LASERLOK and Mitsumi 4804TE - Club CDFreaks

iluvatar · 27-07-2001

hiho, i've tried to burn desperados (i think it uses laserlok protection) with clonecd v3.0.5.1 and mitsumi 4804te - no success. has anybody experience in burning laserlok protected cds with clonecd and this mitsumi burner ?

peace, iLUVATAR

**G@M3FR3@K** · 27-07-2001

To copy LaserLock your burners needs to support SubChannel Date reading (16 bytes)

Maybe your burner can't do it (check the CloneCD Hardware Requirements)...

I see that ot does however support the writing of the Subs so you may have to use a different unit for reading. Please note that reading of a LaserLock protected game can take quite some time.

iluvatar · 27-07-2001

this unit does support reading and writing of subchannels. i actually never had problems creating perfect safdisc backups

... anyway, i thought someone does also use this burner and could share experiences ...

peace, iLUVATAR

lupicupi · 27-07-2001

Use quality cds.

*Wookie* · 27-07-2001

Friend of mine also has this drive and always burns with CCD without probs! He uses a Toshiba 1402 to read so don't know if your drive can read the subs, but ik sure can burn them!

iluvatar · 27-07-2001

hi lupicupi, have i got you right ? you mean it makes a difference if i buy expensive or noname recordables ? are you joking ?

peace, iLUVATAR

lupicupi · 27-07-2001

No I'm not joking, illuvatar.
I made a copy of desperados with a cheap cd and it did not work. I used a Verbatim and it was ok.

**G@M3FR3@K** · 27-07-2001

There is indeed a difference between cheap CD-R and more expensice brands... The more expensive ones have a better reflection than the cheaper ones... (hold both up to a light and you'll see why

)

*Wookie* · 28-07-2001

.... then you'll see that the light will come trough the cheap one much better... which is a bad thing!

Never use blanc cd's! They cause the most trouble!

defiz · 04-08-2001

Use different Cd reader like toshibas are quite good!!!

KING · 06-08-2001

I have a Mitsumi 4804TE also, copies everything prefect

Read the cd in your Mitsumi to your HD at 4x for copy protected cds, although I have heard that 16x speed read will work also, but haven't tried it myself.

And then burn at 4x and you have a prefect backup.

And get Clony for the correct settings for CloneCD.

I use memorex CDRs 80 mins 16x

esdee · 06-08-2001

desperados is indeed a laserlock protection and the only options you should check within clonecd is:
-read subchannel from audio(if there are audio tracks)
-read subchannel from data
-intelligent bad sector scanner< this option is most important for laserlock protection ..
good luck!

27-07-2001	#1 (permalink)
iluvatar New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: thuringia, germany Posts: 5	LASERLOK and Mitsumi 4804TE <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> hiho, i've tried to burn desperados (i think it uses laserlok protection) with clonecd v3.0.5.1 and mitsumi 4804te - no success. has anybody experience in burning laserlok protected cds with clonecd and this mitsumi burner ? peace, iLUVATAR

27-07-2001	#2 (permalink)
G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	To copy LaserLock your burners needs to support SubChannel Date reading (16 bytes) Maybe your burner can't do it (check the CloneCD Hardware Requirements)... I see that ot does however support the writing of the Subs so you may have to use a different unit for reading. Please note that reading of a LaserLock protected game can take quite some time. __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

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Wookie Retired Admin Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: central NL Posts: 7,057	Friend of mine also has this drive and always burns with CCD without probs! He uses a Toshiba 1402 to read so don't know if your drive can read the subs, but ik sure can burn them! __________________ [ CDFreaks ] [For Burners, By Burners] [ !!SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE!! ]

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G@M3FR3@K Senior Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Utrèg, The Netherlands Posts: 8,777	There is indeed a difference between cheap CD-R and more expensice brands... The more expensive ones have a better reflection than the cheaper ones... (hold both up to a light and you'll see why ) __________________ CDFreaks.com - Independent CD and DVD recording news around the clock! I do not provide support via PM or e-mail, use our Forum instead. Need some help? Please use our search function first. When asking for help, please detail your problem! Become a member of this forum, it's free! Register here!

28-07-2001	#9 (permalink)
Wookie Retired Admin Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: central NL Posts: 7,057	.... then you'll see that the light will come trough the cheap one much better... which is a bad thing! Never use blanc cd's! They cause the most trouble! __________________ [ CDFreaks ] [For Burners, By Burners] [ !!SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE!! ]

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27-07-2001	#3 (permalink)
iluvatar New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: thuringia, germany Posts: 5	this unit does support reading and writing of subchannels. i actually never had problems creating perfect safdisc backups ... anyway, i thought someone does also use this burner and could share experiences ... peace, iLUVATAR

27-07-2001	#4 (permalink)
lupicupi CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 81	Use quality cds.

27-07-2001	#6 (permalink)
iluvatar New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: thuringia, germany Posts: 5	hi lupicupi, have i got you right ? you mean it makes a difference if i buy expensive or noname recordables ? are you joking ? peace, iLUVATAR

27-07-2001	#7 (permalink)
lupicupi CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 81	No I'm not joking, illuvatar. I made a copy of desperados with a cheap cd and it did not work. I used a Verbatim and it was ok.

04-08-2001	#10 (permalink)
defiz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the dark corner... Posts: 89	Hi! Use different Cd reader like toshibas are quite good!!!

06-08-2001	#11 (permalink)
KING CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 87	I have a Mitsumi 4804TE also, copies everything prefect Read the cd in your Mitsumi to your HD at 4x for copy protected cds, although I have heard that 16x speed read will work also, but haven't tried it myself. And then burn at 4x and you have a prefect backup. And get Clony for the correct settings for CloneCD. I use memorex CDRs 80 mins 16x __________________ KING www.staukclan.co.uk

06-08-2001	#12 (permalink)
esdee CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 94	desperados is indeed a laserlock protection and the only options you should check within clonecd is: -read subchannel from audio(if there are audio tracks) -read subchannel from data -intelligent bad sector scanner< this option is most important for laserlock protection .. good luck!

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