What is the best writer to beat SD 2.5x and make backups that play in all players? - Club CDFreaks

UncleSam · 20-03-2002

hello all, I have read numerous threads about Settings - Hardware - and utilities that fix SD2 protection for writing without AWS, but none of them really answer the question that is burning in the back of my mind.

WHAT WRITER IS THE BEST ? (That's Obtainable in the UK) that can write Safedisk V2.5+, and make working copies that work in all CD readers. ( Like my (DEAD)

Plex 820 SCSI used to ) R.I.P.

Does one exsist, or are we all only able to play our backups via some util/Emulation/hack program that fixes weak sectors.

**OC-Freak** · 20-03-2002

All Lite-On's from LTR-16102B and up will cut SD2 2.51.021 easily.

Although they may have problems with protected audio discs.

The only limitation is that you need to enable "hide CD-R media" if you want to play the backup in a CD-Writer. But this is not the writers fault, and there is no way around it with any writers.

So if protected games is your main point, then go for Lite-On. If protected audio is important, then maybe the new Lite-On 40X will do it(not 100% verified yet) or you may buy a plextor(or other drive that supports reading protected audio) to read the protected audio discs and then write with the Lite-On.

UncleSam · 20-03-2002

Cheers for the info, Protected Audio? by these you mean SD2 titles that also have audio track?

eg Holligans - storm over Europe (1 data track & 10 Audio Tracks)

this may not be possible to duplicate exactly, or are you on about a new audio protection in general?

BTW i use plex 40's for reading anyway, can the lite-on write protected audio?

c0re · 21-03-2002

I have the current burner shown below, Settings copied from ccd, and it works great although the cdtray is kinda flimsy. Sure liteon works great, Or so ive read, But where i shop they dont carry liteon and this drive was only 65$

Device Capabilities:
Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information!
Manufacturer: BTC
Product: BCE1610IM
Revision: 0.19
Can read CD-R Discs: Yes
Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes
Can read DVD Discs: No
Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes
Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes
Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes
Can write CD-R Discs: Yes
Can write CD-RW Discs: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports writing of CD+G RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports Buffer Underrun Protection: Yes

EuGeNiLe · 21-03-2002

BTC drives are pretty good.. i got the BTC BCE 3212IM for $89.00 US.. + tax in the stores.. here in california.. it was boxed as Pacific Digital
its a 32x-10x-40x burner.. with superlink buffer proof scheme.. and it also supports Correct EFM encoding...

*Upp3rd0G* · 21-03-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by UncleSam
Cheers for the info, Protected Audio? by these you mean SD2 titles that also have audio track?

eg Holligans - storm over Europe (1 data track & 10 Audio Tracks)

this may not be possible to duplicate exactly, or are you on about a new audio protection in general?

BTW i use plex 40's for reading anyway, can the lite-on write protected audio?

No, normal audio cd's with copy protection ... like Cactus Data Shield or Key2Audio
Your Plex40sp is great for reading protected audio cd's! Every writer can burn the ripped tracks or image!

UncleSam · 21-03-2002

Thats Great then, all i need now is to get down to bowlers on saturday and get me a Lite-On then,

Thanks everyone you have been a great help

xmansean · 21-03-2002

Some BTC drivers are OEMed by LiteOn....

20-03-2002	#1 (permalink)
UncleSam New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3	Is It Possible ? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> hello all, I have read numerous threads about Settings - Hardware - and utilities that fix SD2 protection for writing without AWS, but none of them really answer the question that is burning in the back of my mind. WHAT WRITER IS THE BEST ? (That's Obtainable in the UK) that can write Safedisk V2.5+, and make working copies that work in all CD readers. ( Like my (DEAD) Plex 820 SCSI used to ) R.I.P. Does one exsist, or are we all only able to play our backups via some util/Emulation/hack program that fixes weak sectors.

20-03-2002	#2 (permalink)
OC-Freak Senior Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cdfreaks review lab - Norway Posts: 5,660	All Lite-On's from LTR-16102B and up will cut SD2 2.51.021 easily. Although they may have problems with protected audio discs. The only limitation is that you need to enable "hide CD-R media" if you want to play the backup in a CD-Writer. But this is not the writers fault, and there is no way around it with any writers. So if protected games is your main point, then go for Lite-On. If protected audio is important, then maybe the new Lite-On 40X will do it(not 100% verified yet) or you may buy a plextor(or other drive that supports reading protected audio) to read the protected audio discs and then write with the Lite-On. __________________ I'm a real freak in many aspects!

21-03-2002	#8 (permalink)
xmansean CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kaohsuing,Taiwan,R.O.C Posts: 133	Some BTC drivers are OEMed by LiteOn.... __________________ Buring down!Yeah,BABY!

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20-03-2002	#3 (permalink)
UncleSam New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3	Cheers for the info, Protected Audio? by these you mean SD2 titles that also have audio track? eg Holligans - storm over Europe (1 data track & 10 Audio Tracks) this may not be possible to duplicate exactly, or are you on about a new audio protection in general? BTW i use plex 40's for reading anyway, can the lite-on write protected audio?

21-03-2002	#4 (permalink)
c0re CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 67	I have the current burner shown below, Settings copied from ccd, and it works great although the cdtray is kinda flimsy. Sure liteon works great, Or so ive read, But where i shop they dont carry liteon and this drive was only 65$ Device Capabilities: Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information! Manufacturer: BTC Product: BCE1610IM Revision: 0.19 Can read CD-R Discs: Yes Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes Can read DVD Discs: No Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes Can write CD-R Discs: Yes Can write CD-RW Discs: Yes Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: Yes Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO Write Simulation: Yes Supports writing of CD+G RAW-DAO: Yes Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO: Yes Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO Write Simulation: Yes Supports Buffer Underrun Protection: Yes

21-03-2002	#5 (permalink)
EuGeNiLe CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 37	BTC drives are pretty good.. i got the BTC BCE 3212IM for $89.00 US.. + tax in the stores.. here in california.. it was boxed as Pacific Digital its a 32x-10x-40x burner.. with superlink buffer proof scheme.. and it also supports Correct EFM encoding...

21-03-2002	#7 (permalink)
UncleSam New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3	Thats Great then, all i need now is to get down to bowlers on saturday and get me a Lite-On then, Thanks everyone you have been a great help