No need for CloneCD?! - Club CDFreaks

iHaV0FrNdS · 22-01-2002

I just wanted others to know that with Easy CD Creator 5.0 Platinum and DirectCD one can make a working copy of any protected game, regardless of burner. Using DirectCD, it just copies all the files, 1:1, but no hassle for read settings for CloneCD. So...my question for everyone is...What's the use for CloneCD then?!

Accel7 · 22-01-2002

i don't know what settings you are using but i've tried all different versions of easycd creator and directcd to make backups of protected games, and i have never made a perfect 1:1 copy using these apps.
maybe games and music disks that have no copy protection you can use easycd creator or directcd, but not protected disks, not 1:1 copys anyways.
what kind of burner do you have, and what have you made a 1:1 copy of using easycd creator or directcd?

*oaky_88* · 22-01-2002

what cds did you copy with ez cd creator

iHaV0FrNdS · 22-01-2002

I burned The Sims with this technique on a Sony CRX-140e with 1.0s firmware.

*oaky_88* · 22-01-2002

which sims

*Smart@$$* · 22-01-2002

His version of Easy CD Creator has been touched by the hand of God...it can do what no other version of Easy CD creator can do... (aside from the fact that it is working at all which is a great accomplishment on its own

)

Accel7 · 22-01-2002

i hope i explain this properly.
i'll try.
i think he is dragging and dropping the entire contents of a disk using easycd creator or directcd.
then he makes a backup of those files making it look like a 1:1 copy.
i've done the same thing with easycd creator but its not a 1:1 copy.
the backup may look like a perfect backup but its not.
if you compare the size of the original disk to the backup, the backup will always be smaller. (original might be 600megs, backup turns out to 580megs)
thats what i think he's doing but i could be wrong.

iHaV0FrNdS · 22-01-2002

I dunno. My friend can do it as well. It works and everything. I swear!

Accel7 · 23-01-2002

ok if it does really work, how is it done???
you say it makes perfect backups of protected disks yet you give no info on what the settings are or what you use to make these perfect copys.
old and new versions of easycd creator have lots of different options, what do you use???

Ysllvllurga · 23-01-2002

LOL
he succeed doing us pay attention at him...

*SirDavidGuy* · 23-01-2002

You have committed two (fake) terrible crimes:

Insinuating that CloneCd is useless, and
that EZCD isn't.

**FutureProof** · 23-01-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Ysllvllurga
LOL
he succeed doing us pay attention at him...

True, how true.

**G@M3FR3@K** · 23-01-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by SirDavidGuy
You have committed two (fake) terrible crimes:

Insinuating that CloneCd is useless, and
that EZCD isn't.

LOL, I think we should ban him from the forum

Heheh

iHaV0FrNdS · 23-01-2002

i was just saying that there was other ways to make cd's. all you do is select all. and make sure you have view hidden files on. and you paste on your cd-r with clone cd and it works. i like clone cd fine. but im just telling there are alternatives.

*oaky_88* · 23-01-2002

I tried to do what you did with ez cd creator and it didnt work
so as far as I'm concerned clonecd is the best program for copying cds

robertzimmer · 23-01-2002

no need for clone cd ?
no need of my computer ?
alternatives ?
lol ?

esdee · 24-01-2002

i just wanna say ..................
stick with that creator and come to the point that it is not cloning
and good luck with ez cd creator ,...you will need it...
lol

k9cop · 24-01-2002

Ask not what EZ CD creator will try to do for you, But what Clone CD will do for you...............................

**FutureProof** · 25-01-2002

From Daemon:

Quote:

System crashes and/or blue screen of death on some systems having (or had) Adaptec (Roxio) EasyCD installed. Older versions of this burning program are known to cause lots of trouble in combination with other burning soft or DAEMON Tools. As EasyCD cannot create working copies or images of protected CDs we do not recommend to install it. However newer versions (4.02 and higher) seem to be less incompatible (but still are very often). Anyway these versions are still not able to create 'good' images or even copies. If you encounter problems and have or had EasyCD installed please note that a standard uninstall of EasyCD DOES NOT solve your problems as some drivers of EasyCD are not deinstalled and still loaded when booting your system (imagine this!). Just deleting these files most likely causes your system to crash during next bootup. The easiest way to remove or disable these drivers is to use the (very good) audio CD burning program 'Feurio'. This program runs a system check after installation (can also be started manually by selecting 'Extras' --> 'System Check') pointing to all potential 'trouble-makers' on your system allowing to disable/remove them

**G@M3FR3@K** · 25-01-2002

Great info FutureProof

That sums it about up! Conclusion: stay away from Easy Coaster

iHaV0FrNdS · 30-01-2002

ok...don't believe me

*SirDavidGuy* · 30-01-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by iHaV0FrNdS
ok...don't believe me

Okay, we won't.

It's not our huge stack of coasters.

*cloakdoa* · 31-01-2002

Ok here are my 2 cents.

Long ago, somewhere on the other side of town I used EZCD. All was good with version 3.5c and 3.5d. Then version 4 came out.
Thats when Satan ripped of the lid of my computer and unleashed hell in my apartment. Man it was really scary, things flying around and weird chanting noises came out of my pc.
Blue screens were a plenty and nothing worked right when I used version 4. All kinds of problems and then I found Nero, and all was good. then came along clonecd, and cdrwin and cdmate

I receive one of Roxio's newsletters and the same problems were apparent in 4 and 5, they released patches, updates, and etc.

You and your pals might be able to copy a regular cd, but as far as doing a protected Roxio will probably not do it, becasue of there stance with the other companies, and Adrian who on of the tech gurus has said many times that Adaptec/Roxio doesnt and will not assist in working backups.

iHaV0FrNdS · 31-01-2002

ok! i have ezcd creator 5 platinum. and i have the latest patch. and i KNOW that The Sims is protected. and i KNOW that i made a working copy with direct cd. and plus, direct cd copies things 1:1 with packet writing. so it IS possible

**G@M3FR3@K** · 31-01-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by iHaV0FrNdS
ok! i have ezcd creator 5 platinum. and i have the latest patch. and i KNOW that The Sims is protected. and i KNOW that i made a working copy with direct cd. and plus, direct cd copies things 1:1 with packet writing. so it IS possible

The Sims is protected with normal SafeDisc. Maybe it's possible to make a back-up with Easy CD Creator or DirectCD when errors are ignored but I seriously doubt it. I can't be sure though since I don't use the software.

22-01-2002	#1 (permalink)
iHaV0FrNdS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA Posts: 90	No need for CloneCD?! <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I just wanted others to know that with Easy CD Creator 5.0 Platinum and DirectCD one can make a working copy of any protected game, regardless of burner. Using DirectCD, it just copies all the files, 1:1, but no hassle for read settings for CloneCD. So...my question for everyone is...What's the use for CloneCD then?!

23-01-2002	#16 (permalink)
robertzimmer CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 93	clone cd no need for clone cd ? no need of my computer ? alternatives ? lol ?

25-01-2002	#20 (permalink)
G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	Great info FutureProof That sums it about up! Conclusion: stay away from Easy Coaster __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

31-01-2002	#23 (permalink)
cloakdoa CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: United States- Florida Posts: 1,456	Ok here are my 2 cents. Long ago, somewhere on the other side of town I used EZCD. All was good with version 3.5c and 3.5d. Then version 4 came out. Thats when Satan ripped of the lid of my computer and unleashed hell in my apartment. Man it was really scary, things flying around and weird chanting noises came out of my pc. Blue screens were a plenty and nothing worked right when I used version 4. All kinds of problems and then I found Nero, and all was good. then came along clonecd, and cdrwin and cdmate I receive one of Roxio's newsletters and the same problems were apparent in 4 and 5, they released patches, updates, and etc. You and your pals might be able to copy a regular cd, but as far as doing a protected Roxio will probably not do it, becasue of there stance with the other companies, and Adrian who on of the tech gurus has said many times that Adaptec/Roxio doesnt and will not assist in working backups. __________________ Oh my, is that cd on fire?? I smell some hot plastics... Look at the orange button at the top 6th over from the left. It says Search. You can use this to help !!!!

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22-01-2002	#2 (permalink)
Accel7 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 282	i don't know what settings you are using but i've tried all different versions of easycd creator and directcd to make backups of protected games, and i have never made a perfect 1:1 copy using these apps. maybe games and music disks that have no copy protection you can use easycd creator or directcd, but not protected disks, not 1:1 copys anyways. what kind of burner do you have, and what have you made a 1:1 copy of using easycd creator or directcd?

22-01-2002	#3 (permalink)
oaky_88 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: HELL Posts: 505	what cds did you copy with ez cd creator

22-01-2002	#4 (permalink)
iHaV0FrNdS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA Posts: 90	I burned The Sims with this technique on a Sony CRX-140e with 1.0s firmware.

22-01-2002	#5 (permalink)
oaky_88 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: HELL Posts: 505	which sims

22-01-2002	#6 (permalink)
Smart@$$ Newbie Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 1,117	His version of Easy CD Creator has been touched by the hand of God...it can do what no other version of Easy CD creator can do... (aside from the fact that it is working at all which is a great accomplishment on its own )

22-01-2002	#7 (permalink)
Accel7 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 282	i hope i explain this properly. i'll try. i think he is dragging and dropping the entire contents of a disk using easycd creator or directcd. then he makes a backup of those files making it look like a 1:1 copy. i've done the same thing with easycd creator but its not a 1:1 copy. the backup may look like a perfect backup but its not. if you compare the size of the original disk to the backup, the backup will always be smaller. (original might be 600megs, backup turns out to 580megs) thats what i think he's doing but i could be wrong.

22-01-2002	#8 (permalink)
iHaV0FrNdS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA Posts: 90	I dunno. My friend can do it as well. It works and everything. I swear!

23-01-2002	#9 (permalink)
Accel7 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 282	ok if it does really work, how is it done??? you say it makes perfect backups of protected disks yet you give no info on what the settings are or what you use to make these perfect copys. old and new versions of easycd creator have lots of different options, what do you use???

23-01-2002	#10 (permalink)
Ysllvllurga CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Posts: 3,000,000 Posts: 35	LOL he succeed doing us pay attention at him...

23-01-2002	#11 (permalink)
SirDavidGuy CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,467	You have committed two (fake) terrible crimes: Insinuating that CloneCd is useless, and that EZCD isn't.

23-01-2002	#14 (permalink)
iHaV0FrNdS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA Posts: 90	i was just saying that there was other ways to make cd's. all you do is select all. and make sure you have view hidden files on. and you paste on your cd-r with clone cd and it works. i like clone cd fine. but im just telling there are alternatives.

23-01-2002	#15 (permalink)
oaky_88 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: HELL Posts: 505	I tried to do what you did with ez cd creator and it didnt work so as far as I'm concerned clonecd is the best program for copying cds

24-01-2002	#17 (permalink)
esdee CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 94	i just wanna say .................. stick with that creator and come to the point that it is not cloning and good luck with ez cd creator ,...you will need it... lol

24-01-2002	#18 (permalink)
k9cop CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: USA, NJ Posts: 398	Ask not what EZ CD creator will try to do for you, But what Clone CD will do for you...............................

30-01-2002	#21 (permalink)
iHaV0FrNdS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA Posts: 90	ok...don't believe me

31-01-2002	#24 (permalink)
iHaV0FrNdS CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA Posts: 90	ok! i have ezcd creator 5 platinum. and i have the latest patch. and i KNOW that The Sims is protected. and i KNOW that i made a working copy with direct cd. and plus, direct cd copies things 1:1 with packet writing. so it IS possible