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Blu-ray and HD DVD Hardware, Software and Blank Media Discuss, LG GGC-H20L rip time at International Chat: High Definition forum; Like to compare rip times just to verify that my system is optimized, my kit is as follows: Gigabyte DQ6 mobo, core 2 duo 2.4GHz, 2Gig mem, EVGA 7600GTS graphics card w/DVI, 2TB raid-0 array (2 - 1TB Samsung F1 drives), LG GGC-H20L. I have been ripping


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Old 13-01-2008   #1 (permalink)
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LG GGC-H20L rip time

Like to compare rip times just to verify that my system is optimized, my kit is as follows:

Gigabyte DQ6 mobo, core 2 duo 2.4GHz, 2Gig mem, EVGA 7600GTS graphics card w/DVI, 2TB raid-0 array (2 - 1TB Samsung F1 drives), LG GGC-H20L.

I have been ripping my DVD, HD-DVD & Blu-ray disc collection to my readyNAS NV+ (1.5TB). My process is to first rip from GGC to raid-0 array, then transfer to NAS.

I am averaging 6 - 7 Mb/s for HD-DVD & Blu-rays rips using AnyDVD. It is taking roughly 1-1/2hrs to rip these discs. I then convert the ripped folders into an iso image using ImgBurn. The ImgBurn conversion takes from 35 - 45 min depending on disc size. The ImgBurn conversion is quite choppy, it seems to run in bursts.

Does the rip and ImgBurn conversion times seem reasonable?
Is anyone doing any better with the GGC?


For now, I am viewing the hi def rips on my Samsung 65" DLP HDTV at 1080p from my PC using a DVI/HDMI cable and PowerDVD Ultra (iso's mounted using Daemon tools), PCM output using SPDIF fiber. I also have 3,000 songs in FLAC format streaming wirelessly from my NAS to a Squeezebox.

Ultimately, the plan is to replace both the Squeezebox and the PC with a Media Player (either a Popcorn Hour or a TVix M-6500). Then stream videos (SD & HD), music and photos from NAS to media players.
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Oh it takes me less than 30 minutes to rip an entire hd dvd to my system and my board is pretty old. Kind of odd that it takes you an hour and a half to rip to hdd.
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Re: LG GGC-H20L rip time

The GGC-H20L should take about 30-50 minutes depends on how large the movie is.

ImgBurn conversion time sounds right. But I don't think you need to make an ISO first. You can playback with PowerDVD Ultra from the files (with menus etc). But if you have a BD+ titles (Fantastic4, Live Free or Die Hard and 2 more I forgot the titles), you need a little older PowerDVD Ultra version (3319a).

To playback movie from harddrive with PowerDVD Ultra, click the drive icon located on below the Start button and choose "Open movie file on hard disk drive" (Click here), then choose the parent folder (the main folder above BDMV and CERTIFICATES).
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Oh it takes me less than 30 minutes to rip an entire hd dvd to my system and my board is pretty old. Kind of odd that it takes you an hour and a half to rip to hdd.
What are your typical transfer rates? If you are ripping in half the time as I am, you should be reaching double digits (say 12 - 14 Mb/s)? Are you using AnyDVD to rip your HD-DVD's?
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The GGC-H20L should take about 30-50 minutes depends on how large the movie is.

ImgBurn conversion time sounds right. But I don't think you need to make an ISO first. You can playback with PowerDVD Ultra from the files (with menus etc). But if you have a BD+ titles (Fantastic4, Live Free or Die Hard and 2 more I forgot the titles), you need a little older PowerDVD Ultra version (3319a).

To playback movie from harddrive with PowerDVD Ultra, click the drive icon located on below the Start button and choose "Open movie file on hard disk drive" (Click here), then choose the parent folder (the main folder above BDMV and CERTIFICATES).

zevia, thanks for your reply, I'm using the latest PowerDVD Ultra, attempting to play an HD movie from a parent folder does not seem to be an option (I've tried it), you can however play Blu-Ray m2ts files directly by double clicking them, HD-DVD EVO's are not recognized as of yet.

so, do you think that ripping a 30GB HD disc should not take more than 1hr? what transfer rates have you seen with AnyDVD, over 7 Mb/s?
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zevia, thanks for your reply, I'm using the latest PowerDVD Ultra, attempting to play an HD movie from a parent folder does not seem to be an option (I've tried it), you can however play Blu-Ray m2ts files directly by double clicking them, HD-DVD EVO's are not recognized as of yet.
hxall, as mentioned in my post above, the latest PowerDVD Ultra disable playback from harddrive so you will need to downgrade and find 3319a version.

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so, do you think that ripping a 30GB HD disc should not take more than 1hr? what transfer rates have you seen with AnyDVD, over 7 Mb/s?
Yes no more than 1hr for 30GB HD DVD movie. Perhaps the disc is dirty?
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discs are clean, brand new HD-DVD (Troy) out of the box, are there any particular test programs to verify performance?

would encourage other comments to this post of rip speeds with AnyDVD, as I've said before, I have seen rips to HDD from my GGC in the range of 5.5 to about 7 Mb/s...

if I'm doing my math right, 30GB disc ripped at 7Mb/s is 4,286 seconds or 71 min (1hr and 11min or so), to rip this size disc under an hour you would need a sustained rate of at least 9Mb/s, if anyone is able to reach these speeds I would be interested to know how, thanks...
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zevia,

thanks for the info on PowerDVD, my iso setup works fine and will also work when I migrate to a media player, appreciate the guidance...

does anyone know why ImgBurn works in spurts? mine seems to accelerate to 20 - 30x speeds and then back down to zero for a few minutes (can't hear any drives spinning and other processes slow weigh down) before speeding up again? if it could sustain the 20 - 30x, the conversion would take much less time... encourage others to also post experience with ImgBurn rates, thx
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Re: LG GGC-H20L rip time

Sorry I mixed up the specs of HD DVD and BD read speed.

HD DVD read speed is max 3x meanwhile BD is max 5x on the GGC-H20L.

So for a full 30GB HD DVD movie, you're right it can go between 1 to 1.5 hours to rip the movie.

As for the fluctuating speed you see in AnyDVD ripper, because the drive is using CAV methods where it starts at 1.3x (5840 kb/s) increases up to 3x (13485 kb/s) at layer break and slow down again to 1.3x at the end of the disc. Depends on the disc size, not all will reach the maximum 3x speed at layer break as you can see here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachments...ere-hd_trt.png
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Hi,

this thread is rather old, but I am able to contribute an information which might be helpful to other owners of this drive.

I got my GGC-H20L a few days ago, and when I am ripping a BR disk with Anydvd, at first I also got a speed of ~7MByte/s. I was especially astonished that the speed indicated was constant throughout the whole disk, instead of increasing to the layer break and decreasing after it.

After searching the internet I found the reason for this behavior: There is an incompatibilty between AnyDVD and the driver "SPTD.sys", thats the "SCSI Pass Through Direct (SPTD) layer", which e.g. is included with the daemon tools. But just deinstalling the daemon tools themselve does not solve the problem, since the spdt.sys drivers is not deinstalled by doing so. Instead it is neccessary to get the seperate installer for the sptd.sys driver from

http://www.duplexsecure.com/downloads/

This installer can also be used to deinstall an existing installation of the driver.

After I removed the spdt.sys driver, I got ripping speeds between 9 MByte/s and 19MByte/s from a BR disk, depending on the read position of the disk. And this speed is like it should be according to the specs of the drive.


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