Father of Java Promises 'Mind-Blowing' Blu-ray Experiences - Club CDFreaks

bourned · 07-03-2008

http://www.toptechnews.com/news/Gosl...d=013001H477ZK

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By Jennifer LeClaire
March 6, 2008 10:48AM

Sun Vice President James Gosling, known as the father of Java, says the next-generation Blu-ray Profile 2 will offer "mind-blowing" experiences. Demonstrations of Blu-ray Profile 2 are scheduled in May, and Blu-ray players with the new specification are on the way from Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer and Sharp, among others.

>>When the father of Java speaks, developers listen. James Gosling, widely known as the father of the scripting language, spoke about Java and Blu-ray innovation at the Sun Tech Day in Sydney, Australia. Gosling, a vice president and fellow at Sun Microsystems, gave the keynote address and talked to reporters.
Sun's Java language is part of the Blu-ray specification. Gosling told reporters that the next-generation Blu-ray Profile 2 will be "mind-blowing." Demonstrations of Profile 2 are scheduled for demonstration at the JavaOne conference in May, and players with the new specification are expected this spring. Profile 2 offers Internet connectivity and storage for downloaded content.

"Now the real battle begins between Sony and Panasonic and Pioneer and Sharp and all the playermakers to make their players richer," said Richard Doherty, an analyst at Envisioneering Group. "How many consumers would like to be able to chat with family members in different cities over the Internet while they watch Ratatouille the week it comes out?"

The Promise of Blu-ray Profile 2

Sony took a step in that direction when it updated its Blu-ray Disc player line with two new models that will offer advanced interactive features, including trailers and games from the Internet. The new players will debut this summer.

The BDP-S350 and BDP-S550 models both support BonusView -- Picture-in-Picture -- featured on some of the new Blu-ray Disc theatrical releases. The BDP-S350 is BD-Live ready and features an Ethernet port for an easy firmware update and access to Internet-based interactive content. The BDP-S550 will be BonusView and BD-Live capable when it ships.

Doherty pointed to the possibilities with Java applications from the movie studios, from third parties, and Java environments supported by Blu-ray player manufacturers like Sony. The discs, he said, will be much richer and interactive. Beyond the socialization, we might see scenarios where folks like children's TV activist Peggy Charren, for example, offer a Java site that passes over the most gory scenes of movies for children under 12.

Let the Innovation Begin

In short, Gosling is absolutely right about the mind-blowing potential of Java in Blu-ray, Doherty said. That's one reason, he added, why Microsoft subsidized the high-definition battle on HD DVD's behalf. Microsoft wanted to block Java from becoming the developer language of choice for high-definition discs, he said.

"There are licenses paid for Java on the disc side and the player side, so it's a long-term revenue win and it's an architectural win and a salute to Gosling and his team, as well as the hundreds of thousands of people who program in Java," Doherty said. "Most of the developers who were working on both platforms are throwing their weight behind Java. Now we'll begin to see all kinds of social interactivity with high-definition players and discs."

I don't mind "Mind-Blowing" experience although not sure if I will have time to browse them all and more importantly as long as it doesn't sacrifice PQ and AQ of the MAIN MOVIE!

zaina · 07-03-2008

You need a Profile 2.0 blu-ray player for this!

AFAIK only PS3 is currently Profile 2.0 capable (with a firmware update).
And Panasonic BD50, Sony BDP-S350 and S550.

Which Pioneer and Sharp model that they're talking about? and at what price range will be?

**Jesterrace** · 07-03-2008

Considering they all run $350+ at the cheapest for the V1.0 players I don't even wanna think about what their Profile V2.0 players are going to cost.

*Bob* · 07-03-2008

yep there you go.....the leash is on the dog now. Then version 3.0

yaaaaaaa Blu-ray wins

*crossg* · 07-03-2008

Maybe it's just me but I find PIP both annoying and distracting. When I buy or rent a movie I don't want another picture or someone talking about the movie. I can go to disc features at the end if I want to see that crap. HD-DVD has that ability now and I dont use it. Every new BD movie to date has played fine in my profile 1 player. Why would I rush out and get a profile 2 BD player???

*CDan* · 07-03-2008

So, the features that were already available on HD-DVD are suddenly offered as "mind-blowing" features on some future BD players.

What's worse, all the HD-DVD titles I have with PIP, I've yet to even once use it. Really boring stuff.

*Dr. Who* · 08-03-2008

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Originally Posted by crossg

Why would I rush out and get a profile 2 BD player???

Because when the BD's come out they most likely won't play on a profile 1.0?

*crossg* · 08-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Dr. Who

Because when the BD's come out they most likely won't play on a profile 1.0?

Hmmm. That sounds like a law suite in the making! It's already been stated that the movies will work and you just won't have access to cetain features with profile 1 players which is fine with me.

*Dr. Who* · 08-03-2008

I thought you already knew this?

They had a news story about profile 2.0 and that there won't be a firmware update for the first generation players etc... this was about 3+ weeks ago on google news if I remember correctly.

**platinumsword** · 08-03-2008

I also posted a link regarding this.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f149/blu-ra...g-into-236434/

*TCAS* · 08-03-2008

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Originally Posted by crossg

Maybe it's just me but I find PIP both annoying and distracting. When I buy or rent a movie I don't want another picture or someone talking about the movie. I can go to disc features at the end if I want to see that crap. HD-DVD has that ability now and I dont use it. Every new BD movie to date has played fine in my profile 1 player. Why would I rush out and get a profile 2 BD player???

Me Tooooooooooooooo and you have my vote on this issue.

*TCAS* · 08-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Jesterrace

Considering they all run $350+ at the cheapest for the V1.0 players I don't even wanna think about what their Profile V2.0 players are going to cost.

I agree same here.

*crossg* · 08-03-2008

From the link platinumsword posted above.

BDA President says:

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He added that early Blu-ray owners can continue to do everything they could in the beginning: watch movies in high-definition.

This is speculation on the writers part I would assume:

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In addition, the BD-J interactivity layer, based on Java, has continued to evolve since the introduction of Blu-ray Profile 1.0. This means that early players may have a buggy implementation and perhaps more importantly, they are not powerful enough to play the latest films properly

**zevia** · 08-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Jesterrace

Considering they all run $350+ at the cheapest for the V1.0 players I don't even wanna think about what their Profile V2.0 players are going to cost.

According to Sony, their Profile 2.0 players which will be out this Summer 2008:
Sony BDP-S350 - MSRP $349
Sony BDP-S550 - MSRP $449

There is one announced Panasonic DMP-BD50 which is also Profile 2.0 available Summer 2008 but MSRP unknown.

I believe we can safely assume that during the holiday season they will be less.

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zaina CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 168	Re: Father of Java Promises 'Mind-Blowing' Blu-ray Experiences You need a Profile 2.0 blu-ray player for this! AFAIK only PS3 is currently Profile 2.0 capable (with a firmware update). And Panasonic BD50, Sony BDP-S350 and S550. Which Pioneer and Sharp model that they're talking about? and at what price range will be?

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Jesterrace Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,532	Re: Father of Java Promises 'Mind-Blowing' Blu-ray Experiences Considering they all run $350+ at the cheapest for the V1.0 players I don't even wanna think about what their Profile V2.0 players are going to cost.

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crossg Retired Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta. Canada Posts: 4,648	Re: Father of Java Promises 'Mind-Blowing' Blu-ray Experiences Maybe it's just me but I find PIP both annoying and distracting. When I buy or rent a movie I don't want another picture or someone talking about the movie. I can go to disc features at the end if I want to see that crap. HD-DVD has that ability now and I dont use it. Every new BD movie to date has played fine in my profile 1 player. Why would I rush out and get a profile 2 BD player??? __________________ My PC Specs. Plextor 760A/716A 1.07/1.10, BenQ DW1655, BCIB, BenQ DW1640 x2, BSLB, Nec 4551A, 1.08. Lite On SHM 165P6S/LH-20A1S, MS0R/9L05. LG GSA H22N/H62N, 1.02/CL01. SH-S203B, SB03. The Forum Rules Click here to join CDFreaks.com.

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CDan CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,557	Re: Father of Java Promises 'Mind-Blowing' Blu-ray Experiences So, the features that were already available on HD-DVD are suddenly offered as "mind-blowing" features on some future BD players. What's worse, all the HD-DVD titles I have with PIP, I've yet to even once use it. Really boring stuff.

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Dr. Who DVD neXt COPY Support Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 3,030	Re: Father of Java Promises 'Mind-Blowing' Blu-ray Experiences I thought you already knew this? They had a news story about profile 2.0 and that there won't be a firmware update for the first generation players etc... this was about 3+ weeks ago on google news if I remember correctly. __________________ To get the latest DVD neXt COPY update click HERE. Please use the forum to get technical help by posting HERE My Current System : Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G ATX Intel Motherboard, Intel E6600 Core 2 Duo 2.66 ghtz, 4 gigs of OCZ RAM (PC-6400), GeForce 8500GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported, 2-320 gig Western Digital HDD's, EIDE 150 gig Western Digital HDD, EIDE 120 gig Segate HDD, Pioneer DVR-215D 1.18 Firmware booktype & Region Free Patch , Samsung 203N SB02 Firmware booktype & Region Free Patch, LG H55L-1.05 Firmware booktype & Region Free Patch, Samsung 223F SB00 Firmware booktype & Region Free Patch, Antec True Power 650 watts Power Supply, Antec Gamer 900 Case, Sound Blaster X-FI Gamer Edition 7.1 surround sound, Vista 64 bit with SP1

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platinumsword Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,597	Re: Father of Java Promises 'Mind-Blowing' Blu-ray Experiences I also posted a link regarding this. http://club.cdfreaks.com/f149/blu-ra...g-into-236434/ __________________ Platinumsword's New Build Here

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