Splinter Cell (german) strange SD 2.8XX ??? - Club CDFreaks

[M@steRW!z@rD] · 15-03-2003

hi there ,,,

problem:

- tried to copy Splinter Cell (german) with CCD 4XXXX
- reading cds = no problem ... (3rd cd includes typical SD 2.8XXXX characteristics)
- up to this point of time nothing unnormal
- burned files with typical settings ... only close last session... nothing else
- i`m able to install the game ...

BUT

after installation the game doesn`t start ...
then i tried hide-cdr-media and it worked ... ???

what for i have to activate hide-cdr-media...

its the first SD 2.8 protected, which doesn`t work ...
something special ???
i also tried different speed settings of writing ...

*R!Co* · 15-03-2003

You are running game from burner and it detecte that cd is burned. when you enable emulation it will look like it is original cd. try to run game from normal cd-rom.

[M@steRW!z@rD] · 15-03-2003

no sorry that`s not the problem ...

ì knowabout the standart operation of hide-cdr-media ... in connection with burn-hardware ..

but in fact i tried to run the game from my dvd-rom ... not from my bruner ...

**philamber** · 15-03-2003

It's a bug/peculiarity with ccd. It's not all that reliable with sd 2.8x. I have exactly the same problem if I use ccd to copy sd 2.8 cds both with my Lite-on Ltr-24102b and my Asus CRW-5224A.

The copy will only run from dvd (which can't read an atip) if hide cdr media is enabled.

[M@steRW!z@rD] · 15-03-2003

but i thought .-.. hide-cdr-media is only for use with cd-burners...

why i have to use it now also with my dvd-rom ,,, and especialy for the first time ,.,.

???

Bulk · 15-03-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by [M@steRW!z@rD]
but i thought .-.. hide-cdr-media is only for use with cd-burners...

It was up until the latest version of Clone CD. The CCD tray also doubles up as an emulation utility.

**FutureProof** · 16-03-2003

With the profile shown below, which is basically "Ignore", all my ASUS, Toshiba and Lite-On burners can defeat SD2.80.010 (Unleashed). I think the CloneCD Virtual Drive is responsible for many problems and I don't recommend it's drivers going anywhere near iosubsys or system32. I have deleted the drivers and have had no problem since. However my Acer 1610 will not do it with AWS. SD2 with ignore is for two-sheep burners. I think if the VD is left right out (which was my soccer position) then the sd2 killers will do it in Clone. If an SD2 killer can't do it, uninstall, rebbot, reinstall until they can

[CloneCD ReadPrefs]
ReadSubData=0
RegenerateData=0
ReadSubAudio=0
AbortOnReadError=0
FastErrorSkip=1
ReadSpeedData=0
ReadSpeedAudio=0
IntelligentBadSectorScan=0
SectorSkip=100
NoErrorReport=0
FirstSessionOnly=0
AudioQuality=0
[CloneCD WritePrefs]
DontRepairSubchannelData=0
AlwaysCloseLastSession=0
AmplifyWeak=0
WriteSpeed=0

[M@steRW!z@rD] · 16-03-2003

"AlwaysCloseLastSession=0" ???

what`s this all about ...

ACLS = inactiv ???
why i thought better copy , when selected ...

=confused=

**G@M3FR3@K** · 16-03-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by [M@steRW!z@rD]
ACLS = inactiv ???
why i thought better copy , when selected ...

read what the option says: always close last session: when you write an image of a normal game or whatever, it will already have closed sessions (and thus the image will also be writting with closed sessions). The option is only needed when writing an image of an open session (which is rare).

[M@steRW!z@rD] · 16-03-2003

is there a known way ... with which i`m able to check, if it`s closed or opened ???

is it bad to select this option in a case of an already closed session ???

**G@M3FR3@K** · 16-03-2003

Quoting from Olli:

Quote:

Originally posted by Olli
The option isn't called "Close Last Session", it is called "Always close last session" (regardless, if it was open or not).

How about clicking the *RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON* and for heaven's sake *READ WHAT IT SAYS*:

If you copy a CD which has the last session closed, it will *always* be closed, regardless of this setting...

Almost all CDs have a closed session) so the option isn't needed. All game CDs are closed for example and no, it can't hurt to leave ACLS enabled.

[M@steRW!z@rD] · 16-03-2003

THX a lot ...

Banko · 17-03-2003

I used the latest version of CloneCD to copy Splinter Cell with no AWS with my BenQ 4816P many people say BenQ drives are crap, but this one is a two sheep burner since I copied GTA3, BF 1942, and Splinter Cell, and all have worked on my Plextor burner and nec burner and Toshiba XM6702B 48x reader with no problems...

**FutureProof** · 17-03-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Banko
I used the latest version of CloneCD to copy Splinter Cell with no AWS with my BenQ 4816P many people say BenQ drives are crap, but this one is a two sheep burner since I copied GTA3, BF 1942, and Splinter Cell, and all have worked on my Plextor burner and nec burner and Toshiba XM6702B 48x reader with no problems...

Nice to know

Frede · 24-03-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Banko
I used the latest version of CloneCD to copy Splinter Cell with no AWS with my BenQ 4816P many people say BenQ drives are crap, but this one is a two sheep burner since I copied GTA3, BF 1942, and Splinter Cell, and all have worked on my Plextor burner and nec burner and Toshiba XM6702B 48x reader with no problems...

do you have enabled "hide cdr media" ??????
if you have.... try to uncheck it an play your games again. special splinter cell.

Banko · 24-03-2003

When I used the Toshiba reader no i didn't need hide cd-r media but for the dvd burner, plextor burner, and my benq burner i needed it

*iss* · 25-03-2003

my back up copy of splinter cell made with a lite on 48246S reader Toshiba 1612 , clone CD profile safedisk 2+ no AWS will play without emulation from two diff toshiba 1612's and one 1502. but nothing else. the back up I made using alcohol 120% plays in anything with no emulation.

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[M@steRW!z@rD] CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 68	Splinter Cell (german) strange SD 2.8XX ??? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> hi there ,,, problem: - tried to copy Splinter Cell (german) with CCD 4XXXX - reading cds = no problem ... (3rd cd includes typical SD 2.8XXXX characteristics) - up to this point of time nothing unnormal - burned files with typical settings ... only close last session... nothing else - i`m able to install the game ... BUT after installation the game doesn`t start ... then i tried hide-cdr-media and it worked ... ??? what for i have to activate hide-cdr-media... its the first SD 2.8 protected, which doesn`t work ... something special ??? i also tried different speed settings of writing ... __________________ When It`s Done -...

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[M@steRW!z@rD] CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 68	no sorry that`s not the problem ... ì knowabout the standart operation of hide-cdr-media ... in connection with burn-hardware .. but in fact i tried to run the game from my dvd-rom ... not from my bruner ... __________________ When It`s Done -...

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philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,773	It's a bug/peculiarity with ccd. It's not all that reliable with sd 2.8x. I have exactly the same problem if I use ccd to copy sd 2.8 cds both with my Lite-on Ltr-24102b and my Asus CRW-5224A. The copy will only run from dvd (which can't read an atip) if hide cdr media is enabled. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?

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[M@steRW!z@rD] CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 68	but i thought .-.. hide-cdr-media is only for use with cd-burners... why i have to use it now also with my dvd-rom ,,, and especialy for the first time ,.,. ??? __________________ When It`s Done -...

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FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	With the profile shown below, which is basically "Ignore", all my ASUS, Toshiba and Lite-On burners can defeat SD2.80.010 (Unleashed). I think the CloneCD Virtual Drive is responsible for many problems and I don't recommend it's drivers going anywhere near iosubsys or system32. I have deleted the drivers and have had no problem since. However my Acer 1610 will not do it with AWS. SD2 with ignore is for two-sheep burners. I think if the VD is left right out (which was my soccer position) then the sd2 killers will do it in Clone. If an SD2 killer can't do it, uninstall, rebbot, reinstall until they can [CloneCD ReadPrefs] ReadSubData=0 RegenerateData=0 ReadSubAudio=0 AbortOnReadError=0 FastErrorSkip=1 ReadSpeedData=0 ReadSpeedAudio=0 IntelligentBadSectorScan=0 SectorSkip=100 NoErrorReport=0 FirstSessionOnly=0 AudioQuality=0 [CloneCD WritePrefs] DontRepairSubchannelData=0 AlwaysCloseLastSession=0 AmplifyWeak=0 WriteSpeed=0 __________________ :ÐowN AsS ± ßû(r)NêR: Try our Search function > Words on Netiquette 24, 32, 40 & 52X Liteons, 16, 40, 48 & 52X ASUS', Ricoh MP7163A, Acer 1610A CD writers; Toshiba SD-M1402, Hitachi GD-7500 & Liteon LTD-163D DVD-ROMs; Toshiba SD-R1202 DVD-ROM/CD writer combo; NEC CloneDrive; Matshita DVD RAM/-R/-RW UJ-810 PEBKAC: Click here when asked AXDA3000DKV4D Atlhon 3000+ Model 10 Barton; Twin, Dual-Channeled Corsair CMX512-2700C2 @ 2-3-3-6-T1; GA-7N400 Pro F12; crappy vid card; Twin (base) WD2500JD drives There are two secrets to success: 1) Don't tell everyone everything There are 10 types of people who understand binary: those who do and those who don't Who Are YOU?

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[M@steRW!z@rD] CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 68	"AlwaysCloseLastSession=0" ??? what`s this all about ... ACLS = inactiv ??? why i thought better copy , when selected ... =confused= __________________ When It`s Done -...

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[M@steRW!z@rD] CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 68	is there a known way ... with which i`m able to check, if it`s closed or opened ??? is it bad to select this option in a case of an already closed session ??? __________________ When It`s Done -...

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[M@steRW!z@rD] CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 68	THX a lot ... __________________ When It`s Done -...

17-03-2003	#13 (permalink)
Banko New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 26	I used the latest version of CloneCD to copy Splinter Cell with no AWS with my BenQ 4816P many people say BenQ drives are crap, but this one is a two sheep burner since I copied GTA3, BF 1942, and Splinter Cell, and all have worked on my Plextor burner and nec burner and Toshiba XM6702B 48x reader with no problems...

24-03-2003	#16 (permalink)
Banko New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 26	When I used the Toshiba reader no i didn't need hide cd-r media but for the dvd burner, plextor burner, and my benq burner i needed it

25-03-2003	#17 (permalink)
iss CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 975	my back up copy of splinter cell made with a lite on 48246S reader Toshiba 1612 , clone CD profile safedisk 2+ no AWS will play without emulation from two diff toshiba 1612's and one 1502. but nothing else. the back up I made using alcohol 120% plays in anything with no emulation.

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