Go Back   Club CDFreaks - Knowledge is Power > International Chat: Hardware related > CD and DVD Burners > External Enclosures


Commercial message

External Enclosures Discuss External enclosures for digital storage devices in the External exclosures forum on CD Freaks



Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 17-07-2004   #1 (permalink)
CD Freak
 
Wesociety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,997
External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Heya fellas,

I've read a few threads on external enclosures, but no one usually mentions where they obtained their units.
I see that a unit based on an Oxford chipset is preferable.
I need an enclosure that supports Firewire (and preferably, also USB2.0).

Those of you that purchased an enclosure already, where did you purchase it?
Anyone know of any deals/sales currently running on these?

Thanks!
__________________
DVDRentalForums.com Netflix, Blockbuster & other DVD rental services discussion community
WesleyTech.com Blu-ray, HD DVD & optical storage blog
~
My Articles & Reviews: Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray burner | BenQ DW1670 Preview | CDFreaks CES 2006 report | Panasonic MATSHITA DVD-RAM SW-9585 | ASUS DRW-1608P | Memorex DVD+/-RWN16 D2 | Toshiba SD-R5372 | ASUS DRW-1604P | ADS Tech LL5-DLX-185
Wesociety is offline  
Old 17-07-2004   #2 (permalink)
CD Freaks Senior Member
 
Skith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: MI
Posts: 318
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

take a look at these BYTEC ecnlosures from newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...ry=1641&DEPA=0

the ME-320U2F & ME-320U2FB (black) will fit 5.25" devices.

these are the only ones I have found that state they use the oxford911 chip.
The black is the only one in stock. I do not have any personal experience with them though.

Good Luck!
Skith is offline  
Old 18-07-2004   #3 (permalink)
CD Freak
 
Wesociety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,997
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

$42.99 ... ouch
Anyone have a more cost effective suggestion?
__________________
DVDRentalForums.com Netflix, Blockbuster & other DVD rental services discussion community
WesleyTech.com Blu-ray, HD DVD & optical storage blog
~
My Articles & Reviews: Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray burner | BenQ DW1670 Preview | CDFreaks CES 2006 report | Panasonic MATSHITA DVD-RAM SW-9585 | ASUS DRW-1608P | Memorex DVD+/-RWN16 D2 | Toshiba SD-R5372 | ASUS DRW-1604P | ADS Tech LL5-DLX-185
Wesociety is offline  
Old 18-07-2004   #4 (permalink)
Retired Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Deadwood
Posts: 11,449
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesociety
$42.99 ... ouch
Anyone have a more cost effective suggestion?
The same cases are $90 in stores. You get what you pay for Wes.
rdgrimes is offline  
Old 18-07-2004   #5 (permalink)
CDFreaks Resident
 
DiiZzY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Nordic Region, Sweden
Posts: 2,804
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Does brand of the chip matter at all?
Any good article regarding performace and compatibility?
Besides that it's mostly look and finish you pay for. :)
//Danne
DiiZzY is offline  
Old 18-07-2004   #6 (permalink)
CD Freaks Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 51
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-342&depa=0
is $ 32.99
LesterVegh is offline  
Old 18-07-2004   #7 (permalink)
CD Freak
 
Wesociety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,997
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Sorry Lester,
The enclosure in your link is USB 2.0 only.
I need firewire
__________________
DVDRentalForums.com Netflix, Blockbuster & other DVD rental services discussion community
WesleyTech.com Blu-ray, HD DVD & optical storage blog
~
My Articles & Reviews: Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray burner | BenQ DW1670 Preview | CDFreaks CES 2006 report | Panasonic MATSHITA DVD-RAM SW-9585 | ASUS DRW-1608P | Memorex DVD+/-RWN16 D2 | Toshiba SD-R5372 | ASUS DRW-1604P | ADS Tech LL5-DLX-185
Wesociety is offline  
Old 18-07-2004   #8 (permalink)
CDFreaks Resident
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Near Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 12,363
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

I have great external USB/1394 case but I'm not sure what chipset it uses.
__________________
Kill Confucius
Kenshin is offline  
Old 19-07-2004   #9 (permalink)
CD Freaks Senior Member
 
booma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: UK they say
Posts: 490
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Wes, quit complainin! Over here, cheapest I can get an oxford case for is £40 (give or take £2)! I tried the £25 one and I can't do more than 4x. Consider that I only paid £45 plus shipping for my nec and u'll see how ridiculous it is.
__________________
Can't stop, won't stop
booma is offline  
Old 19-07-2004   #10 (permalink)
CDFreaks Resident
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Near Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 12,363
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Quote:
Originally Posted by booma
Wes, quit complainin! Over here, cheapest I can get an oxford case for is £40 (give or take £2)! I tried the £25 one and I can't do more than 4x. Consider that I only paid £45 plus shipping for my nec and u'll see how ridiculous it is.
That's probably because it takes more to ship the external cases than the bulk drives. I mean, literally the bulk size and weight for 5.25-inch form factor cases cost more than 5.25-inch form factor drives. It also costs more for manufacturers and retailers to keep the inventory. Usually the drives are made in China and so are the cases but the they produce the drives by the millions, as least for LG and NEC, but the case manufacturers are not that lucky. Since the demand is so little for the USB/1394 external cases, they produce much less. It works a little better for the drive manufacturers like HP, Sony, IO DATA, Bufallo, Plextor because they can order at least by the thousands from the case makers. That way, they can sell the cases for US$10 per unit, OEM, of course.

Once USB 2.0 PCI cards were also very expensive. The same was also true of IEEE 1394 cards. Only mass production and competition from chipset makers like Intel brought the prices down to US$10 and further to US$5 and even lower. Nowadays, USB 2.0 is virtually free on most motherboards, that frequently provide up to eight USB 2.0 ports on common products available for under US$100 which includes all kinds of chipsets and slots for AGP, PCI, DRAM, CPU, PATA, SATA, USB, LAN, etc. Once SCSI cases for external use were popular among hardware enthusiasts. I also used such cases for my SCSI drives like Plextor 40TSi and Teac 56S. They were relatively cheap then, much cheaper than current generations of USB/1394 cases for HDDs and ODDs. Thus I think the unrealistic price of external enclosures for optical drives reflect the changed reality that external use of standard half-height 5.25-inch drives is not encouraged because of its inefficiency at least from the viewpoint of most manufacturers of drives and chipsets. I asked one small venture-capital vendor in Seoul about their 8-unit 1394 case. They wanted me to pay at least US$700 and that was a greatly discounted price from usual quotes. The case does not offer much performance but still costs US$700. The only thing it does really is to let users hold up to either HH optical drives in one case. Absurd.
__________________
Kill Confucius
Kenshin is offline  
Old 20-07-2004   #11 (permalink)
CD Freak
 
Wesociety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,997
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Alright fellas, thanks for the info and external case pricing...
I didn't think they would cost so much before I started pricing them out.
__________________
DVDRentalForums.com Netflix, Blockbuster & other DVD rental services discussion community
WesleyTech.com Blu-ray, HD DVD & optical storage blog
~
My Articles & Reviews: Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray burner | BenQ DW1670 Preview | CDFreaks CES 2006 report | Panasonic MATSHITA DVD-RAM SW-9585 | ASUS DRW-1608P | Memorex DVD+/-RWN16 D2 | Toshiba SD-R5372 | ASUS DRW-1604P | ADS Tech LL5-DLX-185
Wesociety is offline  
Old 18-08-2004   #12 (permalink)
CD Freak
 
Wesociety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,997
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Update: I finally picked up an external enclosure from Frys' Electronics.

OXFORD chipset!
http://www.adstech.com/products/DLX1...asp?pid=DLX185
39.99 after rebate. not too bad I suppose...

A friend that has this enclosure claims that USB 2.0 does not have a good enough "burst rate" to sustain 8X writing. Good thing that it supports both USB 2.0 AND firewire.

Any other thoughts/comments/experience with this enclosure?
__________________
DVDRentalForums.com Netflix, Blockbuster & other DVD rental services discussion community
WesleyTech.com Blu-ray, HD DVD & optical storage blog
~
My Articles & Reviews: Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray burner | BenQ DW1670 Preview | CDFreaks CES 2006 report | Panasonic MATSHITA DVD-RAM SW-9585 | ASUS DRW-1608P | Memorex DVD+/-RWN16 D2 | Toshiba SD-R5372 | ASUS DRW-1604P | ADS Tech LL5-DLX-185
Wesociety is offline  
Old 18-08-2004   #13 (permalink)
Retired Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Deadwood
Posts: 11,449
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

I can assure you that USB2 is good enough for at least 12x burning. The problem with USB2 is that most of the system controllers are crap and throughput is low.
rdgrimes is offline  
Old 19-08-2004   #14 (permalink)
CDFreaks Resident
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Near Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 12,363
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Right now, I've got four DVD drives connected to this PC via USB 2.0. The rest are connnected using 845 ICH4, PCI PATA card, and PCI IEEE 1394a card. I'd like to use only USB and 1394 for DVD drives.
__________________
Kill Confucius
Kenshin is offline  
Old 19-08-2004   #15 (permalink)
CDFreaks Resident
 
Jamos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: on your computer
Posts: 3,619
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesociety
Update: I finally picked up an external enclosure from Frys' Electronics.

OXFORD chipset!
http://www.adstech.com/products/DLX1...asp?pid=DLX185
39.99 after rebate. not too bad I suppose...

A friend that has this enclosure claims that USB 2.0 does not have a good enough "burst rate" to sustain 8X writing. Good thing that it supports both USB 2.0 AND firewire.

Any other thoughts/comments/experience with this enclosure?
ADS is a good brand i have one.
__________________
Current DVD Hardware:
8x: Liteon SOHW-832, Benq DW822, NEC ND-2500
12x: LG GSA-4120, Plextor PX-712A
16x: Pioneer DVR-108, Benq DW-1620A, Benq DW1655, NEC ND3500A, Plextor PX-716A, LG LG4163, Liteon SOHW-1693, NEC 4550, Pioneer DVR-111D
18x: Plextor 760A
Jamos is offline  
Old 21-12-2004   #16 (permalink)
CDFreaks Resident
 
code65536's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: .us
Posts: 5,931
Re: External Enclosure recommendations in the US

Thread closed in an attempt to consolidate and organize all the external enclosure threads. Please make any new posts in this new thread, where you can also read more about this consolidation. Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions or concerns about this closure/consolidation. Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
__________________
"You don't have to be a supporter of freedom of speech to protest when your own ox is being gored. You do have to be a supporter of freedom of speech to protest when the government tries to censor the speech of those who are goring your ox." -Alan M. Dershowitz

LiteOn Stuff: LiteOn F.A.Q. | OmniPatcher | DVD-Writer Overview | Changing Write Strategies | Crossflashing | XFlash Utility
General Stuff: DVD-Writer F.A.Q. | Rules of the Optical Drive Forums | Attaching Scans | The rpc1.org Firmware Database
Code Guys: http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ | send us e-mail

I Use: Firefox + ClassicFox | Google Talk (Jabber) using Gaim for Windows | Winamp | EAC | Google Earth
C64K: My Travel Photos | In Retirement...
code65536 is offline  
 
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
building external enclosure using and external hd unit mmoalem External Enclosures 2 11-03-2007 21:20
Recommendations for External Plextor Burner justsatorn Plextor Burner 3 31-07-2006 18:06
Need external HD recommendations Bobverens General Hardware Forum 29 29-06-2006 23:39
External Enclosure recommendations please ? for DVD Burner / HDD crashnburn_in External Enclosures 11 21-12-2004 01:44
External Enclosure recommendations please ? for DVD Burner / HDD crashnburn_in Hard Drive 4 08-12-2004 18:30


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 14:20.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0