Sim City 4 what protection? ClonyXXL doesnt say - Club CDFreaks

neoreturns · 18-01-2003

Anyone got the game and figured it out? ClonyXXL (latest) gives me the unrecognized protection. This is for the European release of Sim City 4.

SaiBork · 18-01-2003

i dont know, even at gamecopyworld it says unknown

CopyMasta · 18-01-2003

safedisc v2.51 is ON the cd. whatever protections hide inside the game's .exe file i don't know

that you'll have to reverse-engineer yourself bro

Gigi82 · 18-01-2003

My ClonyXXL detected Securom 2.8 on the European version of SC4.

CopyMasta · 18-01-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Gigi82
My ClonyXXL detected Securom 2.8 on the European version of SC4.

i bought mine in germany, (just over the dutch border) because it's cheaper there.

mine has safedisc v2.51.

i checked with clony, copy-protection sniffer and checked it out manualy (yes, myself

) and it's safedisc v2.51 dude...

**philamber** · 19-01-2003

If clony says sd 2.51, it's probably wrong. Since the game has only just been released, it's almost certainly sd 2.8.

PaRaDoX · 19-01-2003

Maxis=Electronic Arts=Macrovision Safe Disk 2.8X

Sims Unleashed rings a bell ? . . .

*Portmac* · 19-01-2003

I have recieved a few emails about Simcity4 and they all say Safedisc 2.8

|nsomnIac · 21-01-2003

Yeah they probably need to Update the ClonyXXL program the latest version is v 2.0.0.1a

and you can get it here :

http://www.bxxxxj.smokers-board.de/

Safedisk 2.8 gives me the same reading (Safedisk 2.51 ) on my older versions of Clony hope some of this helps

redsting · 21-01-2003

hi all
to get best results with clonyxxl if you have Virtual Drive disable it befor scaning . like Virtual CloneDrive or alcohol 120%Virtual Drive.
the only new thing in clony 2.0.0.1a is With the old Securom protection there were 10 skulls displayed instead of 6 skulls. This small error has been fixed in this version.
good luck

GameOwl · 28-01-2003

to easily find out if its Safe Disk 2.51 or higher just use CLONE CD to read the game Cd and view the log to see if it failed to read around 10,256 sectors then is Safe Disk....I bought Sim City 3000 when it first came out they use Safe Disk 1 so they could still stick with Safe Disk.....

*kamikazee* · 28-01-2003

SafeDisc analyser: safedisc 2.8.10
Yates: safedisc 2.8.10
YaPs: safedisc 2.8.10

So my version is Safedisc 2.8.10 U.S. version
the directory I had to scan to get it was c:/program files/maxis/sim city 4/ apps

yupper3d · 28-01-2003

The US version of Sim City 4 is protected by SD 2.8

I couldn't make a working backup copy of Sim City 4 with CloneCD unless I used the "hide CD-R media" option.

Finally, I ended up using Alcohol 120% which yielded me a perferctly working copy of Sim City 4 that works on my couple computers at home with no emulation whatsoever.

As far as I know, Ollie (the CloneCD lead developer) said that CloneCD will never overcome SD 2.8 due to the EMF issue without actually "cheating" and modifying the read sectors. Apparently, he doesn't want to do that with CloneCD because the app would become more of a "PatchCD". I guess I see his point.

andyw · 29-01-2003

My UK version is definately SafeDisc 2.8, as the latest version of ClonyXXL says, read with clone, burnt with Alcohol = 100% happy

andyw

*Maelstrom* · 29-01-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by andyw
My UK version is definately SafeDisc 2.8, as the latest version of ClonyXXL says, read with clone, burnt with Alcohol = 100% happy

andyw

why dont you read and write the image with alcohol?

neoreturns · 29-01-2003

Is this SafeDisc 2.8 something that only the newere burners can copy like the recent Lite-Ons?

Or does the type of burner have nothing to do with it? I have a Acer (now BenQ) 4x external burner that I use with my laptop, any guesses wether this will copy SD2.8? OR should I not even bother with buying Alcohol etc,

Thanks

andyw · 29-01-2003

I suppose that I was so used to using Clone that I didn't feel confident enough about reading the image with Alcohol, but now i have used the program for both and I am very happy with it.

andyw

18-01-2003	#1 (permalink)
neoreturns CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32	Sim City 4 what protection? ClonyXXL doesnt say <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Anyone got the game and figured it out? ClonyXXL (latest) gives me the unrecognized protection. This is for the European release of Sim City 4.

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SaiBork CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 58	i dont know, even at gamecopyworld it says unknown __________________ "When altering ones mind becomes as easy as programming a computer, what does it mean to be human?"

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18-01-2003	#3 (permalink)
CopyMasta New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 20	safedisc v2.51 is ON the cd. whatever protections hide inside the game's .exe file i don't know that you'll have to reverse-engineer yourself bro

19-01-2003	#7 (permalink)
PaRaDoX CD Freaks CloneCD Expert Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 166	Maxis=Electronic Arts=Macrovision Safe Disk 2.8X Sims Unleashed rings a bell ? . . .

21-01-2003	#9 (permalink)
\|nsomnIac CD Freaks Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 126	Yeah they probably need to Update the ClonyXXL program the latest version is v 2.0.0.1a and you can get it here : http://www.bxxxxj.smokers-board.de/ Safedisk 2.8 gives me the same reading (Safedisk 2.51 ) on my older versions of Clony hope some of this helps __________________ The Matrix has you… Follow the White Rabbit Knock, Knock, Neo.

21-01-2003	#10 (permalink)
redsting CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 51	hi all to get best results with clonyxxl if you have Virtual Drive disable it befor scaning . like Virtual CloneDrive or alcohol 120%Virtual Drive. the only new thing in clony 2.0.0.1a is With the old Securom protection there were 10 skulls displayed instead of 6 skulls. This small error has been fixed in this version. good luck

28-01-2003	#11 (permalink)
GameOwl CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 35	hmmmm to easily find out if its Safe Disk 2.51 or higher just use CLONE CD to read the game Cd and view the log to see if it failed to read around 10,256 sectors then is Safe Disk....I bought Sim City 3000 when it first came out they use Safe Disk 1 so they could still stick with Safe Disk.....

28-01-2003	#12 (permalink)
kamikazee Blindwrite Team Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,074	SafeDisc analyser: safedisc 2.8.10 Yates: safedisc 2.8.10 YaPs: safedisc 2.8.10 So my version is Safedisc 2.8.10 U.S. version the directory I had to scan to get it was c:/program files/maxis/sim city 4/ apps __________________ A simple guide to the BB5 Builder The Original guide to A-Ray scanner How to use a downloaded BWA PhotoDVD How To Blindwrite 5 intro

28-01-2003	#13 (permalink)
yupper3d New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4	The US version of Sim City 4 is protected by SD 2.8 I couldn't make a working backup copy of Sim City 4 with CloneCD unless I used the "hide CD-R media" option. Finally, I ended up using Alcohol 120% which yielded me a perferctly working copy of Sim City 4 that works on my couple computers at home with no emulation whatsoever. As far as I know, Ollie (the CloneCD lead developer) said that CloneCD will never overcome SD 2.8 due to the EMF issue without actually "cheating" and modifying the read sectors. Apparently, he doesn't want to do that with CloneCD because the app would become more of a "PatchCD". I guess I see his point. __________________ Win XP SP1 MSI KT4 Ultra / Athlon XP 2200+ 512 Mb DDR 2700 80Gb 8Mb Cache ATA133 LITE-ON 48/12/48 NEC DVD-ROM 12X

29-01-2003	#14 (permalink)
andyw CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 35	My UK version is definately SafeDisc 2.8, as the latest version of ClonyXXL says, read with clone, burnt with Alcohol = 100% happy andyw

29-01-2003	#16 (permalink)
neoreturns CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32	Is this SafeDisc 2.8 something that only the newere burners can copy like the recent Lite-Ons? Or does the type of burner have nothing to do with it? I have a Acer (now BenQ) 4x external burner that I use with my laptop, any guesses wether this will copy SD2.8? OR should I not even bother with buying Alcohol etc, Thanks __________________ In <3 with all things AMD LiteON LDW-811S

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29-01-2003	#17 (permalink)
andyw CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 35	I suppose that I was so used to using Clone that I didn't feel confident enough about reading the image with Alcohol, but now i have used the program for both and I am very happy with it. andyw