Then the people have to do all the hardwork ... it seems like we have to test and retest all the CDRW / CD/DVD-roms¨ to find out what drive and Brand works best ... and put all the Info. onto one place on the web ... plz Olli don't put down the info-site on elby ... I and other's my help you keeping it updated ... There seems like that since we have no help from the CDRW manufactures we have to help us self and other like us and keep info. like the one we find on elby updated.

Yes, please leave the EFM information regardless of my stupid post. It really is useful.

Doing something like VCDHELP.COM does for DVD players would be just the ticket. That way you would see the success rate for the various players.
As far as legality.....that is just a load of manure. If companies can validate that they will be supporting their product forever (not going out of buisness, support limits...etc) then legality would be moot. But since they cannot verify this, as well as legality of personal copies, currently they (ie software companies) have no leg to stand on (which doesn't mean they will not try). This doesn't even take into account the various issues with Linux.
Our site has fought off many a "letter of doom" from various law firms. And our stance has always been the same:

1) Can you say that the medium that your product is distributed on, will be free of defects for the life of the user?

2) Will the corporation that currently claims digital rights, to said product, proclaim lifetime support?

3) If above conditions are not met, is this declared within the user agreement and amended?

Sorry, I digress.....

-=AE=-

"What do you mean the image of Christ is copyrighted?!?!?"

I just love stuff like this! Very clever

oh hell since everyone is saying leave it, might as well join in "LEAVE IT UP OLLI".

Alam

Taken from Feurio's site

Something similar to this would work

That sounds like what he told me at Feurio when I asked about the Liteon 40x. :mad:

Sorry to go off track
But it always makes me think of that quote from the CIO of Autocad software: "I feel that the popularity of our software was mainly due to users passing it around. Though, illegal, it allowed the user to try the software. Once that had happened, the user was hooked and wanted the support and updates that went with the product. So I guess we owe "pirates" our claim to fame." This was of course before DEMOS were even being dreamed of.

But I do agree, I hope Ollie keeps the info. Maybe we can help by creating a user database on the success or failure rate of user drives. That way offload some of the work from Ollie....and participate in the process.

-=AE=-

The European law is going to change by the end of this year. It might become illegal. (That's why ELBY is moving out of Europe)

I Hate EU ... now they have collected all the politicians in ONE PLACE ... and now we see what that will result in ... all these new LAWS and SHIT ( sorry for the language ) ... They think this laws and stuff that they comes up with will make it easyer ... hehe they think ... Now Olli is moving elby out of Europa to get some peace and can continue to make CCD .... I live in Norway and we are not members in the EU ,but we are members in EFTA, Shengen +++ and that throu that we are only one small step to get in with the EU so we have to "Play" bay theyr ruls ( FUC* ) ... DAMN those politicians ... Do they not think ? DO they not think of the consequence off all the SHIT they come's up with AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad: :mad:: :mad:

Yes, EU REALLY SUCKS ***!!!!

even if a manufacturer claims their drives could copy protections, then they'd have to fight the courts in every country where this was illegal, and you know those macrovision *asterds would chase them til they had no more dough......and if you think the EU is bad, read the DMCA front to back. *time to go throw darts @ my sen. hollings picture*

"if you think the EU is bad, read the DMCA front to back."

But the EU is going to make an law which is even more restricting than DMCA, read at here:

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php3?ID=3992

:mad:

As yet I have encounted no problems at all with burning safedisk 2 cd's. I did a test with amplify weak sectors turned off and it all worked fine.
Maybe I was just the lucky one.
EFM seems to be working fine.

not to be rude at all....but what the fuck did that have to do with the topic, or, more specifically, what the topic's discussion had evolved into? sorry again for the coarse language.

Hey if you read in the forum earlier it mentions my drive and how it won't do safedisk 2 cd's.
I was just replying to that and just to say I'm having no problems at all.

maybe you should read earlier posts.

Where can elby move? I know, China or one of those Asian countries that has a rampant pirating problem. Wouldn't suggest the US, laws are gettin tighter.

caddy

make a new thread for off topic information - thats how it is done.
you could certainly note that 22 (edit, had 22, thought it was 12, rechecked, damn its late days are between your post and the post above it....

why doesnt elby move to antartica? i mean, you can claim it, at least. i hear their laws arent too strict.

ok thanks for your reply and as for this site I will not post again.