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| New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Quote:
Bought DVD version has video-codec MPEG2 in 720x480(576) and you never know if you get a DVD5 or DVD9. Recoded Blu-Ray to DVD9 has video-codec H264 (way better than MPEG2) at resolution 1920x1080. You can't play it in a normal DVD-SA, but we are talking about Blu-Ray. So decide for yourself what looks better! Quote:
(haven't calculated correct value for myself, only know that some ppl recode to Blu-Ray-SL) But for myself it is quite sufficent to recode to 8GB and safe some money: Verbatim DVD+DL 8x costs around 1 Euro, Cheapest BD-R 2x costs around 7 Euro | ||
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| New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup In my eyes even the quality loss from 28GB to 8GB isn't that noticable. Most BD movies are overkilled with bitrate and a lousy encoder. So you can archieve nearly same quality with much lower bitrate and good old high quality x264 (open source) encoder. Hm, am late, now off to work... |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie]
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Right on, Wishbringer. Excellent advice. ![]()
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Benders.Big.Score] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie]
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup What else would COPYING be for??
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| CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2005
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup I have to check that out then. But re-encoding? How's the quality compare to the original? Quote:
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup I haven't done that title myself, but, the ones I've done the quality has been excellent. It will of course depend on how big the original video is and how much you need to shrink it. Just like DVD's. Personally I've not the patience for doing this very often. I simply make movie only ISOs and call it good. But I have no burner so shrinking isn't quite as important to me as it would be to someone who wants to fit it on a SL BD-R/E. |
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| New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Even that was written in thes thread before. Before further question in that direction, define "Quality"!! SSIM? PSNR? Blockiness? Ringing? Bitrate? Quants? It's individual, because it's depend on point of view. There is no universal measurement of quality. Encode a movie and look if it is sufficent for you! |
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| New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2007
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Zaina, no there isnt yet ![]() Also, about the quality, i just tested it on a BD-RE, and the Quality was SUPER. I did not see any difference, this is also because bl uses a umounghes decoder space. I have a Sony Bravia 107 CM telly, and i dont see checkerboard or something like that. The only thing i saw was somethings some grain in dark sections, so i put the original in.. an it was also there so... i cant see it... and i'm a real quality cry baby.. ![]() but i can tell you.. it took a long time to encode.. like 2 days.. but i have Pass 2 ![]() enjoy! |
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| New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: I'm Italian but I live in Germany
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup well i used tsmuxer and i had only the movie with languages. Tested with DRAGON TIGER GATE (HK) version
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| New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: I'm Italian but I live in Germany
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Thats true but not all the blu rays are the same. At last i got BEOWULF the movie ripped to Hard Disk was 36GB and with TSMUXER was only 18GB with all the languages.
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup doesn't really matter, you can always re-encode the movie. RipBot264 does a amazing job
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Quote:
i did Underworld as a test, from about 24gb MPEG2 to 11gb h264. i was watching both movies side by side trying to notice anything. there wasn't anything really noticeable.
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup there is, its called Quad Core ![]()
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2004
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Why don't just buy and use 300GB or more External Hard drive for backup purposes, they are so cheap these day. Economically make more sense than using Blu-ray disc which way more expensive. |
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| Admin & Review Coordinator N.America Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Quote:
But TCAS has a good point, I think until Blu-ray disc becomes inexpensive, we can always back them up in harddrive and burn it later. But even that, a 1TB harddrive can only store about 20-ish blu-ray movies.
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| New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2008
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| Re: Tryin to "shrink" a Blu-Ray backup Has anyone had any problems using the RipBot program? I installed all the necessary software about 4 or 5 times and each time I try to run it, it tells me that FFDShow is not installed when in fact I know I installed it. Anyone else encountering this problem? Anyone know how to by pass this problem? |
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