who can help me to find out, why my ps2 game copies - burned with clone cd- mostly get stuck while using them? I tried speed 2 and 4 but still the same...

Hi and welcome here at CDF,

we need a bit more information to help.

which burner/firmware?
which media (+R/-R; MID)?
which PS2 version? (SCPH .......)

Anyway, I would suggest you to try DVD Decrypter in ISO-Read and ISO-Write mode and use quality media like Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden. Burning speed is usually not the problem, you can even burn the discs at 16x (when 16x rated of course) without any problem.

Also, take note - DVDD will backup ps2 DVD games; it will not backup ps2 CD games. I have successfully used clone cd in the past for the ps2 CD games.

That is probably the most important thing; My game backups play fine with both of those/ DVD+R & DVD-R either type of disc.

Regards, katzz

thanks guys for your reply - i can't tell you the firmware of the burner and ps version (it's the one with the big body, not slimline!)now - i'm in the office... but copies made by someone else are running pefectly (i don't know the specification of their equipment or other details) - i also use verbatim sometimes but now i want to try sony dvd's r+, maybe they run better as originals - i'm not a specialist as you see but try my best, that's why i want to ask you what you mean with "to try DVD Decrypter in ISO-Read and ISO-Write mode" - i would appreciate if you can explain what that means - however, i'll send you the particular specifications on monday! bye

Open DVDD; Click Mode/ISO Read. That is the setting for backing up ps2 game.

This link is helpful for game backups;

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/15105

regards, katz

now, i tried the last days again to get good working kopies, this time with sony dvd's - no success (it still gets stuck sometimes!)- i tried to find dvd decrypter for "mode/iso read" setup but could not find it - as i said, i'm not an expert, sorry for that - well, i'm using clone cd version 5.2.9.1, a dvd writer dvd rw-ide 1008, a dvd reader sony-ddu1621 and the model no of ps2 is scph-5004 - now, please - who can help me further?

well, I still believe that this is a media/burner problem. Your BTC/Emprex burner is not the newest and those BTC/Emprex drives are known for having problems with many media.

Your PS2 is V8,V9 or V10 (depends on the board), however, all should be able to work with both DVD+R and DVD-R

Can you please do the following:

Download DVD identifier from http://dvdidentifier.cdfreaks.com instert one media and check the media code of your media, save a screenshot and post it here, we then get any necessary information.

you can download DVD Decrypter from http://www.doom9.org/software.htm

i have now the results as follow:


Media Code: DPR47S3 (written on Sony DVD cover)

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:SONY-D21-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Sony Recording Media Co.]
Manufacturer ID : [SONY]
Media Type ID : [D21]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [Not Supported By Method 2]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
[Method 2 Might Not Always Detect All Speeds]
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** INFO : Drive = DVDRW IDE1008 - [FW 0055] - [ATAPI]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R:SONY-D21-000]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 2770 kBps ( 2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 1385 kBps ( 1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 2770 kBps ( 2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 1385 kBps ( 1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
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** WARNING : Format 11h (Method 1) Is Recommended ADIP Retrieval Method
** WARNING : Format 00h (Method 2) Data Might Contain Drive Modified Values
** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 00h (Method 2) - Physical Information (Copy Of ADIP)
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 07 53 4f 4e 59 00 00 00 00 44 32 31 00 38 ...SONY....D21.8
0020 : 23 54 37 14 00 28 6e 00 80 69 17 19 0c 0c 0a 0b #T7..(n..i......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0b 0b 0e 0f 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 00 20 61 24 0b 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 ..88. a$..#.....
0050 : 00 00 00 20 61 24 0b 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00 ... a$..#.......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 00 25 66 6a 20 13 0c 0a 01 18 00 00 ..Tp.%fj .......
0070 : 00 00 00 36 61 6a 20 13 0c 0a 01 18 00 00 00 3a ...6aj ........:
0080 : 03 00 54 df 00 25 66 6a 20 13 0c 0a 01 18 00 00 ..T..%fj .......
0090 : 00 00 00 60 5f 85 20 12 0a 0a 01 20 00 00 00 5a ...`_. .... ...Z
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
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[ DVD Identifier V4.3.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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I hope these details are the one you requested - thanks so far!

Well, this is exactly what we need. The burner uses a quiet old firmware, the latest for this drive is 0060. But even when you upgrade to the latest you wont get good results for this media, it's not supported.

From this point there are only two possible ways to get better results.

1.) Buy some good 8x media (Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden) or
2.) invest 40 bucks and buy a up-to-date 16x drive (this is what I would do)

sorry that I couldn't help you more.

...but i finally know what the problem is and can start looking around for a new burner - any certain brands highly recommended? thanks alot guys...!!!