DivX 3.11 vs XVid - Club CDFreaks

*ExpertTech* · 13-01-2003

Hello!

I would like to have your opinions on encoding using these. To my eyes, DivX 3.11 produces the most transparent (in the sense that I can't distinguish the source and destination) - videos. Im not saying that these are 100% transparent, but the closest to the source.

I am not interested in DVD to AVI conversions. The videos I encode are lower quality video captures from TV.

Also I use Lame 3.92 ACM for audio. Anything that could perform better?

Thanks!

*Wannez* · 13-01-2003

The experiences I have with DivX3.11 are limited (I stopped using it somehow).
But DivX5 gives me a pretty good feeling about quality and seems to output files very close to the original. It requires some tweaking though; largely depending on the source (resolution, "noise" due to bad VHS tapes or cable, interlaced,..)

Have you compared one of your captures -> divx3.11 with capture -> divx5 yet? (from the same sourcefile) I'm very interested in your opinion about that (maybe I'll give 3.11 another chance then

)
What resolution do you make your DivX? And bitrate?

*ExpertTech* · 13-01-2003

Yes Ive compared DivX 3.11 vs DivX 5 and find that DivX 3.11 is much better than DivX 5. So I would rate the quality as

DivX 3.11 > XVID > DivX 5

I usually encode @ 780 - quite sufficient for my captures.

*SirDavidGuy* · 14-01-2003

Hmmm... Interesting, for the kind of settings and source you mentioned, the opposite should be true (at least, for my eyes).

Are you using 2-Pass, or straight CBR, because then XviD would perform worse, since it uses a true CBR, not any sort of 1-Pass VBR like DivX 5 and DivX 3.11, when you tell all 3 to perform CBR.

*ExpertTech* · 14-01-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by SirDavidGuy
Are you using 2-Pass, or straight CBR

Always straight CBR.

*ExpertTech* · 14-01-2003

Also, SirDavidGuy, if you could give me some tips on improving quality with XVid (or any link to such site), I would be grateful, coz I always prefer an Open source like XVid vs spyware like DivX n alike

*SirDavidGuy* · 14-01-2003

Quote:

if you could give me some tips on improving quality with XVid (or any link to such site), I would be grateful, coz I always prefer an Open source like XVid vs spyware like DivX n alike

Hmmm... Unfortunately, XviD isn't typically used for this type of scenario. Maybe, if you have the HD space, you could cmpress to HuffyUV, and do an XviD 2-Pass, and see how you like the quality.

*ExpertTech* · 17-01-2003

Do you mean to say that XVid is optimal only in two pass? I actually never use two pass - Actually I have lots of average sized files to encode - so 2 pass becomes very machanical method. So is DivX 3.11 better over XVid for 1 pass, CBR?

*ExpertTech* · 17-01-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Wannes
[b]Have you compared one of your captures -> divx3.11 with capture -> divx5 yet? (from the same sourcefile) I'm very interested in your opinion about that (maybe I'll give 3.11 another chance then

)

Yes I have, DivX 3.11 looks much better

Quote:

Originally posted by Wannes
What resolution do you make your DivX? And bitrate?

Always 780 kbps CBR for Video and 130 kbps Lame ABR for Audio

13-01-2003	#1 (permalink)
ExpertTech CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,000	DivX 3.11 vs XVid <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hello! I would like to have your opinions on encoding using these. To my eyes, DivX 3.11 produces the most transparent (in the sense that I can't distinguish the source and destination) - videos. Im not saying that these are 100% transparent, but the closest to the source. I am not interested in DVD to AVI conversions. The videos I encode are lower quality video captures from TV. Also I use Lame 3.92 ACM for audio. Anything that could perform better? Thanks! __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2 Ghz (400 x 8) Asus P5W Wifi Deluxe AP Asus Silent Square Cooler FSP Group FX 700 GLN 700W PSU 4 GB OCZ PC-6400 DDR2 SDRAM eVGA GeForce 7600 GS 256 MB PCI-e SLI 1 x WD Raptor 10K RPM SATA - 150 GB Other drives: Seagate 320/500/250 SATA 300, Samsung ext 120, Buffalo ext 500 BenQ 1640 BSRB - Shelved BenQ 1655 BCGB @ 1650 BCIC LG GSA H55N 1.00 ViewSonic 19'' widescreen 16:10 LCD For desis My lil blog!

13-01-2003	#3 (permalink)
ExpertTech CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,000	Yes Ive compared DivX 3.11 vs DivX 5 and find that DivX 3.11 is much better than DivX 5. So I would rate the quality as DivX 3.11 > XVID > DivX 5 I usually encode @ 780 - quite sufficient for my captures. __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2 Ghz (400 x 8) Asus P5W Wifi Deluxe AP Asus Silent Square Cooler FSP Group FX 700 GLN 700W PSU 4 GB OCZ PC-6400 DDR2 SDRAM eVGA GeForce 7600 GS 256 MB PCI-e SLI 1 x WD Raptor 10K RPM SATA - 150 GB Other drives: Seagate 320/500/250 SATA 300, Samsung ext 120, Buffalo ext 500 BenQ 1640 BSRB - Shelved BenQ 1655 BCGB @ 1650 BCIC LG GSA H55N 1.00 ViewSonic 19'' widescreen 16:10 LCD For desis My lil blog!

14-01-2003	#6 (permalink)
ExpertTech CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,000	Also, SirDavidGuy, if you could give me some tips on improving quality with XVid (or any link to such site), I would be grateful, coz I always prefer an Open source like XVid vs spyware like DivX n alike __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2 Ghz (400 x 8) Asus P5W Wifi Deluxe AP Asus Silent Square Cooler FSP Group FX 700 GLN 700W PSU 4 GB OCZ PC-6400 DDR2 SDRAM eVGA GeForce 7600 GS 256 MB PCI-e SLI 1 x WD Raptor 10K RPM SATA - 150 GB Other drives: Seagate 320/500/250 SATA 300, Samsung ext 120, Buffalo ext 500 BenQ 1640 BSRB - Shelved BenQ 1655 BCGB @ 1650 BCIC LG GSA H55N 1.00 ViewSonic 19'' widescreen 16:10 LCD For desis My lil blog!

17-01-2003	#8 (permalink)
ExpertTech CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,000	Do you mean to say that XVid is optimal only in two pass? I actually never use two pass - Actually I have lots of average sized files to encode - so 2 pass becomes very machanical method. So is DivX 3.11 better over XVid for 1 pass, CBR? __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.2 Ghz (400 x 8) Asus P5W Wifi Deluxe AP Asus Silent Square Cooler FSP Group FX 700 GLN 700W PSU 4 GB OCZ PC-6400 DDR2 SDRAM eVGA GeForce 7600 GS 256 MB PCI-e SLI 1 x WD Raptor 10K RPM SATA - 150 GB Other drives: Seagate 320/500/250 SATA 300, Samsung ext 120, Buffalo ext 500 BenQ 1640 BSRB - Shelved BenQ 1655 BCGB @ 1650 BCIC LG GSA H55N 1.00 ViewSonic 19'' widescreen 16:10 LCD For desis My lil blog!

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13-01-2003	#2 (permalink)
Wannez The Slutty Professor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,396	The experiences I have with DivX3.11 are limited (I stopped using it somehow). But DivX5 gives me a pretty good feeling about quality and seems to output files very close to the original. It requires some tweaking though; largely depending on the source (resolution, "noise" due to bad VHS tapes or cable, interlaced,..) Have you compared one of your captures -> divx3.11 with capture -> divx5 yet? (from the same sourcefile) I'm very interested in your opinion about that (maybe I'll give 3.11 another chance then ) What resolution do you make your DivX? And bitrate?

14-01-2003	#4 (permalink)
SirDavidGuy CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,467	Hmmm... Interesting, for the kind of settings and source you mentioned, the opposite should be true (at least, for my eyes). Are you using 2-Pass, or straight CBR, because then XviD would perform worse, since it uses a true CBR, not any sort of 1-Pass VBR like DivX 5 and DivX 3.11, when you tell all 3 to perform CBR.