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Old 12-05-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Why the World Doesn't Need Hi-Def DVD's

This article was writen in the New York Times By David Pogue

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/11/te...rssnyt&emc=rss
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I've been Saying this for a long time now!
Finnaly people are realising that HD isn't that great after all, and is too expencive (HDTV, HD Player and new Sound Receiver) for the small difference to DVD.
Hollywood is using marketing to make we WANT TO HAVE HD just for they kill the high Copied DVD!!!

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Re: Why the World Doesn't Need Hi-Def DVD's

Nice theory...but they already even got you with dvd....
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Re: Why the World Doesn't Need Hi-Def DVD's

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Nice theory...but they already even got you with dvd....
no they don't... i have never bought a dvd, or for your information a dvd writer. Actually i haven't even got a computer, or electricity to run it on, as electricity is evil. So are cars. We should go around in horse drawn carts, and grow our own vegetables.

But yes i think dvd is quite enough thankyou
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LOL ! You have to be kidding me when you say HD is not all that good....... I think people should have their eyes checked. If you can't tell between standard definition DVD and High DEF then you have a problem. I am talking viewed on an actual HD set with HD content vs SD set with regular SD content. The bigger the screen the more you will see where HD has its advantage.

That reminds me articles years ago that claimed DVD is not any better than VHS-SP : D
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LOL ! You have to be kidding me when you say HD is not all that good....... I think people should have their eyes checked. If you can't tell between standard definition DVD and High DEF then you have a problem. I am talking viewed on an actual HD set with HD content vs SD set with regular SD content. The bigger the screen the more you will see where HD has its advantage.

That reminds me articles years ago that claimed DVD is not any better than VHS-SP : D
No one said HD-DVD is not good. The article focused on the fact that the larger the TV, the more of a difference you would see.
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What i said is that it's too expensive, now and in the future, because it doesn't mean that you have to buy a new player, but also new HD TV and HD sound receiver. And those of you that went on to buy a new HD set when they where out............ well, you have to buy another one because that one doesn't have HDCP. This means that Hollywood is joking with us.
And again DVD is good enought for sets up to 42", bigger than that, well who can buy an 42" TV isn't the common people, so it makes no difference for the HDDVD Success.
And again, SACD and DVD-Audio are realy better than cd, as HDDVD is realy better than DVD, but where are they? I don't see SACD and DVD-Audio on retail stores as i see cd's.
I'm no caveman as haveacigar said, i just think before throw away my money. Does this things realy will improve my Home Cinema expirience? I don't think so. I've my DVD connected to my 32" TV with component cable and the picture is excelent, it seams like a window with real people on the other sidde, so why would i need HD?
I'm not an early adopter like some of you, i'm just one of the billions of average people out there, that have more where to spend their money, than in these HD discs that i belive that the main reason that hollywood is so ancious to have them out, is that they will be harder to copy, if not impossible!?
Just one more thing, i think that HD TV Transmissions is a good thing because SD TV is realy bad compared to DVD, but that only means that you have a new set top box and hoock it up to your normal tv set that you see the difference, now the DVD to HDDVD difference..............
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And again DVD is good enought for sets up to 42", bigger than that, well who can buy an 42" TV isn't the common people, so it makes no difference for the HDDVD Success.
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I'm sorry but I do not agree 100% - This can be open for debate. The bigger the set the more you will notice artifacts and blocking, and especially on low bit rates. For films encoded at high bitrates, maybe less, but for even for certain original DVDs in the 4mbit-6mbit range you will defiantely notice artifacts at that size. Then again there is another factor, the quality of the scaler and TV components. Some sets do a great job, others are absolutely horrid.

Watching standard definition on a 42' set or larger is crazy IMO.......
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I read this a few days ago on the cdfreaks news thing and it basically said that you need a 42 in + HD T.V. and a2 or 3 thousand dollar sound system ect... to get all the quality and the average person isn't willing at this point to go out and get this stuff just yet ect.... I don't remember the whole thing but this is what I picked up on reading it. 42" tv's will be standard in a few years I think.
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Re: Why the World Doesn't Need Hi-Def DVD's

I, for one, want high defintion content. NTSC sucks now, sucked yesterday and will continue to suck moving forward. It needs to be put to pasture, and good riddance, IMO. Don't have much experience with PAL so can't comment to it's pros or cons.

I disagree with the above poster who mentioned the need to upgrade all of your equipment. The vast majority of folks who own hi-def display devices are watching DVD's at this very moment, and believe they are watching high definition. There is so much bad information out there, confusion alone has stunted the growth of high definition. Sound equipment does not need to be upgraded to enjoy high definition movies. The new Dolby and DTS codecs are backward compatible with 5.1 (or 6.1 if you're inclined) systems. Besides, mainstream folks have already demonstrated that sound quality isn't nearly as important to them. MP3 is the audio standard today, and many believe it's 'just as good as CD', which I believe is truly sad, but that's just me.

Of course a new player will be needed, but is that really a bad thing? DVD isn't going away anytime soon. I don't think the world really needs to see, oh say Casablanca, in 1080P. DVD works fine for most every title in the studio's movie vaults. The new formats are for current movies and moving forward. That is merely my opinion and no doubt someone will decide to release everything in the new format. The market will play out, and it will be apparent whether older movies need the update or not.

All that said, I'm not jumping in until the market has settled on a single format. Maybe I'm only kidding myself, time will tell. The industry would be making a very foolish mistake to force consumers to decide. As mentioned, SACD vs. DVD-Audio all over again, if it's not careful.

The world does need hi-definition. Cooler heads need to prevail to allow that to occur.


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One final point, the industry needs to squelch their nonsense with 'downrez' content and display devices that don't support HDCP. Telling the early adopters to buy new sets is beyond ridiculous.
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Re: Why the World Doesn't Need Hi-Def DVD's

I just see all this advertised "hd ready" crap and cannot stop laughing.
Then I look at the res and .... lol.
It's even more creepy with Plasmas.

Jeeez, I want an HDCP enabled crap new gfx card - now.
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I just see all this advertised "hd ready" crap and cannot stop laughing.
Then I look at the res and .... lol.
It's even more creepy with Plasmas.

Jeeez, I want an HDCP enabled crap new gfx card - now.
Heh, to say nothing about the 'quality' scalers in those displays.

Who was the genius that decided 1366x768 was a good thing?

And don't get me started on the 480 panels...
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Exactly. Gimme 5.
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