I was talking with bcn_246 on another post about if it was possible to make a 1:1 DVD copy with the CSS Keys. Well CloneCD 5 will read an entire CSS protected disc and create an image to burn back, but I can't get it to burn on a CD-RW the burn fails!

I am wondering if you burned it to a DVD-R(A) disc if it copied the keys which is in the lead-in and can write them? Anyone tested this w/ an Authoring drive yet?

If CloneCD is creating a 1:1 image (DVD ROM emu may tell us if it plays it, I don't know of any emu that supports this image) we'd know. If it is reads it there HAS to be a way to write it.

It is possible to get the CSS keys from a pressed DVD but it is not possible to write these keys to the leadin of a DVD-R (authoring or general). It is also not possible to write the CSS key in the first 6 bytes of the actual sectors that are scrambled. DVD recorders simply will not allow this. All this is assuming that you want a 'playable' DVD video disc. There is one authoring drive that I know of that will do something like this but it costs several thousand us dollars.

Well we're looking for the PoorMan's version What drive may do it, the pioneer authoring one?

I assume w/ hacked firmware you could? I don't see much use in this except you can't say anyone is cracking CSS for their backup copy. I am curious to see if it's possible, YES but probable doesn't look like it.

would it be possible to make a working image that would work in a virtual drive?

- ben

That's what I want to test, though it's hard since I have to disable DVD Region+CSS and clone images aren't supported - are they? CloneCD has a different format for DVD not the .IMG Alcohol won't even try to make an image and DVD Decrypter I don't think will make an image w/ CSS keys. I'll do some testing tonight if I get sometime.

Must have either been a bug in the first beta of clonecd 5 that didn't say it was skipping errors OR my older firmware was able to copy them...this version says skipping sectors, so it can't be done

I have just upgraded to CloneCD 5.0.3.1 and have foundI am unable to copy a DVD on a standard cheapie and moderate priced DVD. It starts to lead in, then suddenlt shows 100% and spits the DVD saying write has failed. The first two DVD's were -R's and I then had a successful couple of burns using a +R rewritable. Can anyone explain why I just can't use a straight _R DVD. My DVD writer is Pioneer 106

yeah, last time i made a dvd image with this program and tried burning it, but failed nearly immediately, what a waste, a coaster. I would recommend using dvd decrypter to create the image and then burning with it, although i used nero to burn it. I would say stay away from clone for creating dvd images for movies, although others may have have success with it.

It seems to be that CCD will only recognise RW+R media
I haven't tried with +R media yet as all mine is -R maybe thers'e a clue there.