It would be good to know what it is the share Blu-Ray format in total DVD movie in the market at the present and very near future.

Total movies?

At present, DVD = 90.000 titles, Blu-ray = 500-ish.

I don't have the numbers for near future but I'm hoping some day blu-ray will release new movies the same date and day DVD's release.

So considering the time that Blu-Ray first came to the market up to now have only 500ish, I thought if this figure would justify the mass consumption by public of Blu-Ray products (Recorder, Player and Movie disc) to point to bring the cost of production down or be very competitive with DVD products. But I gain this all just guessing scenario and who know what future will hold.

Keep in mind that it all goes hand in hand with HDTV adoption as that is crucial for Blu-Ray to succeed if they intend to try and replace DVD (good luck). As it sits right now about 33% of homes have HD sets. They are going to need to at least double that before they can think about replacing DVD. Sad thing is that at this point HD-DVD actually has more titles available due to import titles and no region coding.

Wacha gonna do with HD DVD in your hand? Enjoy it!

yeah A3/D3 cheap but sucks. A3/D3 is crippled, its meant for low end market. So so upconversion, no hidef audio, no 1080p, no multichannel analog, slow boot and sensitive to scratched disc. XA2 is the best with its Reon chip. but XA2 price = blu-ray price!

If you don't own the dead format, think of spending 80+ for the player and hundreds$ for hd movies? hmm.. think twice. You gonna spend more coz you gonna keep buying more and more OLD movies.

Prediction says mid-range blu players will be $200 this holiday season.

The following is the list of the DVD movies that are available in HD -DVD format with complete information of the movie rating, HD quality, price and so on. The list is quite long.



http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html

Acutally that's not even the complete list. There are some additional import titles that aren't on there:

www.xploitedcinema.com and www.amazon.de (just check for the HD-DVDs and you will see several titles come up that aren't on that list).

@bourned if you buy more movies (assuming these are movies that you would buy in high-def regardless) you only end up saving more money over Blu-Ray. With titles starting as low as $8.95 shipped you are going to go a lot farther with HD-DVD by spending hundreds of dollars than you would with Blu-Ray. Not saying there aren't some affordable Blu-Ray titles out there but when you do the average comparison between prices it doesn't add up. I agree that if there are only about 4-5 movie on HD-DVD that you want and you don't already own a player then it probably won't be worth it. However if you can find at least 8-10 movies that you would buy from that list then it is definitely worth it. Also if you think the A3 is junk, then guess again. I have compared my high-end Oppo Digital side by side with my A3 and for up-conversion there is no significant quality difference on standard DVD. My Oppo cost me $240 shipped. My A3 cost me $135.67 and came with 9 free high-def movies. Anyways, so the smart person either waits or buys a cheap HD-DVD player and stocks up on dirt cheap HD-DVD titles and then waits for Blu-Ray prices to come down and then buys the Blu-Ray hardware and additional Blu-Ray titles for significantly less.

In the end, the best posible use will probably be tying 9 or 10 drives together and using them as boat anchors.

Not at the prices that the hardware and titles are going for.

I have been struggling whether to take my Toshiba "A3" back to CC and ask for credit as refund or keeping using it as good source of Up Scalling. I was watching a very old DVD movie (A Summer Place) with it last night with Picture Quality beyond my expectation considering the movie was 1959 one.

Keep it, HD movies are going for nothing now and they are one of the very best up converters out there.
Too bad we didn't get ours at Best Buy as they are doing $50 gift cards for most folks who bought one from them recently.
I'm keeping my A-2, it does a nice job of playing dvd's and my capped programs at 1080i from my HDTV card play nicely too after some converting.

Does any1 know what Circuit City is doing in offering any credit either in form of cash, credit or exchange toward Toshiba HD Player that are sold in last 90 days? Best buy is offering $50 gift card credit.

They are offering a credit towards a BD player, WHOOPIE So you get a player possibly without the final profile for maybe 300 instead of 400.
Great way to make sure HD-DVD never has any way to come back from the dead, and make sure you now have to replace any hd movies you might have gotten cheap recently with a $30 copy of the same one on BD.

Not me< I would never pay $300 for just a player (in this case BD), I rather to keep my A3 and use it as Up scaling than trade it in and pay additional $300 to just get a player. One must be insane to go for this.

Well I paid 160 for my Demo, and its a first gen profile 1 but it pretty much has played the few BD movies I have ran through it nicely so far.
I doubt their are any good demo deals on older BD players left now but some sears and other places that don't sale them as much may still have some deals.
I just feel it more of a indirect final nail in the HD coffin and a indirect money maker for the BD camp as they force you to buy their software once you accept that deal. Some of the CC stores are claiming they wont do the deal, some are YMMV. I think the BB deal is better, you keep it and we give you 50 bucks for picking the loser

Glad I bought from them.

I agree the BB deal is the most reasonable and fair one. The CC so far is giving only lip service.

I did go to the CC and talked to the store Manager about my Toshiba "A3" and what to do with it. After he talked to district office on the phone he told me as long s you have purchase any Toshiba HD player within last 90 days you can return it for full refund in store credit term.

If you were able to purchase or obtain an HD-DVD writer, and burned some important data in that format, at least you can feel quite certain that it's safe and secure. I mean, how many people will have the ability to read or access the data?

I guess there are drives that can read both formats, but those will become scarce.

The point is, that the data on written HD-DVDs is not safe, and the data integrity so far is very bad/unreliable.
There is only one slimtype burner in a expensive Toshiba and also a standalone burner, AFAIK.

Yep, blu is gonna be the only way to go for a HD burner. I'm probably going to get one when my tax refund shows up. So far the LG multi burner sounds like the best bet as it can read HD-DVD, burn Blu, and burn the normal cdr/dvdr type stuff. So if needed you can convert your hd collection to bd and backup data and burn regular dvd's and things.
My closest Best Buy juts sent back ALL of their hd-dvd movies, some of them kept them and are blowing them out at 9 bucks each, but pretty sure most just said lets bury hd and sent them back, now they have 2 small areas full of BD movies for 30 each, with a few on sale for 20 to 24.

I have not seen any good sale on HD movie in any retailers. Look like the Toshiba HD players ( any one them) is the best and still excellent source of Upscaling compairing with regular DVD players with UpScaling ability.