Is there Copy Protection on MS Windows 98 SE or other Windows versions? - Club CDFreaks

user2001 · 09-03-2002

Is there Copy Protection on MS Windows 98 SE (full version) or other Windows versions? I am making a safety copy with my legal disks.

I checked with latest Clony XL. It said there was no copy protection. I then did a manual check for read errors and it found some. What is going on here?!

What are the settings I need to use with CloneCD??

How can I check to see if I have a Perfect Copy?? Can I use a program to check this....not just try the disk out?

ntloser · 09-03-2002

There is not any copy protection on MS Win 9x, NT, 2K, XP or Office products.

user2001 · 09-03-2002

one of my IT friends was trying to make a copy of Office and wasn't able to make a working copy. He called a tech and the tech told him to use CloneCD and everything worked then. I think the software he used before may have been the problem. What say you?

ntloser · 09-03-2002

Yes it was probably his software. I have made back ups of my MS Windows from 95 to xp 2k Server Advanced server ect and have backed up all Office suites from 97 to XP using Ez cd creator 3.x Nero and clone cd.

**FutureProof** · 10-03-2002

I read yesterday that the NT disc has dummy & oversize files

ntloser · 11-03-2002

Now that I think about it, I remeber having trouble burning just the i386 directory, (and sub directories) on the NT 4 cd.

However copying the entire disk was not a problem using EZ cd 3.x .. back in 96.

user2001 · 12-03-2002

FutureProof, thanks for the NT info.

I just talked to an IT guy, who said, as far as he knew, only pirate lands like asia had copy protection on these products.

I get different answers, depending on who I talk to.

**FutureProof** · 12-03-2002

Hi. I think that the MS OS Products probably, in the main, have dummy, oversize files, illegal TOCs & what not or combinations thereof (yep, and some have none depending where you buy).

Remember, an 80' disc (oversize) used to defeat a casual read & write. Illegal TOCS & the 'file thing' also defeated casual backups.

Fact is that 99% of burners are untroubled by these copy protection attempts and are transparent to the user.

user2001 · 13-03-2002

Quote:

Remember, an 80' disc (oversize) used to defeat a casual read & write. Illegal TOCS & the 'file thing' also defeated casual backups.

Fact is that 99% of burners are untroubled by these copy protection attempts and are transparent to the user.

FutureProof, could you please expand on this answer, as it is a shorthand explanation I can't clearly understand.

Also, if Clony XL DOESN'T detect copy protection, what settings should I use in CloneCD?

**G@M3FR3@K** · 13-03-2002

FP means that these so-called protections (like an illegal TOC and oversized to 80 minutes) aren't real protections anymore since almost all writers can handle these protection. Even with normal programs such as Nero which can easily copy an Illegal TOC.

If ClonyXXL doesn't find a protection use CloneCD with both reading of the Subs enabled. Keep an eye on your Log-window for possible errors.

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user2001 New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: canada Posts: 6	Is there Copy Protection on MS Windows 98 SE or other Windows versions? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Is there Copy Protection on MS Windows 98 SE (full version) or other Windows versions? I am making a safety copy with my legal disks. I checked with latest Clony XL. It said there was no copy protection. I then did a manual check for read errors and it found some. What is going on here?! What are the settings I need to use with CloneCD?? How can I check to see if I have a Perfect Copy?? Can I use a program to check this....not just try the disk out?

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FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	Hi. I think that the MS OS Products probably, in the main, have dummy, oversize files, illegal TOCs & what not or combinations thereof (yep, and some have none depending where you buy). Remember, an 80' disc (oversize) used to defeat a casual read & write. Illegal TOCS & the 'file thing' also defeated casual backups. Fact is that 99% of burners are untroubled by these copy protection attempts and are transparent to the user. __________________ :ÐowN AsS ± ßû(r)NêR: Try our Search function > Words on Netiquette 24, 32, 40 & 52X Liteons, 16, 40, 48 & 52X ASUS', Ricoh MP7163A, Acer 1610A CD writers; Toshiba SD-M1402, Hitachi GD-7500 & Liteon LTD-163D DVD-ROMs; Toshiba SD-R1202 DVD-ROM/CD writer combo; NEC CloneDrive; Matshita DVD RAM/-R/-RW UJ-810 PEBKAC: Click here when asked AXDA3000DKV4D Atlhon 3000+ Model 10 Barton; Twin, Dual-Channeled Corsair CMX512-2700C2 @ 2-3-3-6-T1; GA-7N400 Pro F12; crappy vid card; Twin (base) WD2500JD drives There are two secrets to success: 1) Don't tell everyone everything There are 10 types of people who understand binary: those who do and those who don't Who Are YOU?

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G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	FP means that these so-called protections (like an illegal TOC and oversized to 80 minutes) aren't real protections anymore since almost all writers can handle these protection. Even with normal programs such as Nero which can easily copy an Illegal TOC. If ClonyXXL doesn't find a protection use CloneCD with both reading of the Subs enabled. Keep an eye on your Log-window for possible errors. __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

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ntloser CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 438	There is not any copy protection on MS Win 9x, NT, 2K, XP or Office products.

09-03-2002	#3 (permalink)
user2001 New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: canada Posts: 6	one of my IT friends was trying to make a copy of Office and wasn't able to make a working copy. He called a tech and the tech told him to use CloneCD and everything worked then. I think the software he used before may have been the problem. What say you?

09-03-2002	#4 (permalink)
ntloser CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 438	Yes it was probably his software. I have made back ups of my MS Windows from 95 to xp 2k Server Advanced server ect and have backed up all Office suites from 97 to XP using Ez cd creator 3.x Nero and clone cd.

11-03-2002	#6 (permalink)
ntloser CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 438	Now that I think about it, I remeber having trouble burning just the i386 directory, (and sub directories) on the NT 4 cd. However copying the entire disk was not a problem using EZ cd 3.x .. back in 96.

12-03-2002	#7 (permalink)
user2001 New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: canada Posts: 6	FutureProof, thanks for the NT info. I just talked to an IT guy, who said, as far as he knew, only pirate lands like asia had copy protection on these products. I get different answers, depending on who I talk to.