Yamaha CRW-F1 really a 2 sheep burner! - Club CDFreaks

Mr.PotHead · 27-12-2002

Hello all i just thought i should bring this to your attention for all those who own a Yamaha CRW-F1 with firmware ver1.0d. that it seems to me that its a 2 sheep burner rathar that a 1 sheep burner in which is listed in the CloneCD suported writers list.

i have sucessfully burned 1 personal backup of the following SD2 protected CD's with no AWS or Emulate weak sectors enabled just plane ole ingnore weak sectors.

SeriousSam2 2nd encounter
BattleField 1942
both work on my my toshiba and sony cd-rom drive.

and i downloaded that weaksector burn tester to determine how well the Yamaha CRX-F1 writes weaksectors and the results i got were quite interesting.

burned the safediskold test file to a CD-R using the Yamaha CRX-F1 passed wiht flying colours in both my cd-rom drives.
burned the Safedisk2.5.1.0 test file to a CD-R Passed with flying colours in both my CD-Rom drive.

unfortunatly my Yamaha CRW-F1 failed for the 3 sheep burner test file i ran CD through CD-check and errors came up toward the last of the file probally around the 380mb mark outa the origional 400mb test file.

has anyone else burned SD2 no prob with the Yamaha CRW-F1??

**G@M3FR3@K** · 27-12-2002

My experiences with the Yamaha CRW-F1 are that it can nearly make perfect copies. Copies with weak sectors set to ignore failed in my Toshiba SD-M1502 DVD-ROM. I used firmware 1.0b I believe. Might be interesting to test with the latest firmware 1.0f to see if anything has changed..? What Toshiba drive did you use to test the copies with?

*alexnoe* · 28-12-2002

On brennmeister, someone wrote that with the latest firmware, it successfully verifies the 3 sheep test file, but the Toshiba 1502 can't read it then.
@GF: Upgrade it and test it...

[KFG] · 29-12-2002

thats right, i tested it today and the 3sheep can´t be read in the toshiba 1712, but the yammi DID!

can you post the link ALEXNOE ?

maximino72 · 29-12-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by [KFG]
thats right, i tested it today and the 3sheep can´t be read in the toshiba 1712, but the yammi DID!

can you post the link ALEXNOE ?

But can the yamaha be considered as a 3 sheep burner if the Toshiba can't read the backup?

All 2 sheep burners are able to create backup which works at least in the Toshiba sd-m1502...
Also Plextor can read its non perfect weak sectors.
Greetings and happy new year.

**G@M3FR3@K** · 31-12-2002

Quick test:

I've copied Grand Prix 4 (SafeDisc v2.80.010) with CloneCD. Weak sectors ignore. Back-up works in the Yamaha drive and in Plextor 40X and 48X drives. Back-up failed in a Lite-On 52X drive. I have yet to test the back-up in a Toshiba SD-M1502 drive (it's not attached to my computer right now). I think it will also help to test with DiscJuggler. I'll do that when I have the time.

Bulk · 31-12-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by G@M3FR3@K
Quick test:

I've copied Grand Prix 4 (SafeDisc v2.80.010) with CloneCD. Weak sectors ignore. Back-up works in the Yamaha drive and in Plextor 40X and 48X drives. Back-up failed in a Lite-On 52X drive. I have yet to test the back-up in a Toshiba SD-M1502 drive (it's not attached to my computer right now). I think it will also help to test with DiscJuggler. I'll do that when I have the time.

Hi, is your version of GP4 a new version or something? Mine is only Safedisc 2.60.052

*alexnoe* · 31-12-2002

Quote:

But can the yamaha be considered as a 3 sheep burner if the Toshiba can't read the backup?

No. Reading in a Toshiba DVD-ROM is required to pass the test.

About the link: Can't find it at the moment...

**G@M3FR3@K** · 02-01-2003

Failed in the Toshiba. I've updated my Grand Prix 4 game with the latest patch, v9.6:

Bulk · 03-01-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by G@M3FR3@K
Failed in the Toshiba. I've updated my Grand Prix 4 game with the latest patch, v9.6:

Ah I see, yours is patched. That would explain it. Cheers.

27-12-2002	#1 (permalink)
Mr.PotHead New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1	Yamaha CRW-F1 really a 2 sheep burner! <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hello all i just thought i should bring this to your attention for all those who own a Yamaha CRW-F1 with firmware ver1.0d. that it seems to me that its a 2 sheep burner rathar that a 1 sheep burner in which is listed in the CloneCD suported writers list. i have sucessfully burned 1 personal backup of the following SD2 protected CD's with no AWS or Emulate weak sectors enabled just plane ole ingnore weak sectors. SeriousSam2 2nd encounter BattleField 1942 both work on my my toshiba and sony cd-rom drive. and i downloaded that weaksector burn tester to determine how well the Yamaha CRX-F1 writes weaksectors and the results i got were quite interesting. burned the safediskold test file to a CD-R using the Yamaha CRX-F1 passed wiht flying colours in both my cd-rom drives. burned the Safedisk2.5.1.0 test file to a CD-R Passed with flying colours in both my CD-Rom drive. unfortunatly my Yamaha CRW-F1 failed for the 3 sheep burner test file i ran CD through CD-check and errors came up toward the last of the file probally around the 380mb mark outa the origional 400mb test file. has anyone else burned SD2 no prob with the Yamaha CRW-F1??

27-12-2002	#2 (permalink)
G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	My experiences with the Yamaha CRW-F1 are that it can nearly make perfect copies. Copies with weak sectors set to ignore failed in my Toshiba SD-M1502 DVD-ROM. I used firmware 1.0b I believe. Might be interesting to test with the latest firmware 1.0f to see if anything has changed..? What Toshiba drive did you use to test the copies with? __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

28-12-2002	#3 (permalink)
alexnoe CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 4,613	On brennmeister, someone wrote that with the latest firmware, it successfully verifies the 3 sheep test file, but the Toshiba 1502 can't read it then. @GF: Upgrade it and test it... __________________ Asus P4C800E-Deluxe, Win XP, P4/2800 HT, 2048 MB RAM, 600 GB HDD, Plextor PX712/716/755/Premium, LG 4120B, Pioneer A08, Pioneer A09, NEC ND-3540A/4550A ------------------------------------------------ If at first you don't succeed, redefine success! How a troll wants to force users of Linux to buy Windows just to make use of Plextor DVD writer unique functions ------------------------------------------------ PxScan/PxView (compatible to Premium, PX-712, PX-714, PX-716), now with built-in picture file output Bitsetting via Autostart My Blog about DADVSI (new french copyright)

29-12-2002	#4 (permalink)
[KFG] New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 26	thats right, i tested it today and the 3sheep can´t be read in the toshiba 1712, but the yammi DID! can you post the link ALEXNOE ? __________________ CloneWare -> Yamaha CRW-F1 (FW 1.0d), PlexWriter 2410TA (FW 1.04), Pioneer DVR-A04 (FW 1.33) & Toshiba DVD-Rom SD 1712 visit the german DVD-Forum @ http://dvd-forum.ch.vu Last edited by [KFG]; 29-12-2002 at 17:43.

31-12-2002	#6 (permalink)
G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	Quick test: I've copied Grand Prix 4 (SafeDisc v2.80.010) with CloneCD. Weak sectors ignore. Back-up works in the Yamaha drive and in Plextor 40X and 48X drives. Back-up failed in a Lite-On 52X drive. I have yet to test the back-up in a Toshiba SD-M1502 drive (it's not attached to my computer right now). I think it will also help to test with DiscJuggler. I'll do that when I have the time. __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

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G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	Failed in the Toshiba. I've updated my Grand Prix 4 game with the latest patch, v9.6: __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

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