Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer - Club CD Freaks

cerberus · 26-09-2004

http://channels.lockergnome.com/news...explorer.phtml

Stoner · 26-09-2004

No matter how solid the evidence of IE's inferiority, it still won't change all the die hard J6P's mind about IE's compatibility and superiority over all other browsers.

packetloss · 26-09-2004

Well, you won't trim those nasty eyebrows either...

That's very on topic btw.

Stoner · 26-09-2004

Back off IE fanboy, don't make me sic debro on your ass.

packetloss · 26-09-2004

I don't use IE, I just trim my eyebrows now and then.

Chriso · 26-09-2004

IE sucks, Mozilla Firefox rules. I could stay here all day writing a list of advantages.

merther02 · 28-09-2004

Firefox is too slow, Internet Explorer is a classic, no gives a flying fuck if it lets hackers in i have firewall hardware and software.

Airhead · 28-09-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by merther02

Firefox is too slow

*cough*
Yeah IE is so much faster

**xtacydima** · 28-09-2004

OK, all this ranting about FireFox, I didn't want to be a hypocrite, so I donwloaded and tried it.

It's not so bad, but I too noticed its slower than IE, much slower... and I'm on cable!!!

Further I tried that ad-block add-in, and I found out you have to basically ad-block things as you go along, all it does is keep track (in a list I presume) of ads that you over time tell it to block. Kinda reminds me of my own list from my spyware research, not very efficient IMO. I also didn't like that it didn't automatically open new windows in new tabs, a feature I actually liked in Opera. So far Opera was the fastest browser I had used, IE second fastest, and I have no idea where to place FireFox other than 3rd in the list as of now.

Anyway, I gave it a go, today is the 3rd day its on my machine, and its getting uninstalled after I finish my rounds here on the forums. I can see how some like its customization options, but its otherwise slow on a cable line and I found that quite dissapointing.

Stoner · 28-09-2004

Sometimes I wonder if xtacy's using the same version of FireFox as the rest of the world. Whatd Ad-Block extension are you talking about? FF comes w/ its own pop-up blocker and handles all sorts of ads very well, and w/o training.

All I can say is your mind's tainted by IE and very very bias towards FF.

ckin2001 · 28-09-2004

my internet experiences :

internet explorer - used for a few years. still do when required for some sites. slowest load times, least useful features built in. absolutely no tabbing mechanism supported. more exploitable than paris hilton. no easy place to go to find new features to add into the browser.

opera - preferred browser. tabbed windows by default. opens a new tab for downloads, so i can pause/view/find them easily, without separate popup windows for each. slightly faster than internet explorer on load times. poor javascript support (which may be because of javascript optimized for internet explorer). no central place for add ins again.

firefox - probable browser of the future. fastest by far. sorry xtacy, but im 99 % sure that it is. have you customized internet explorer at all? how about firefox? there are a lot of options for it that you have CONTROL over. i like control

. for more info on that, google for about:config hacks

firefox also has the easiest plugin system i've seen. right now, i have foxytunes, weatherfox, and adblock running in the status bar. it can open new windows in tab (try clicking with the scrollwheel), although not doing it by a left click annoys the sh*t out of me. download manager is a good start. the find behavior, while simple, is something that just makes sense. press control-f in internet explorer, opera, and then firefox. see where they pop up.

firefox hasnt converted me yet, as i've used opera for 3+ years, and opera behaves exactly the same on every operating system i have. but its getting better every day.

**xtacydima** · 28-09-2004

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Originally Posted by Stoner

Sometimes I wonder if xtacy's using the same version of FireFox as the rest of the world. Whatd Ad-Block extension are you talking about? FF comes w/ its own pop-up blocker and handles all sorts of ads very well, and w/o training.

All I can say is your mind's tainted by IE and very very bias towards FF.

If I had a bias why would I admit to liking Opera. I am actually very open and try many new sofwtares, I even set up a bitch machine just for software trials.
I used the ad blocker plug-in to block ads, not pop-ups. I googled for it, and I used latest FireFox version from http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

@ckin
I left default settings and removed the google search bar, I tried it in default installation form to make it a fair comparison t other softwar ethat install with all defaults.
I agree, Opera is preferred, for all the same exact reasons you mentioned,I use IE simply cause its there and I don't ned to install Opera on every new machine I go to.

As far as speed is concerned, FF wa sslowest, I dunno why, I was rather dissapointed after everything I read about it here, but if you need to customize it for a speed boost, wtf, whow anst extar work like that, if default settings arent optimized running the thing, that alone is a negative aspect of the software IMO.

ckin2001 · 28-09-2004

adblock is the highest rated extension for firefox, and has been around since .8, if not before. the popup blocker doesnt do anything for inpage ads.

something that would be fun for inpage ads, provided its not your machine, is http://www.evilscheme.org/defcon/

**xtacydima** · 28-09-2004

I do not remember which ad-blocker I used for in-page ads, but I think its the same you just provided a link for.

If I see myself switching to any browser outside of IE, it would be Opera.

Razor1982 · 28-09-2004

hm, call me outdated, but i like using IE (on my 56k connection)...

ok, i must say i never tried another browser, because the time that i might win by a browser speeding up loading of sites i spend twice for downloading firefox...

and i need IE in some way, just to sync' all my favorites with my pocket pc...

and so far i never had prob's of being "hacked" or whatever - i don't know where you surf all the day but the sites i visit are not that "underground"...

ckin2001 · 28-09-2004

my roommate googled for something, clicked a link, and his computer was completely owned. it was hilarious. he has since reformatted, and uses firefox now.

adaware went from 0 to 300 + buggers on it.

edit - i like this discussion. its a sticky. less flamebait, more reasons to switch/not to switch/extensions/addons plz.

Razor1982 · 28-09-2004

a bit offtopic but i thing it is funny how people start running away instead of better controlling theirself...

yeh, ppl are hacking IE 'coz 95% of i-net users use it...
then, there are alternatives - firefox, opera and so on... ppl say they are more safe...

and just few weeks ago i read news that opera hase security issues and that a new version was released to make it "safe" again....

so i ask myself: if i have to download a complete new version of a browser to make it safe for the moment, or i can just click on windows-update and get the latest patches, which have not more filesize than the new browser-version, what is better for me?

i think it's just a question of time 'til hackers find special ways to "hack" other browsers, only at the moment it is just not worth the work for them...

ckin2001 · 28-09-2004

I have to agree with you there - the lack of update patches and autoupdating is holding the other browsers back.

**xtacydima** · 28-09-2004

Has anyone ever tried the browser in older Winamp 2.x versions. It was cool, just a thin tiny window and all web page, with like barely any options. I guess Ijust liked the way it looked.

Razor1982 · 28-09-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtacydima

Has anyone ever tried the browser in older Winamp 2.x versions. It was cool, just a thin tiny window and all web page, with like barely any options. I guess Ijust liked the way it looked.

yeah, i tried it once a long time ago...

but i didn't find the place to enter an URL...

ckin2001 · 29-09-2004

if you get bored with opera -> f11 = fullscreen

Razor1982 · 29-09-2004

like IE...

**Jesterrace** · 29-09-2004

I am using the latest FF and I have to agree that for the most part it is superior to IE in every way. There is no denying that you still have to have IE on some occassions but by and large you are definitely better of with FF. As for the pop-up blocker issues, I have to concur with everyone else here, FF has one of the best pop-up blockers I have seen. A number of other pop-up blockers can screw things up with sites, but this one seems to have a great knack for picking out what is useful and what isn't. The other great thing is that a number of other pop-up blockers can interferre with spyware removal programs. This one does not. As for speed. Maybe it is just a little bit slower but I have to say that each time I notice it running slow, I quickly hop on IE and 99% of the time, it is running slow too. So the speed issue really doesn't have to do with the browser itself. Opera is a great browser but unless you want to fork out $30-$40 for it, you get a version with an ad banner.

Razor1982 · 29-09-2004

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As for the pop-up blocker issues, I have to concur with everyone else here, FF has one of the best pop-up blockers I have seen.

before SP2 for XP i used the google-toolbar to block popups in IE, since SP2 installed i just use the new integrated popup blocker, and, at least for me, it works great...
never had problems with it until now...

Clany · 29-09-2004

Dunno why some people say Firefox is slow or its worser then IE (loool, ROFL, *clinmbs a wall*)

The first thing also it is not that great (but i think its great) is the tabbed browsing switched one year ago to firefox and cant live without that feature anymore lol.
Second Thing is the very easy to handle popupblocker (no stupid bar that doesnt fit in your browser because its a ugly thing from the start lol)
When something doesnt get blocked you can manually block them.
Ok the third Thing is that Firefox is faster then IE in many ways.
IE has a short time before you get an timeout when a server is at its limit or has a high ping.
When you cant get on a website strg+F5 works (not like in IE where you hit it 1000 times and everytime get the same response lol.
OK the next Thing is the vulnerability from IE and from Firefox sure every browser has its vulnerable point and yeah 100% security is a unreal and childish dream lol.
IE is so vulnerable because the most people never used other browsers so the scriptkiddies concentrate mostly on the popular thing.
Firefox is maybe not perfect but in many ways superior to IE (i liked IE but at the point where i got tons of trash on the PC is simply switched to firefox)
You know the most crap you can get without notice comes through IE (dialers trojans etc etc) and thats not a subjective view its simply the way it goes.

Another great thing is the community who develops tools plugins and extensions and the variable skins usage.

ITs simpler to modify the Firefox for the own usage then to make IE comfortable.

26-09-2004	#1 (permalink)
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Stoner CD Freaks Troll Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Home of Al-Qaida Posts: 2,358	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer No matter how solid the evidence of IE's inferiority, it still won't change all the die hard J6P's mind about IE's compatibility and superiority over all other browsers. __________________ Only Jews Can Stop Forest Fire! - Smokey The Rabbi

26-09-2004	#3 (permalink)
packetloss CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,193	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer Well, you won't trim those nasty eyebrows either... That's very on topic btw.

26-09-2004	#4 (permalink)
Stoner CD Freaks Troll Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Home of Al-Qaida Posts: 2,358	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer Back off IE fanboy, don't make me sic debro on your ass. __________________ Only Jews Can Stop Forest Fire! - Smokey The Rabbi

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packetloss CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,193	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer I don't use IE, I just trim my eyebrows now and then.

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merther02 CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Your moms bed - UK Posts: 1,371	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer Firefox is too slow, Internet Explorer is a classic, no gives a flying fuck if it lets hackers in i have firewall hardware and software. __________________ Specs: 2000mb ddr2 ram, 19" TFT Monitor, Amd Athlon XP 3500+ X2 Creative Labs 7.1 THX Gigaworks S570, GeforceFX 7900 GT 512mb DDR3 RAM, Creative Audigy 2 7.1 ZS, Toshiba DVD-ROM, Plextor Premium 52x32x52 nForce something-or-other, 2 HDD 300gb RAID click here to join cdfreaks Never forget your ABCD, Alcohol 120%, BlindWrite, CloneCD, Daemon Tools

28-09-2004	#9 (permalink)
xtacydima Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,794	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer OK, all this ranting about FireFox, I didn't want to be a hypocrite, so I donwloaded and tried it. It's not so bad, but I too noticed its slower than IE, much slower... and I'm on cable!!! Further I tried that ad-block add-in, and I found out you have to basically ad-block things as you go along, all it does is keep track (in a list I presume) of ads that you over time tell it to block. Kinda reminds me of my own list from my spyware research, not very efficient IMO. I also didn't like that it didn't automatically open new windows in new tabs, a feature I actually liked in Opera. So far Opera was the fastest browser I had used, IE second fastest, and I have no idea where to place FireFox other than 3rd in the list as of now. Anyway, I gave it a go, today is the 3rd day its on my machine, and its getting uninstalled after I finish my rounds here on the forums. I can see how some like its customization options, but its otherwise slow on a cable line and I found that quite dissapointing. __________________ My Rig: Antec P160 P4 3.0E GHz running WinXP w/SP2 Scythe SCMN-1000 Heatsink w/Arctic Silver 5 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 (550W power supply) ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Motherboard 2GB RAM - Corsair XMS TWINX2048 (2x1GB) 3200C2Pro CL2.0 ATI RADEON X850XT AGP 2 - WD 37GB Raptor's (in RAID 0) via onboard Promise controller Western Digital 250GB SATA HDD on Primary SATA channel Western Digital 150GB SATA HDD on Secondary SATA channel Lite-On LTR-52246S 6S0F (IDE1 Master) Lite-On JLMS XJ-HD166S DS1C (IDE1 Slave) *NEC 3500AG 2.TC Quiet* (IDE2 Master) Lite-On SOHW 1673S JS07 (via USB 2.0 to IDE & set to Master)** Found a Solution here helpful? Like the forum's? Well then, what are you waiting for JOIN NOW!!!

28-09-2004	#10 (permalink)
Stoner CD Freaks Troll Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Home of Al-Qaida Posts: 2,358	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer Sometimes I wonder if xtacy's using the same version of FireFox as the rest of the world. Whatd Ad-Block extension are you talking about? FF comes w/ its own pop-up blocker and handles all sorts of ads very well, and w/o training. All I can say is your mind's tainted by IE and very very bias towards FF. __________________ Only Jews Can Stop Forest Fire! - Smokey The Rabbi

28-09-2004	#11 (permalink)
ckin2001 CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Strongbadia Posts: 3,408	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer my internet experiences : internet explorer - used for a few years. still do when required for some sites. slowest load times, least useful features built in. absolutely no tabbing mechanism supported. more exploitable than paris hilton. no easy place to go to find new features to add into the browser. opera - preferred browser. tabbed windows by default. opens a new tab for downloads, so i can pause/view/find them easily, without separate popup windows for each. slightly faster than internet explorer on load times. poor javascript support (which may be because of javascript optimized for internet explorer). no central place for add ins again. firefox - probable browser of the future. fastest by far. sorry xtacy, but im 99 % sure that it is. have you customized internet explorer at all? how about firefox? there are a lot of options for it that you have CONTROL over. i like control . for more info on that, google for about:config hacks firefox also has the easiest plugin system i've seen. right now, i have foxytunes, weatherfox, and adblock running in the status bar. it can open new windows in tab (try clicking with the scrollwheel), although not doing it by a left click annoys the sh*t out of me. download manager is a good start. the find behavior, while simple, is something that just makes sense. press control-f in internet explorer, opera, and then firefox. see where they pop up. firefox hasnt converted me yet, as i've used opera for 3+ years, and opera behaves exactly the same on every operating system i have. but its getting better every day. __________________ www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org last 5 cd's Avril Lavigne - Whatever the new one is called Lucky Boys Confusion - Throwing the Game lostprophets - Start Something Story of the Year - Page Avenue Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Don't let schooling interfere with your education. -Mark Twain

28-09-2004	#13 (permalink)
ckin2001 CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Strongbadia Posts: 3,408	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer adblock is the highest rated extension for firefox, and has been around since .8, if not before. the popup blocker doesnt do anything for inpage ads. something that would be fun for inpage ads, provided its not your machine, is http://www.evilscheme.org/defcon/ __________________ www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org last 5 cd's Avril Lavigne - Whatever the new one is called Lucky Boys Confusion - Throwing the Game lostprophets - Start Something Story of the Year - Page Avenue Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Don't let schooling interfere with your education. -Mark Twain

28-09-2004	#14 (permalink)
xtacydima Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,794	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer I do not remember which ad-blocker I used for in-page ads, but I think its the same you just provided a link for. If I see myself switching to any browser outside of IE, it would be Opera. __________________ My Rig: Antec P160 P4 3.0E GHz running WinXP w/SP2 Scythe SCMN-1000 Heatsink w/Arctic Silver 5 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 (550W power supply) ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Motherboard 2GB RAM - Corsair XMS TWINX2048 (2x1GB) 3200C2Pro CL2.0 ATI RADEON X850XT AGP 2 - WD 37GB Raptor's (in RAID 0) via onboard Promise controller Western Digital 250GB SATA HDD on Primary SATA channel Western Digital 150GB SATA HDD on Secondary SATA channel Lite-On LTR-52246S 6S0F (IDE1 Master) Lite-On JLMS XJ-HD166S DS1C (IDE1 Slave) *NEC 3500AG 2.TC Quiet* (IDE2 Master) Lite-On SOHW 1673S JS07 (via USB 2.0 to IDE & set to Master)** Found a Solution here helpful? Like the forum's? Well then, what are you waiting for JOIN NOW!!!

28-09-2004	#15 (permalink)
Razor1982 CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,485	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer hm, call me outdated, but i like using IE (on my 56k connection)... ok, i must say i never tried another browser, because the time that i might win by a browser speeding up loading of sites i spend twice for downloading firefox... and i need IE in some way, just to sync' all my favorites with my pocket pc... and so far i never had prob's of being "hacked" or whatever - i don't know where you surf all the day but the sites i visit are not that "underground"...

28-09-2004	#16 (permalink)
ckin2001 CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Strongbadia Posts: 3,408	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer my roommate googled for something, clicked a link, and his computer was completely owned. it was hilarious. he has since reformatted, and uses firefox now. adaware went from 0 to 300 + buggers on it. edit - i like this discussion. its a sticky. less flamebait, more reasons to switch/not to switch/extensions/addons plz. __________________ www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org last 5 cd's Avril Lavigne - Whatever the new one is called Lucky Boys Confusion - Throwing the Game lostprophets - Start Something Story of the Year - Page Avenue Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Don't let schooling interfere with your education. -Mark Twain

28-09-2004	#17 (permalink)
Razor1982 CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,485	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer a bit offtopic but i thing it is funny how people start running away instead of better controlling theirself... yeh, ppl are hacking IE 'coz 95% of i-net users use it... then, there are alternatives - firefox, opera and so on... ppl say they are more safe... and just few weeks ago i read news that opera hase security issues and that a new version was released to make it "safe" again.... so i ask myself: if i have to download a complete new version of a browser to make it safe for the moment, or i can just click on windows-update and get the latest patches, which have not more filesize than the new browser-version, what is better for me? i think it's just a question of time 'til hackers find special ways to "hack" other browsers, only at the moment it is just not worth the work for them...

28-09-2004	#18 (permalink)
ckin2001 CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Strongbadia Posts: 3,408	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer I have to agree with you there - the lack of update patches and autoupdating is holding the other browsers back. __________________ www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org last 5 cd's Avril Lavigne - Whatever the new one is called Lucky Boys Confusion - Throwing the Game lostprophets - Start Something Story of the Year - Page Avenue Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Don't let schooling interfere with your education. -Mark Twain

28-09-2004	#19 (permalink)
xtacydima Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,794	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer Has anyone ever tried the browser in older Winamp 2.x versions. It was cool, just a thin tiny window and all web page, with like barely any options. I guess Ijust liked the way it looked. __________________ My Rig: Antec P160 P4 3.0E GHz running WinXP w/SP2 Scythe SCMN-1000 Heatsink w/Arctic Silver 5 Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 (550W power supply) ASUS P4C800 Deluxe Motherboard 2GB RAM - Corsair XMS TWINX2048 (2x1GB) 3200C2Pro CL2.0 ATI RADEON X850XT AGP 2 - WD 37GB Raptor's (in RAID 0) via onboard Promise controller Western Digital 250GB SATA HDD on Primary SATA channel Western Digital 150GB SATA HDD on Secondary SATA channel Lite-On LTR-52246S 6S0F (IDE1 Master) Lite-On JLMS XJ-HD166S DS1C (IDE1 Slave) *NEC 3500AG 2.TC Quiet* (IDE2 Master) Lite-On SOHW 1673S JS07 (via USB 2.0 to IDE & set to Master)** Found a Solution here helpful? Like the forum's? Well then, what are you waiting for JOIN NOW!!!

29-09-2004	#21 (permalink)
ckin2001 CD Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Strongbadia Posts: 3,408	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer if you get bored with opera -> f11 = fullscreen __________________ www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org last 5 cd's Avril Lavigne - Whatever the new one is called Lucky Boys Confusion - Throwing the Game lostprophets - Start Something Story of the Year - Page Avenue Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Don't let schooling interfere with your education. -Mark Twain

29-09-2004	#22 (permalink)
Razor1982 CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,485	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer like IE...

29-09-2004	#23 (permalink)
Jesterrace Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,395	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer I am using the latest FF and I have to agree that for the most part it is superior to IE in every way. There is no denying that you still have to have IE on some occassions but by and large you are definitely better of with FF. As for the pop-up blocker issues, I have to concur with everyone else here, FF has one of the best pop-up blockers I have seen. A number of other pop-up blockers can screw things up with sites, but this one seems to have a great knack for picking out what is useful and what isn't. The other great thing is that a number of other pop-up blockers can interferre with spyware removal programs. This one does not. As for speed. Maybe it is just a little bit slower but I have to say that each time I notice it running slow, I quickly hop on IE and 99% of the time, it is running slow too. So the speed issue really doesn't have to do with the browser itself. Opera is a great browser but unless you want to fork out $30-$40 for it, you get a version with an ad banner.

29-09-2004	#25 (permalink)
Clany CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 445	Re: Why You Should Dump Internet Explorer Dunno why some people say Firefox is slow or its worser then IE (loool, ROFL, clinmbs a wall) The first thing also it is not that great (but i think its great) is the tabbed browsing switched one year ago to firefox and cant live without that feature anymore lol. Second Thing is the very easy to handle popupblocker (no stupid bar that doesnt fit in your browser because its a ugly thing from the start lol) When something doesnt get blocked you can manually block them. Ok the third Thing is that Firefox is faster then IE in many ways. IE has a short time before you get an timeout when a server is at its limit or has a high ping. When you cant get on a website strg+F5 works (not like in IE where you hit it 1000 times and everytime get the same response lol. OK the next Thing is the vulnerability from IE and from Firefox sure every browser has its vulnerable point and yeah 100% security is a unreal and childish dream lol. IE is so vulnerable because the most people never used other browsers so the scriptkiddies concentrate mostly on the popular thing. Firefox is maybe not perfect but in many ways superior to IE (i liked IE but at the point where i got tons of trash on the PC is simply switched to firefox) You know the most crap you can get without notice comes through IE (dialers trojans etc etc) and thats not a subjective view its simply the way it goes. Another great thing is the community who develops tools plugins and extensions and the variable skins usage. ITs simpler to modify the Firefox for the own usage then to make IE comfortable.

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