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General Software Discuss, UDF and InCD at International Chat: Software related forum; Hi all, I recently reformatted my hard drive and installed everything again. This also included Nero 7 and InCD. Yesterday, i tried using a UDF DVD disc that I created on my office machine using Nero (albeit older 6.6 something). This disc was recognized fine and dandy in my


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Old 13-12-2005   #1 (permalink)
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UDF and InCD

Hi all,

I recently reformatted my hard drive and installed everything again. This also included Nero 7 and InCD. Yesterday, i tried using a UDF DVD disc that I created on my office machine using Nero (albeit older 6.6 something). This disc was recognized fine and dandy in my office comp, but my home comp would not show me the contents. I thought that my drive was conked or something so i downloaded Isobuster and installed it. Well, it showed me the contents on the DVD. However I was unable to extract the ISO since it asked for registration. So I thought maybe somethings wrong with the disc and I tried using a DVD that you get with the computer gaming magazine and it didn't work as well!
I did a lot of googling and came up with nothing about this. As a fluke, I just uninstalled InCD and restarted the comp with the disc still in the drive. Well, the DVD disc worked without any issues after the restart.
So this only points to InCD being responsible in some manner for this strange issue. I dunno what happened exactly... but maybe someone out here can explain this better to me. It surely was annoying, though!!

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You came up with nothing when googling? Really?

InCD (and UDF in general) are garbage.
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Old 14-12-2005   #3 (permalink)
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No.... i did turn up with this

http://support.microsoft.com/default...EN-US;Q321640&

but it didn't help me in any manner other than letting me know that Windows XP has some problem reading UDF discs, and the link for the Roxio UDF reader on the page doesn't work... so there.
What I'd really like to know is what InCD does.... I mean.. is it useful (guessing from my experience, I'd rather stay away from it) and why did my comp behave strangely just because InCD was installed?

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InCD and other packet writing softwares like it let you use a cd-rw or a dvd-/+rw like it was a giant floppy disk. you can basically have a drive letter and have folders and add and remove files same as you would a hard drive, flash drive or floppy disk. In therory, the idea sounds pretty good but in practice, I have yet to hear of one that works well. The software is always pinging the drive to see if you have inserted an appropriately formated disk which can interupt other programs use of the drive and it also tends to try to take control of the drive preventing other programs from using it.

I am yet to have heard of any similar packet writing software that works very well, and based on your experience, it sounds like current versions are the same as all the older versions I have tired. I never even install incd with nero anymore.
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So it seems that I'm better off without InCD installed in my comp. And here I was blaming my trusty ol' Lite-On!!! Whatever got into my head?? Thx for the help guys. My opinion.... Nero's good, but InCD needs a lot of work before I go and install it on my computer again...

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It's not just InCD. InCD is actually THE BEST of the packet-writing programs! How horrifying is that?
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Hi,

InCD's the best????? Other guys make packet writing software that's worse than InCD??? But how come, the burning software gets a new update (with an increase in the dollar amount too ) but the packet-writing software remains sh***y..... ? I guess no-one's paying attention to the reason why packet-writing was introduced in the first place....

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I'm just guessing but I think it is a flaw in the entire principle of this kind of packet writing software. They are suposed to make an rw disk like a big floppy disk. As soon as you insert an appropriately formated disk, it is accessable and useable, just like with a floppy or other removable media. The problem is, with an optical drive, the only way that you can do this is for the software to check every time the dirve does something to see if you inserted a disk formated for packet writing. Thats the only way it can auto load the disk like it does. Problem is that it's constant checking of the drive can interfere with other software using the dirve. I think it would be beter for the user to manually load the disk (not the physical disk, but enable the software to work with it). That kind of defeats the purpose of it being automatic though. It's therefor inherintlly flawed and cannot be fixed.
Thats just my guess based on what I have heard but I could be wrong.
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That may be true, ripit.... but AFAIK the packet-writing principle has been around since the time of the CD-RW (please correct me if I am wrong) and with the behavior of DVD-RW/+RW in terms of reusable optical storage offered plenty of avenues for software manufacturers such as Ahead to plug the holes of the packet-writing principle. I guess... that as long as the burning software works properly no one pays heed to what packet writing is. More like a disowned child treatment from software manufacturers. But then can it be possible that the way Windows handles storage may also be responsible for this? Is this packet writing principle also available\applicable for Linux? (I am sorry if this sounds like a stupid question )

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