eXotic dUck

ummm dude, wtf "how much do you think they will do to fix something that is free"

they are both free?

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But one is open source the other is MICROSHIT and all billy wants to know is how money he can "F" you out of!!! You can all so see how bad a product is by how many Security holes it has and IE is the worst with that.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...l/default.mspx
And those are just the one they want to admit too.

Jack_Hammerx

Micsrosoft XD
Dude, first IE wasn't free only when other companys started bringing out there explorers for free did MS give IE out for free, also they bought up a company that was selling a better explorer (that they were also giving out free) and they didn't even change theres for the better using the company they bought up, typical MS.

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Knightime

I am a FF user. It is an excellent browser for many reasons. Personal preferance is a big reason, but there are others that I won't bother to try and convince anyone of; try it for yourself.
I am not sure, but I didn't see any mention of portable FF. At work, the admins have IE loaded and that's the only browser installed on our workstations. I put portable FF on my USB Flash Drive, applied several pipeline changes, turned off caching, cookies, etc. Now I can use FF at work with all it's neat features, like Web Developer, Weather, Skins, etc.

Carlitos

Here's something that will really speed up
Firefox:

1.Type "about:config" into the address bar and hit return.
Scroll down and look for the following entries:
network.http.pipelining
network.http.proxy.pipelining
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests
Normally the browser will make one request to a web page at a
time. When you enable pipelining it will make several at once,
which really speeds up page loading.

2. Alter the entries as follows:
Set "network.http.pipelining" to "true"
Set "network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true"
Set "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to some number like 30.
This means it will make 30 requests at once.

3. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer. Name
it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This
value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts
on information it receives. If you're using a broadband
connection you'll load pages MUCH faster now!

spooks

I just learned this trick a week or so ago... (changing the pipelining options). Works nicely I must say...

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crispy51

I found many people raving about Firefox, so I thought I'd give it a try. After three days of experimenting with many extensions, I got what I thought was a good product, I even had the tabs working as well as NetCaptor, but there were a couple of niggles.

When entering text in panels such as this, the cursor was jittery and disappeared every now and then. It also couldn't cope correctly with the use of BBCode. Bugs spotted some months before, but nobody semed to feel they were important enough to do anything about. That in itself probably wouldn't have turned me against it, but what happened yesterday was the last straw.

Together with my wife, I spent more than three hours completing an online mortgage application, that went on for about fifteen long pages. We got to the last page that contained one single Java controlled SUBMIT button. I clicked it many times and tried refreshing, but nothing happened.

Luckily I could bring each of the previous pages back up using the back arrow, and duplicated the entries using NetCaptor. Finally, the SUBMIT button worked just fine in NC and all was again fine, but it certainly made up my mind about Firefox.

Regards,
Chris P

ckin2001

did you install java before you tried to use it?

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Which by the way you would have to do with IE too.

Vcas

With all the talk about FF,IE,opera... I've been useing Netscape for about 10 yrs now and I think It's just fine!! Am I missing something?
Netscape seems secure, ( I've never herd of any issues) and along with Zone alarm,spybot and addaware ,... on cable,...I feel I'm doin ok. Just waiting for all the bugs to leave, and Netscape 8.0 is next.

PC-GUY

Netscape at one time was a great browser but anything AOL touches turns to shit.

jimmybob

Firefox is the best IMHO. I love tabbed browsing, have not seen a popup in what seems like forever, and with us poor dialup users it is much faster. IE big security issue is basically because of active-x, which allows a outside user complete control over your computer if you install their script.But you still need IE for updates(oh well cant have it all).

GlamRocker

I personally blame the users for most browser problems, if your stupid enough to click on accept buttons and the likes on websites then you deserve all you get.

As for browsers, i use Opera mostly (like those mouse gestures).

revgen

I can't understand all the people who say that Internet Explorer is faster than Firefox.

I have a 3000 kbps downstream cable connection and I've yet to find a difference between the two.

Maybe it's because I cleared the cache and temp files from both browsers before I tested. A browser that is already being used will have an advantage over a new browser if the cache files are being used to speed up the process.

matrixunloaded

Why I still prefer IE6:

1) Firefox browser has awkward appearance and ugly interface, poor aesthetics and ergonomic design.

2) FF doesn't seem to handle columns or tables very well, which is why with the FF browser, the text often gets cut off on many webpages that use columns/table for text. Meaning you can't read all the text on many websites because it gets cut off from the rest of the page.

3) Security isn't much of an issue as I use hardware and software firewall.


Unless they can improve the ergonomcis and the interface of FF, as well as fix the awful table-handling issues, I will stick with IE6.

Firefox at this point is simply overrated. The only thing it does well is security. But it's inferior to IE6 at everything else.

BruceR

Hi all, I just downloaded FF and am yet to try it out. All I really wanted to do was unlock my Liteon 812s region codes. Reading here about IE and FF I dunno if I should dump IE or not. Keep the fors and againsts comming, I may be convinced to go or to stay.

dvdfreax

i gotta say mozilla is way better...i dumped IE a loong time ago.

Razor1982

it's interface is fast and easy - and there are many themes out there which make it look much better than the original them... you can also easily customize several things in it...


there is a difference between what IE makes out of fautly site-code and what FF does... and FF is much more accurate (also when it comes to CSS)

this is definitely not what makes a browser more or less secure - what does the best firewall protect, if your browser, that has unlimited access to the internet, is gettin hijacked or install's a malware without notifiying you...

no

pipemanid

@Razor1982 - I agree with everything you presented as a rebuttal to matrixunloaded but I'm not sure if it's due to your facts or I have been hypnotized by your avatar.
Another proud FF user.

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drpino

well rebutted Razor1982.

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There is no good reason not to switch to Firefox. However, you may need to use IE for some poorly coded websites.

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There are a few sites that FF can't handle (National lottery -UK for example), but there are less and less all the time.
I use FF for 99% of the time now but the family still use IE mostly. FF is default though so they probably don't even notice most of the time which they're on.

There's no reason not to use both. If I ever have a problem with a site there's an extension called IEView. Just right click on the link and it opens the page in IE.

Tabbed browsing rules ok Why IE doesn't have it now is just plain lazy on MS part!

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Carlitos: Theres an extension available called "tweak network settings" that does it for you on the tools menu. Dead easy.

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icey

As per the above, I use FF latest build for the most part, but it does not work with so many sites, which also as stated, is because they code for IE and not to spec. I also found blankshop.com in the UK does not work properly, or at all if you try and browse the site, so even for media I have to go back to IE.

DaneR

Works for me

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