filenames. This will let you highlight all the vob files in your Video_TS folder and import them into VideoRedo. It will combine everything into one stream that you can edit. I always use manual cuts in VideoRedo, because it is much more accurate that way, but you can use the automated function if you prefer.

Once you are done and ready to save, you have the option to save as a vob, but it will not be to dvd specs---too large and no navigation files. VideoReDo is working on an option to author to dvd, but it hasn't come out yet. So you might as well save as an mpeg2 file and use an authoring program to convert back to dvd format.

There are several different programs that can author your mpeg files to dvd now that the commercials are gone. DVDFlick is a free program that can do this. GUIforDVDAuthor and DVDStyler are two other free options. This isn't hard and won't take very long since the mpeg2 files will already have the correct specs---no reencoding in other words.

Once in dvd format, (a Video_TS folder with all the appropriate files), you can burn with Nero as a dvd-video, or use any other burning program that can handle dvd video. ImgBurn is a free burning program that can do this. You might want to read the guides at their forum though.

If you'd rather have everything combined in one program, cutting commercials and returning the video to dvd specs, you should look at the Womble programs. Womble Video Wizard DVD is their latest. I'm a little reluctant to recommend them since I haven't used them, and there were reports that the cuts made in earlier versions caused problems. Probably a long-solved bug by now though. They do have trial versions of their software too, so you might be interested in trying them.

Files:

Video_TS.BUP
Video_TS.INO
Video_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.INO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB

It appears that I do not want to combine files as I will be to reconvert them. The simpler the method, the grater the chance that I will have success

Can I take the long way and just edit the files.

Can VideoReDo edit the files and leave them in the same format, with the same "Navigation Files". In otherwords, after the edit I can save all to my hard drive and use NERO to burn the files.

I have used DVDShrink with the "Create Video_TS directory checked. It creates the file on my hard drive and I use NERO to burn to a DVD as a data file (it works on my players and on my kid's player.)

Want to use the minimum noumer of programs to do this. If anyone can screw it up ,it's me. My wife is on me like "White on rice." and "If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy".

When you say an "Authoring Program", just what is Authoring?

Another reason is that I would prefer to avoid buying software that is just going to create more fustration for me.

Thanks for the help

Eight8Air

Please excuse last entry. Appears that Copy/Paste did not quite catch.

Thanks for the combacks.

Still a little/lot of confusion.

Lets say that I copy the DVD onto the hard drive.

Example files: On of the DVDs that I have recorded.

Directory:

Video_TS

Files:

Video_TS.BUP
Video_TS.INO
Video_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.INO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB

It appears that I do not want to combine files as I will be to reconvert them. The simpler the method, the grater the chance that I will have success

Can I take the long way and just edit the files.

Can VideoReDo edit the files and leave them in the same format, with the same "Navigation Files". In otherwords, after the edit I can save all to my hard drive and use NERO to burn the files.

I have used DVDShrink with the "Create Video_TS directory checked. It creates the file on my hard drive and I use NERO to burn to a DVD as a data file (it works on my players and on my kid's player.)

Want to use the minimum noumer of programs to do this. If anyone can screw it up ,it's me. My wife is on me like "White on rice." and "If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy".

When you say an "Authoring Program", just what is Authoring?

Another reason is that I would prefer to avoid buying software that is just going to create more fustration for me.

Thanks for the help

Eight8Air

Eight8Air wrote " Another reason is that I would prefer to avoid buying software that is just going to create more fustration for me.
Unfortunately when tying to accomplish your project,things might get a little frustrating and confusing,so try out some of the free progs already suggested or try out some of the commercial ones w/free trials.see what suits you,then come back for advise on those...Don't make things more frustrating than need to...As you will have to get a little dirty and "frustrating" at times,it takes time/effort to get it done....
To remove commercials and stuff not needed for no $ try these..
http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/...vcut/index.php
http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/guides.htm

That was a bad sentence.

I do not mind buying the software.

But the software that I buy I expect to do the job. I don't want to get on the great circle of "first use this software to do this then use this software to do that and then the 3rd program should give you the finished product. I am just interested in "one stop shopping". My fustration is in setting up a requirement, being told this will do it, and then finding out that it does not meet the requirements that you set.

It is real simple:

This is what is on the DVD that LiteOn burns:

Directory:

Video_TS

Files:

Video_TS.BUP
Video_TS.INO
Video_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.INO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB

What I am looking for is software that will allow me to edit those files and remove the commercials. End result of using a single program is the the file structure looks the same (understanding that size will very). But after the edit, want it to look the same.

If there is software outt here that is free and will handle the job, great. If I have to pay; hey, there is no "Free Lunch". Just want to do it with a single program (one stop shopping).

If it cannot be done with a single program I can live with that (does not mean that I like it) but I can live with it. I may have to go to plan "B" or "C", but first want to attempt plan "A"

I really appreciate the comebacks. I am not trying to "hardass" anyone. It is just that when you call these companies you get "Of course our software can do it". Understand the "Try Before You Buy". That is great, but before I try, these are the requirements; will it do it; if not, there is no need to try. The same goes for freeware and shareware.

There are a bunch of people who access that forum. I am sure that they have banged their heads against a brick wall while accomplishing what I am trying to do. Just want to use their experience.

By the way, when the term "Authoring program to convert back to DVD format"; does this mean it's a conversion program. Just what is authoring?

Thanks Again

Eight8Air

'Authoring' an MPEG-2 video file to a DVD-Video can be described thus:To get back to your questions... Many of us on the forums start off with "all-in-one" programs, but eventually find them lacking in facilities or their sometimes quirky behaviour. If you want to try one out, than have a go with something like Ulead's 'DVD Movie Factory 5' or '6', which will allow the direct editing on-disc of the recordings and write all the alterations back to the same disc. Then you can just make a direct copy of the altered DVD+RW to DVD+/-R. There's a month's free trial from the Ulead site.

However what the venerable members are advising is that you could consider going for the most trouble-free and flexible approach; which is a three stage process:

1. Rip the MPEG-2 video from the DVD-Video disc you recorded it on
2. Edit the commercials out
3. Author back to DVD-Video again

For this you can use:

1. DVD Decrypter in IFO mode (and rename the '.vob' file to '.mpg')
2. Video Redo or MPEG Video Wizard
3. GUIforDVDAuthor or DVD Styler to author the DVD-Video again, then ImgBurn to write back to disc

It's horses for courses, so take your pick...

Which is exactly why there are very good progs that offer 30 day free trial,and after that you can purchase if it meets your needs..but no obligation...Some that have already been mentioned are DVDRedo, DVDRemake Pro, and my fave DVDFab Platinum, which can merge diff. videos to one DVD backup....The term authoring is to Edit,cut remove,replace,insert menus,etc. parts of a DVD and save it back to it's DVD format with a new edited version....conversion is when you take one format and convert to other type as in DVD to AVI, and so forth......

DVDShrink in Re-Author mode, using the 'Start/End' function will allow you to manually go thru the entire video and cut out the commercials, down to single frames...AND it will keep everything in DVD compliant VOB,IFO,BUPs.
The only thing you will lose is the ability to chapter jump backwards.
Video quality will stay exceptionally good due to Shrink being the best transcoder around.

VideoReDo can edit out the commercials as well, but it will output it into standard Mpeg2 video format (without the IFOs needed to play in DVD players), so you would then need to convert to or re-author to DVD compliant files (VOB, IFO, BUPs). Using a re-authoring program like DVDLabPro or TMPEGEnc author is supposed to be better for quality retention, however I'm not a fan of Demuxing and Remuxing video and audio...you may end up with audio sync issues...you know like the older KungFu movies dubbed in English...lol

@MBK,ditto on DVDShrink, don't know why I didn't suggest that first as it's free and simple ,and will get your feet wet before the plunge,sorta speak.....
http://www.dvdshrink.info/re-author-advanced.php

I suggested it back at post #5....

And so you did olyteddy,and so you did! props.....

If I can suggest, get MPEG Video Wizard DVD from Womble. It is not free, but will create menus, also you can cut commercials and do transitions between sections. On top it will not re encode what is properly encoded. Since you have VIDEO_TS, that is all you need.
http://www.womble.com/products/index.html

I recommend TmpgEnc DVD Author. You can import the contents of your DVD to your project and then edit it, create a menu and burn it. I especially like the editor program, you just cut out the parts you dont want down to the frame and you can preview your cuts as you are editing. It is very fast and easy to use. Here is a link to a free trial.

http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda3.html

BE SURE TO SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM AFTER SELECTING "DOWNLOAD TRIAL." THAT IS WHERE THE TRIAL VERSION CAN BE DOWNLOADED


Kevin

Moved to Video Edit software.

I have a SONY DVD recorder, RDR-HX750, and with this it's very simple to do what you want, without the need for any computer. Just record the shows on the recorder's hard disk, edit them (using the A-B cutting), and copy the resulting edited clips to a DVD.
I'm sure there are a lot of other DVD recorders that can do the same.

Regards,
Gösta Knochenhauer