Differences between Pioneer DVD-104 and DVD-A04??? - Club CDFreaks

skawn · 02-08-2002

I can have a Pioneer DVD-104 at £199 but I don't know if it's worth its price...

Can you tell me more about it, its quality, its speed,...

*alexnoe* · 02-08-2002

At this price, you speak about DVR-A04, not DVD....and there's no difference between 104 and A04, besides the name.

good:
2x DVD-R (only 2x certified media, such as Verbatim!)
1x DVD-RW (slower than DVD+RW, but slightly more compatible to DVD-ROMs)
of course, it can't write DVD+R(W).

It's good for burning DVDs (because I prefer DVD-, not DVD+), but not CDs!
- overburn CDs up to 82min only
- can't write to crap cd media
- no RAW-DAO/RAW-SAO
- slow bad-sector-skip
- reads only RAW+16
- 200ms access time

=> £199 is a good price for a dvd writer, but you need an additional good cd writer and an additional reader.

skawn · 03-08-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by alexnoe

=> £199 is a good price for a dvd writer, but you need an additional good cd writer and an additional reader.

I have a Liteon 40x and Liteon DVD-163

And now I would like to buy a DVD writer but I would like to know if the differences between the Pioneer DVR-104 and Pioneer DVR-A04 are big. Because I can still have a Pioneer DVR-104 at £199.

Thnx to answer!

agzz · 03-08-2002

the difference i just the name. maby the a04 have a headphone outlet at the front but im not sure.the important stuff is the same

*sarahjh69* · 04-08-2002

they are exactly the same
apart from the labels printed on the front and top

datasafe dvd-rw at 89p each are perfect for
playing in your liteon 163, every one of my
burns to this media has worked perfectly first time

do not try and save money with bulkcrap or unbranded
dvd-r media.......more trouble than the money you save

Overburner · 06-08-2002

The DVR-A04 is the retail version of the drive, which means that the package includes some extras like burning software.
The DVR-104 I have bought was the bulk version, including only the drive without software, cables or even screws!
Apart form that the drives are exactly the same.

Llama71 · 14-08-2002

Yep Overburner is Correct
One Is OEM And One Is Retail Boxed
Thats All
Regards Llama

*shuss* · 14-08-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by alexnoe
but you need an additional good cd writer and an additional reader.

Whats wrong with using the DVD writer as a reader.

(Also, my mate has DMA enabled for his 104 and it hasn't yet produced a coaster in about 60 DVD burns!

)

*alexnoe* · 14-08-2002

200ms access time is boring. Fast Error Skip is terrible, you need 1h to read a SafeDisc CD. It only supports RAW+16 reading. Key2Audio CDs are not recognised.

*shuss* · 14-08-2002

i thought you meant dvd reading not cd reading ...

*alexnoe* · 14-08-2002

Ah...for DVD reading: CSS-discs and dual layer discs are only read 2x CLV, single layer non-css at 6x. But the access time is still 200ms.

02-08-2002	#1 (permalink)
skawn CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 99	Differences between Pioneer DVD-104 and DVD-A04??? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I can have a Pioneer DVD-104 at £199 but I don't know if it's worth its price... Can you tell me more about it, its quality, its speed,...

02-08-2002	#2 (permalink)
alexnoe CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 4,613	At this price, you speak about DVR-A04, not DVD....and there's no difference between 104 and A04, besides the name. good: 2x DVD-R (only 2x certified media, such as Verbatim!) 1x DVD-RW (slower than DVD+RW, but slightly more compatible to DVD-ROMs) of course, it can't write DVD+R(W). It's good for burning DVDs (because I prefer DVD-, not DVD+), but not CDs! - overburn CDs up to 82min only - can't write to crap cd media - no RAW-DAO/RAW-SAO - slow bad-sector-skip - reads only RAW+16 - 200ms access time => £199 is a good price for a dvd writer, but you need an additional good cd writer and an additional reader. __________________ Asus P4C800E-Deluxe, Win XP, P4/2800 HT, 2048 MB RAM, 600 GB HDD, Plextor PX712/716/755/Premium, LG 4120B, Pioneer A08, Pioneer A09, NEC ND-3540A/4550A ------------------------------------------------ If at first you don't succeed, redefine success! How a troll wants to force users of Linux to buy Windows just to make use of Plextor DVD writer unique functions ------------------------------------------------ PxScan/PxView (compatible to Premium, PX-712, PX-714, PX-716), now with built-in picture file output Bitsetting via Autostart My Blog about DADVSI (new french copyright)

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agzz CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Västerås SWEDEN Posts: 57	104 the difference i just the name. maby the a04 have a headphone outlet at the front but im not sure.the important stuff is the same

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Llama71 New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 7	DVD-R Yep Overburner is Correct One Is OEM And One Is Retail Boxed Thats All Regards Llama __________________ A Bloke Who Burns Cd's

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alexnoe CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 4,613	200ms access time is boring. Fast Error Skip is terrible, you need 1h to read a SafeDisc CD. It only supports RAW+16 reading. Key2Audio CDs are not recognised. __________________ Asus P4C800E-Deluxe, Win XP, P4/2800 HT, 2048 MB RAM, 600 GB HDD, Plextor PX712/716/755/Premium, LG 4120B, Pioneer A08, Pioneer A09, NEC ND-3540A/4550A ------------------------------------------------ If at first you don't succeed, redefine success! How a troll wants to force users of Linux to buy Windows just to make use of Plextor DVD writer unique functions ------------------------------------------------ PxScan/PxView (compatible to Premium, PX-712, PX-714, PX-716), now with built-in picture file output Bitsetting via Autostart My Blog about DADVSI (new french copyright)

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04-08-2002	#5 (permalink)
sarahjh69 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 574	they are exactly the same apart from the labels printed on the front and top datasafe dvd-rw at 89p each are perfect for playing in your liteon 163, every one of my burns to this media has worked perfectly first time do not try and save money with bulkcrap or unbranded dvd-r media.......more trouble than the money you save

06-08-2002	#6 (permalink)
Overburner New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7	The DVR-A04 is the retail version of the drive, which means that the package includes some extras like burning software. The DVR-104 I have bought was the bulk version, including only the drive without software, cables or even screws! Apart form that the drives are exactly the same.

14-08-2002	#10 (permalink)
shuss CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,425	i thought you meant dvd reading not cd reading ...

14-08-2002	#11 (permalink)
alexnoe CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 4,613	Ah...for DVD reading: CSS-discs and dual layer discs are only read 2x CLV, single layer non-css at 6x. But the access time is still 200ms. __________________ Asus P4C800E-Deluxe, Win XP, P4/2800 HT, 2048 MB RAM, 600 GB HDD, Plextor PX712/716/755/Premium, LG 4120B, Pioneer A08, Pioneer A09, NEC ND-3540A/4550A ------------------------------------------------ If at first you don't succeed, redefine success! How a troll wants to force users of Linux to buy Windows just to make use of Plextor DVD writer unique functions ------------------------------------------------ PxScan/PxView (compatible to Premium, PX-712, PX-714, PX-716), now with built-in picture file output Bitsetting via Autostart My Blog about DADVSI (new french copyright)

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