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| Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 Since I've had this computer (MSI K8T Neo2, Athlon 3200+ Winchester, WIndows XP Pro US + SP3) I haven't been able to use Word 2003. Whenever I use it, after some time (1 minute... 30 minutes, 2 hours?) the computer just reboots. I already reinstalled the computer twice (with all the Windows and office updates) but that didn't do any good. With my former system (identical hardware, besides of the mainboard and CPU) I did not have any problem with Word at all. Other Office components work just fine. I don't have a clue where to look. My system is really stable (never have any problems, had uptimes of more than 2 weeks under heavy usage, even when overclocked). It's just Word 2003 that doesn't work. Who can help me?
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 i guess you didnt have a good look at that , a subscription indeed costs money however every thread in that forum found in google can be seen without payin nothin just scroll down and youll see im right |
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 Have you checked the Event Viewer log for any entries that might be relevant?
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 hi; I haven't followed the exp-ex link to see what it says...and I haven't used Word, since Word '97 One thing I recall being an issue was the Auto-Save feature every 'x' amt of minutes (default was 10min (?)). This was set through that abyss called Options somewhere. I suspect while also viewing --> Start | Run EVENTVWR the system is BSOD-ing, but b/c of a setting in System Properties, the system reboots instead of BSODing and giving you a STOP error code -- from which, you may get some useful info (an EventID #) to track down the problem see http://www.theeldergeek.com/shutdown_issues_in_xp.htm Quote:
This can be disabled through Options as well....I'm sure 2003 has something similar, if not even more intrusive/intensive. Perhaps your system AV software and the Macro scanning module are conflicting. Word97 was already bloated and trying to be too much more than just a Word Processor (Integrated HTML convertors, AVscanner, OLE object binders, etc) -- I can only imagine how much more-so it's become. | |
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 @phil_: Thanx, didn't notice that. Lots of info there, I'll be trying! @Nemesys: yes, nothing useful there (my system is set to BSOD instead of reboot on halt situations) @EyeForOne: although I still use the same software as half a year ago (on the old system), I'll look if I find something with that virus scanner etc...!
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 anything in dr watson log? try clearing the log and causing a crash, will be easier to find stuff that way
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 It's been a few weeks and I tried a "few" things but the problem still remains. I tried older and newer ATji drivers. I also tried older and newer Omega drivers. Up- and downgraded the VIA drivers. Updated office. Installed Office 2000 (Word 2000 gives the same troubles) etc etc. The logbooks don not show any problem (so I guess the system is faster at crashing than at logging). Anyhow.. I really don't know what to do next. If anybody has any ideas, please let me know.
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 only a couple of more thoughts concerning random crashing afaik; drwtsn32 (drwatson in 9x) will usually grab a snapshot if there's an "invalid page fault in module...blahblah" - but if the system reboots faster than the log can be recorded, then sol are we ![]() -- BUT make sure that your SWAP fiile (Pagefile.sys) is set to be ATLEAST as LARGE as the amt of RAM installed - AND that it (atleast one of them) resides on the SYSTEM partition -- this way, it can record the MEM DUMP, when crashing... http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314482 Quote:
* how large is it ? * are you letting Winblows Manage it ? <--important * there's a way to make winblows delete/wipe the SWAP (and any corruption within it) upon each logon or reboot. * this is a Desktop ? not a Laptop ? if you really want to delve deeper into all this http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm http://www.petri.co.il/pagefile_optimization.htm granted (on '98Gold) - i set my swapfile Min/Max to the SAME (e.g. 400min/400max) - just so it doesn't get all fraggled over time - but i still delete it in DOS mode on occasion too. next; I'm sure you've noticed the instructs i posted about the BSODs and turning off the "automatically restart on error..." crap - you've done this ...correct ? next2; DEP (Data Execution Prevention) and PAE (Physical Address Extensions) - are things to look into concerning Invalid accessing of MEM above the 4GB boundary. more technical gobble-di-guk if necessary ![]() next3; just making a mental note - so I don't forget; look into the HIBERFIL.sys file, and any possible corruption
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 Quote:
reasons for random reboots shouldnt be logged in event viewer at all , but in c:\windows\minidump (bsod logs, and theres always a bsod just a second before the reboot) zip/rar all files and upload to www.mytempdir.com and ill check em out | |
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 the setting to have windows require a hard reboot instead of autoreboot is good. Have you found an error code on the BSOD ?
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 It has been some time. Nothing you guys offered seemed to work and I have given up all hope. I made the switch to OpenOffice.org 2.0 (less compatibility issues with MS Office than former versions had) and I was happy. About 10 days ago, I got me a new monitor. I replaced my second monitor, an old Compraq one, by a Iiyama screen. Since then, I haven't experienced any crash any more. This got me curious, so I started Word 2003 and toyed with it for a while, without a single crash! It seems like that Compaq monitor was causing the problem. Don't ask me how (I guess that some programs trigger something on the VGA card, causing this monitor's return signal to be out of order, making my mainboard crash the system???) this is possible, but I'm glad it works. If anybody has any opinion on this, please let me know ![]()
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 Good to hear Dee-ehn, too bad I didnt see this thread on the /08th. my Brother in law had the exact same issue earlier this year and we found it was his LG Monitor Driver's. Once removed and rolled back to M$ generics - he's had no crashes since. |
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| Re: Spontaneous reboot when using Word 2003 maybe microsoft thought it was about time for you to upgrade :x
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