Has no one else tried K-Meleon?

IE Beta 3 7.0.5450.4 here.

Vista 5456 (vista_5456.5.060620-1700_winmain_idx03_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso) is out, by the way.

I haven't used IE in many years, been a firefox user - on linux & windows. For all the people here that say "firefox is slow"... well, it is.... but there are several easy configs you can do to speed it up quite a bit. Also, there's some extensions & add-ons that make it go faster.

google it...

I find Opera better than Firefox, but that's just my opinion.

If Firefox displayed web pages as well as IE does I would gladly use it. I get too many overlapping text lines (one line overlapping the line below it or the column beside it) and odd-looking pages with Firefox. I have been trying for years and hoping. I used to download and try earlier Mozilla versions, some of which could not even display their own home pages as well as IE could, so don't blame it on poorly written web pages. And how about the surprises I get trying to print pages from Firefox? I will keep trying each new major release. My humble 2 pennies worth, Cheers, gamma1

Ever tried Opera? It's Firefox minus the buggy UI and minus being a resource hog.

Opera is fantastic browser!!! I use it all the time.

Just downloaded Opera and I am giving it a try---after a few minutes of browsing I like it better than I ever did Firefox....

I'm not surprised.
Never did see what others saw in Firefox.
Just another option for the me-tooers.

And from my personal experience, Opera is faster than Firefox.

This is what I use right now. IE 7 RC1.

I use them all (ie. IE, Opera, and Firefox), but favor Firefox. Firefox is preferred bec it's a programmable web browser. I've tried Maxthon, which is essentially a custom-programmed version of IE, nevertheless it's strength is also its weakness. We all know of IE's numerous security flaws and that wouldn't be an absolute show-stopper (at least for me) exc that those security flaws are tied into the central weakness of IE: too many tangled interdependencies in the code. So, regardless of whether it's a bit of spyware that slips past the spyware scanner or an internal event queue that simply overflows and hangs the entire system (happens regularly), IE will crap out and sometimes take the entire system w/ it. And MSOFT will never get this right, no matter how long they work on it.

Opera is the best of all, in terms of speed, stability, and quality of rendering, in my tests. Unfortunately, Opera is a commercial pkg and while it doesn't cost a king's ransom, Firefox does a very good job, is free, and Firefox is programmable. What does that mean ?

Many years ago, I read a seminal paper called 'As We My Think' by Vannevar Bush (no relation to the curr US President), FDR's Science Advisor. He wrote the paper near the end of WWII, presenting ideas about how scientists might proceed in the post-war era, given the rapid advances in basic and applied sciences during the war years. The centerpiece of this paper was a research tool he called the memex. Bush's memex was an electro-mechnical desk, which would organize/manage distinct threads of research pulled from many different sources. At the time, he could only imagine crude video, microfilm, and wire recordings. However, I never forgot the article (it's still available on the Web) and have gimmicked up Firefox so that it vaguely resembles Bush's memex. When I launch Firefox, I get four instances of the browser, each containing multiple tabs organized around my current interest areas: media, general-purps tech forums (fora), hacking, and academic research (encyclopedia.) One day, I plan to build this out even further, so I can expand the range of this persistent web browsing environment, beyond the boundaries of my primary workstation and to encompass persistent information about and access to all of the media I've collected.

In summary, I'd never suggest that anyone should abandon IE, but consider what might be done by thinking outside the box for a minute....Jet

Interesting information!!! thanks!!!

Maxthon makes IE worth using.

use opera, it loads pages faster than a rabbit gets f#####d.

That type of language is not acceptable on this forum.

With all the talk on ZD Net about Microsoft is only one reinstall of Vista, I think I will try Linux with codeweaver. Not free but a lot cheaper than new prices for Vista that will probably crash within one month and then Microsoft will say tough luck buy a new copy and the prices are way out of line. So ability to use IE will not be worth it, I have been following ZD Net about this for awhile now and they posted the new license agreement.

Mack

Microsoft is just evil.

I feel like I'm STUCK with Windows as a platform. But I'm never going to pay another dime for any other Microsoft product if I can help it, and that means Office, Games, Mice, etc.

This move with Vista is just junk. If you are forced to pay for that OS, you should be able to move it from one machine to another as many times as you want, provided yo udo truly move it and not copy it.

I freakin' HATE Microsoft's stuipd corporate policies, full of greed - scumbags.

I and most of ZD Net's feel the same way. Microsoft has never made a product that did not have problems. At first they were going to allow 1 move to another machine with 1 reinstall, but they removed that and limited that 1 machine with 1 reinstall if it crashes or you replace too many parts. They plan for big companies to make what I call throw away computers that cannot be upgraded. The more that I read the more I see more products going to Linux or Unix. The kicker is they plan to sell it to some countries for about $50.00 verses 3-4 hundred dollars in US for full versions.

Mack

I've never had any issues with IE. As far as being hijacked, malware, etc goes, that's what firewalls and antivirus etc are for. Mind you, I didn't use it too often at all until v.7 came out, which I really like, esp. the tabs (see screenshot if you've never seen it) What I used mostly was (drumroll please) AOL. (I can hear the groans from here) I always found it to have the simplest/best email (I have yet to get more than 2 spams a week) and I adore the toolbar carousel, which allows me the quickest access to my most frequented sites. As far as speed goes, I find it a moot point, as at 16mbs download speed, the differences are barely noticeable

I imagine this post will generate some opinions...

I think Firefox is as thin as a Cats Cock, and about as useful as one in a snowstorm. It takes a hell of a long time to open, and even with that Fasterfox extention its still takes nearly 10 seconds to open a page sometimes. Christ, I could have took a shit made a coffee and had a piss in that time

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Suppor...efoxMyths.html

There is only 1 browser left. Come to the Opera side....it is your destiny!

For me it's IE and only IE. Who cares about the so called Spyware/virus thing as I have Symantec Goback and also use XP system retore if I have a problem which I haven't yet and I've been using IE since the early days of it's existance. Too many sites still run on IE only and I find it easier to jsut stay with it. I find it faster and more convenient in features and speed. I tried Firefox and just don't care for it and Opera was a bust in my opinion from day 1.

Until FF can look like this:

I won't use it. FF just don't do full screen right.