LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner - Club CDFreaks

*Kenshin* · 27-07-2006

An extremely valuable material. Blu-ray 4x is 144Mbps is 18MB/s.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060725/20060725005437.html?.v=1

Quote:

Press Release Source: Hitachi-LG Data Storage

Hitachi-LG Data Storage Develop the Industry's First 4x Blu-ray Disc Drive

Tuesday July 25, 6:00 am ET

TOKYO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 25, 2006--Hitachi-LG Data Storage (under CEO Kazuya Hori) has developed the half-height Blu-ray disc drive GBW-H10N for built-in use in PCs that achieves 4x high-speed recording for the first time in the industry. Production is slated to begin in late July 2006.
This product or so-called super-multi Blu-ray disc drive can record and play back Blu-ray format discs BD-R and BD-RE, play back BD-ROM, record and play back all-format DVDs (DVD-RAM/R/RW, +R/RW), as well as CD-R and CD-RW, and play back DVD-ROM and CD-ROM.

-- Outline of 4x Blu-ray Disc Recording Drive "Super Multi Blue
GBW-H10N"

Product Model Shipping Remarks
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Blu-ray disc drive GBW-H10N OEM
for built-in use in PCs (with ATAPI interface) July 2006 product

The GBW-H10N can record and play back 25GB large-capacity Blu-ray discs BD-R and BD-RE suitable for storing high-quality images. For BD-R in particular, this product achieves quadrupled data transfer speed as fast as 144 Mbps for the first time in the industry. Video data saved on a HDD can be transferred to a disc and a large volume of data backed up in a short time. Moreover, the BD-RE 2x recording speed is realized as the currently highest speed in the industry.

Also for DVD/CD other than Blu-ray discs, the GBW-H10N provides recording and playback functions similar to those of the HLDS conventional super-multi disc drive. Only with this drive can you enjoy 12 types of BD/DVD/CD discs.

By combining the technologies of affiliates, HLDS commercialized the product through comprehensive development starting from key components to the final end product. To support BD/DVD/CD in particular, HLDS newly developed a highly functional optical head and a DSP (1) capable of high-level signal processing in support of various recording formats. In addition to these key components, the LD driver with write strategy, buffer underrun error prevention, and many other technologies accumulated in conventional super-multi drive development were adopted to ensure very stable recording and playback.

(1) Digital Signal Processor (DSP): A digital integrated circuit for controlling recording and playback

The main technologies developed and employed to realize this drive are as follows:

-- 4x High-speed Recording (Blu-ray Disc)
Laser driver IC for data transfer speed as fast as 144 Mbps
was developed, with a high-output blue laser to accommodate
the quadrupled speed employed, and the write-strategy
optimized to realize 4x recording on BD-R (SL). Thus, the
recording time is reduced by half of that of 2x recording.

-- CAV High-speed Playback Up to 4.8x (Blu-ray Disc)
The adaptive equalization and adaptive Viterbi decoding of
high-speed playback signals achieves low-error playback. As a
result, BD-ROM and BD-R (closed disc) can be played back using
4.8x CAV even faster than recording.

-- Highly functional Pickup and DSP
The recording and playback of various discs were realized by
developing a new single-lens 3LD pickup capable of recording
and playing BD, DVD, and CD and a new highly integrated,
highly functional DSP that integrates conventional DVD and CD
signal processing, as well as BD signal processing.

ABOUT HITACHI-LG DATA STORAGE, INC.

Hitachi-LG Data Storage, Inc. is a joint company of Hitachi, Ltd. (NYSE:HIT - News) and LG Electronics, Inc. that started its business in January 2001. We develop and sell optical data storage disc drives for PC OEM and keep top share in the world. Our main products are DVD writable drives, DVD-ROM drives, CD-RW drives, CD-ROM drives and its combination drives. Development sites are located in Tokyo (Japan) and in Pyungtaik (Korea).

-- COMPANY PROFILE

Company Name : Hitachi-LG Data Storage, Inc.
Established : November 22, 2000 (business started on
January 1, 2001)
Head office Location : 4F MSC Center Building
22-23 Kaigan 3-chome, Minato-ku, Tokyo
108-0022 Japan
Phone : +81-3-5427-8600
Representative Director, CEO : Kazuya Hori
Capital Stock : JPY 1,500M

Main Specifications

1. Interface ATAPI (Enhanced IDE Interface)

2. Buffer Memory Size 4Mbytes

3. Recording Speed BD BD-R SL 4x
BD-RE SL 2x
DVD DVD-R SL Max. 12x PCAV
DL 4x
DVD-RW 6x
DVD-RAM 3-5x (PCAV)
+R/RW +R SL Max. 12x PCAV
DL 4x
+RW 8x (ZCLV)
CD CD-R 8x
CD-RW 10x

4. Reading Speed BD BD-R SL Max. 4.8x
BD-RE SL 2x
BD-ROM SL Max. 4.8x
DL Max. 4x
DVD DVD-ROM SL Max. 16x
DL Max. 8x
DVD-R SL Max. 10x
DL Max. 8x
DVD-RW Max. 10x
DVD-RAM 3-5x (PCAV)
+R/RW +R SL Max. 10x
DL Max. 8x
+RW Max. 10x
CD CD-ROM/R Max. 40x
CD-RW Max. 40x

5. Reading Disc Type BD BD-ROM (SL 25GB), (DL 50GB)
BD-R (SL 25GB) (Ver.1.1)
BD-RE (SL 25GB) (Ver.2.1)
DVD DVD-ROM
DVD-R(Ver. 2.1 for General), DVD-R
DL(Dual Layer),
DVD-RW, DVD-RAM(Ver.2.2),
+R/RW DVD+R, DVD+R DL(Double Layer), DVD+RW
CD CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I, Video CD,
CD-Extra,
CD-TEXT
Photo CD, CD-DA, Super Audio CD,
CD-R, CD-RW

6. Recording Disc Type BD BD-R (SL 25GB) (Ver.1.1)
BD-RE(SL 25GB) (Ver.2.1)
DVD DVD-R SL 1.46GB/4.7GB (Ver. 2.1 for
General)
DL 8.5GB (Ver. 3.0)
DVD-RW 1.46GB/4.7GB (Ver. 1.2/ Rev
1.0, 2.0, 3.0)
DVD-RAM 1.46GB/side, 4.7GB/side
(Ver.2.2)
+R/RW DVD+R SL 4.7GB (Ver. 1.3)
DL 8.5GB (Ver. 1.1)
DVD+RW 4.7GB (Vol. 1/Ver.1.3,
Vol. 2/Ver.1.0)
CD CD-R discs conforming to "Orange Book
Part 2"
CD-RW discs conforming to "Orange Book
Part 3"

7. Recording mode BD BD-R: Sequential Recording Mode
with Pseudo-Overwrite
Sequential Recording Mode without
Pseudo-Overwrite
BD-RE: Random Recording
DVD DVD-R: Disc-At-Once, Incremental
Recording
DVD-R DL: Disc at Once, Incremental
Recording,
Layer Jump Recording
DVD-RW : Disc-At-Once, Incremental
Recording
Restricted Overwrite
DVD-RAM : Random Recording
+R/RW DVD+R : Sequential Recording
DVD+R DL: Sequential Recording
DVD+RW : Random Recording
CD CD-R/RW : Disc-At-Once, Track-At-Once,
Session-At-Once, Packet
Write

8. Installation Horizontal, Vertical

9. Power Requirement DC +5V, +12V

10. Dimension 146 (W) x 200(D) x 41.3(H) mm(w/o
Bezel)

11. Weight Approx. 970g

Contact:
Hitachi-LG Data Storage, Inc.
Junya Monma, +81-3-5427-8600
pubinfo@hlds.co.jp
http://www.hlds.co.jp

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Source: Hitachi-LG Data Storage

**zevia** · 27-07-2006

Thanks Kenshin. I've been watching this BD drive since the specs are higher than the other 1st generation BD burners (ie Pioneer, Panasonic etc). 12x PCAV on DVD+R/-R.

But playback copy protected BD movies still will be problems since it needs more than this player alone. Software updates will be available from WinDVD soon. Then we also need graphic card and display with HDMI/HDCP compliance.

*_chef_* · 28-07-2006

Yup, interesting toy.

Zevia, such gfx cards are now available, eg. from Sapphire and MSI. I'd hoped they would eqip HDMI/HDCP on more powerful models ........

drunkndisordly · 01-08-2006

Just a few things from the net about the blue ray burner.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/06/l...ded-to-taiwan/

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives...ay_burner.html

http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...from+HLDS.html

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*agomes* · 01-08-2006

Don't forget also the monitor will require HDMI/HDCP input, otherwise you will only get present DVD equivalent quality (supposing we'll notice a big deal of difference at smaller monitor sizes, and want it).
This will require a considerable pocket effort...just to comply with what DRM stands for.

*_chef_* · 02-08-2006

Yup, most peeps get too excited and forget about that important part of the HDCP chain...

*Kenshin* · 02-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by agomes

Don't forget also the monitor will require HDMI/HDCP input, otherwise you will only get present DVD equivalent quality (supposing we'll notice a big deal of difference at smaller monitor sizes, and want it).
This will require a considerable pocket effort...just to comply with what DRM stands for.

Such upgrades cost far less than Blu-ray burners and Blu-ray players. Getting both Blu-ray burner and Blu-ray player cost at least US$1,500. New monitors with HDMI/HDCP are naturally based on the latest-generation LCD panels. The input option alone can't cost that much. You just need another AD board and more cables.

And to use Blu-ray drive for burning, you don't really need anything other than a PC. Movie playbacks? Better download HD-ripped files of 1920*1080 on HDD's and play them on your Conroe machines.

*agomes* · 03-08-2006

You may be right, but you have to consider all the money you spend over the already expensive drive.
Hope you got the answer about the input option, because with all the new "secure computing" definitions I fear the system will require to know if the end device meets their criteria and that can mean you have to buy new "compatible" monitors to connect to your "compatible" graphics boards, unless there is a way to spare our machines and avoid such hard work to them.

*ala42* · 23-10-2006

LG has released a firmware update for this drive in the mean time. Flasher and firmware are alot like the the ones for the Renesas DVD drives. Here is the media code table:

Code:

Media Code Speed Edit V 1.0.9.2 SE
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Firmware: GBW-H10NMAIN    REV LVL GL04
Bootcode: 
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Overall supported media types:  299
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DVD+R9  supported media types:   10
DVD+R   supported media types:   76
DVD+RW  supported media types:   29
DVD-R9  supported media types:    3
DVD-R   supported media types:  136
DVD-RW  supported media types:   45
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DVD+R9  supported media types:   10
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CMC MAG  D01-000 2.4x
DEFAULT  8X -000 4x,2.4x
INFOME   D01-000 2.4x
MKM      001-000 4x,2.4x
MKM      003-000 4x,2.4x
PHILIPS  CD2-000 2.4x
RICOHJPN D00-001 2.4x
RICOHJPN D01-002 4x,2.4x
RITEK    D01-001 2.4x
RITEK    S01-001 2.4x

DVD+R   supported media types:   76
------------------------------------------
         001-000 2.4x
         001-000 8x,4x
AML      001-000 4x,2.4x
AML      002-000 8x,4x
BEALL P0 001-000 2.4x
BeAll000 P40-000 4x,2.4x
BeAll000 P80-000 8x,4x
BeAll000 PG0-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
CMC MAG  E01-000 8x,4x
CMC MAG  F01-000 4x,2.4x
CMC MAG  M01-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
CMC MAG  R01-000 2.4x
DAXON    AZ2-000 8x,4x
DAXON    AZ3-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
DAXON    CY3-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
DEFAULT  16 -000 12x,8x,4x
DEFAULT  2_4-000 2.4x
DEFAULT  4  -000 4x,2.4x
DEFAULT  8  -000 8x,4x
IMC JPN  R01-000 8x,4x
INFODISC R20-000 8x,4x
INFOME   R20-000 8x,4x
INFOME   R30-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
IS01     001-000 4x,2.4x
LGEP16   001-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
MAM..... M04-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
MAXELL   001-000 4x,2.4x
MAXELL   002-000 12x,8x,4x
MAXELL   003-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
MBIPG101 R04-001 8x,4x
MBIPG101 R05-001 16x,12x,8x,4x
MCC..... 001-000 2.4x
MCC..... 002-000 4x,2.4x
MCC..... 003-000 12x,8x,4x
MCC..... 004-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
NAN YA   FLX-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
NANYA    CHX-000 8x,4x
NANYA    CLX-000 8x,4x
NSD      R40-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
OPTODISC 001-000 8x,4x
OPTODISC OP1-001 2.4x
OPTODISC OR8-000 8x,4x
OPTODISC R16-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
PHILIPS  C08-000 8x,4x
PHILIPS  C16-001 16x,12x,8x,4x
PRODISC  R01-001 2.4x
PRODISC  R02-000 4x,2.4x
PRODISC  R03-003 8x,4x
PRODISC  R04-004 16x,12x,8x,4x
PRODISC  R05-001 16x,12x,8x,4x
Philips  081-000 8x,4x
Plasmon2 C01-000 12x,8x,4x
RICOHJPN R00-001 2.4x
RICOHJPN R01-002 4x,2.4x
RICOHJPN R02-003 12x,8x,4x
RICOHJPN R03-004 12x,8x,4x
RITEK    M02-001 4x,2.4x
RITEK    P16-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
RITEK    R01-001 2.4x
RITEK    R02-001 4x,2.4x
RITEK    R03-001 8x,4x
RITEK    R03-002 8x,4x
RITEK    R04-001 16x,12x,8x,4x
RITEK    R05-001 12x,8x,4x
SONY     D01-000 4x,2.4x
SONY     D11-000 8x,4x
SONY     D21-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
TDK      001-000 4x,2.4x
TDK      002-000 12x,8x,4x
TDK      003-000 12x,8x,4x
TDK      003-000 16x,12x,8x,4x
WFKA11   211-000 8x,4x
YUDEN000 T01-000 4x,2.4x
YUDEN000 T01-001 4x,2.4x
YUDEN000 T02-000 12x,8x,4x
YUDEN000 T03-000 16x,12x,8x,4x

DVD+RW  supported media types:   29
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CMC MAG  W01-000 2.4x
CMC MAG  W02-000 4x,2.4x
CMC MAG  W03-000 8x,4x
DAXON    D42-000 4x,2.4x
DEFAULT  2_4-000 2.4x
DEFAULT  4  -000 4x,2.4x
DEFAULT  8  -000 8x,4x
INFODISC A01-001 2.4x
INFODISC A10-001 4x,2.4x
MBIPG101 W04-000 4x,2.4x
MCC..... A01-000 2.4x
MKM      A02-000 4x,2.4x
MKM      A03-000 8x,4x
NANYA    DRW-000 4x,2.4x
OPTODISC OP1-001 2.4x
OPTODISC OP4-001 4x,2.4x
PHILIPS  010-049 2.4x
PHILIPS  041-000 4x,2.4x
PHILIPS  RW8-000 8x,4x
PRODISC  W01-002 2.4x
PRODISC  W02-000 4x,2.4x
RICOHJPN W01-001 2.4x
RICOHJPN W11-001 4x,2.4x
RICOHJPN W21-001 8x,4x
RITEK    001-001 4x,2.4x
RITEK    004-048 4x,2.4x
RITEK    008-000 8x,4x
SENTINEL W02-000 4x,2.4x
SONY     S11-000 4x,2.4x

DVD-R9  supported media types:    3
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DEFAULT         4x,2x
MKM 01RD30      4x,2x
MKM 03RD30      8x,4x

DVD-R   supported media types:  136
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1FUJIFILM       1x
AML             4x,2x
AN32            4x,2x
BEAll G001      1x
BeAll G16001    16x,12x,8x,4x
BeAll G40001    4x,2x
BeAll G80001    8x,4x
BeAllG00001     1x
CMC MAG.        1x
CMC MAG. AE1    8x,4x
CMC MAG. AF1    4x,2x
CMC MAG. AM3    16x,12x,8x,4x
CMC00RG200      1x
CMC00RG300      1x
DATA TRACK      4x,2x
DAXON008S       8x,4x
DAXON016        16x,12x,8x,4x
DAXON016S       16x,12x,8x,4x
DEFAULT 16X     12x,8x,4x
DEFAULT 2X      2x
DEFAULT 4X      4x,2x
DEFAULT 8X      8x,4x
Dvsn            4x,2x
Dvsn A001       4x,2x
Dvsn-80         8x,4x
FUJIFILM02      4x,2x
FUJIFILM03      8x,4x
FUJIFILM04      16x,12x,8x,4x
GSC001          4x,2x
GSC001          1x
GSC001          4x,2x
GSC002          4x,2x
GSC003          8x,4x
GSC004          8x,4x
IMC JPN R01     8x,4x
INFOD K-R01     1x
INFODISC-R01    4x,2x
INFODISC-R20    8x,4x
INFOMEDIAR20    8x,4x
INFOSMART01     4x,2x
KIC 00RG200     1x
KIC01RG080      8x,4x
KIC01RG20       4x,2x
LEADDATA01      4x,2x
LGE             1x
LGE04           4x,2x
LGE08           8x,4x
LGE16           16x,12x,8x,4x
LONGTEN 001     1x
LONGTEN 001     4x,2x
MAM8XG01        8x,4x
MAMSXG01        16x,12x,8x,4x
MBI 01RG20      4x,2x
MBI 01RG40      16x,12x,8x,4x
MBI 03RG30      8x,4x
MBI 03RG40      16x,12x,8x,4x
MCC 00RG200     1x
MCC 01RG20      4x,2x
MCC 02RG20      8x,4x
MCC 03RG20      16x,12x,8x,4x
MCIG01          1x
MEI 00V001      1x
MEI 00V002      4x,2x
MEI 00V003      2x
MUST 001        4x,2x
MUST 003        8x,4x
MXL RG01        1x
MXL RG01        1x
MXL RG02        4x,2x
MXL RG03        8x,4x
MXL RG04        12x,8x,4x
MXL RG04        16x,12x,8x,4x
NAN YA A01      8x,4x
NAN YA F02      16x,12x,8x,4x
NANYA-JC001     4x,2x
NSDR40          16x,12x,8x,4x
ONIDTECH        4x,2x
OPTODISC        1x
OPTODISCK001    1x
OPTODISCK001    4x,2x
OPTODISCK001    4x,2x
OPTODISCR004    4x,2x
OPTODISCR004    4x,2x
OPTODISCR008    8x,4x
OPTODISCR016    16x,12x,8x,4x
POSG04          4x,2x
PRINCO         1x
PRINCO          1x
PRINCO          4x,2x
PRINCO          4x,2x
PRINCO          4x,2x
PRINCO          4x,2x
PRINCO          4x,2x
PRINCO          4x,2x
PRINCO8X02      8x,4x
PRODISCG02      1x
PVC001001       1x
PVCR001002      4x,2x
ProdiscF01      8x,4x
ProdiscF02      16x,12x,8x,4x
ProdiscS03      4x,2x
ProdiscS04      8x,4x
ProdiscS05      16x,12x,8x,4x
RITEKF1         16x,12x,8x,4x
RITEKG01        1x
RITEKG03        1x
RITEKG04        4x,2x
RITEKG05        8x,4x
RITEKG06        8x,4x
RITEKG07        16x,12x,8x,4x
RITEKM02        4x,2x
RITEKM16        16x,12x,8x,4x
SKC Co.,Ltd.    1x
SKC Co.,Ltd.    4x,2x
SKC Co.,Ltd.    4x,2x
SONY            1x
SONY04D1        4x,2x
SONY08D1        8x,4x
SONY16D1        16x,12x,8x,4x
TAIYOYUDEN..    1x
TAROKO-MX4      4x,2x
TDKG010000d9    1x
TDKG02000000    1x
TTG01           4x,2x
TTG02           8x,4x
TTH01           8x,4x
TTH02           12x,8x,4x
TTH02           16x,12x,8x,4x
TYG01           4x,2x
TYG02           8x,4x
TYG02           8x,4x
TYG03           16x,12x,8x,4x
UME01           8x,4x
UTJR001001      4x,2x
VANGUARD01      8x,4x
VDSPMSAB 01     4x,2x

DVD-RW  supported media types:   45
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CMCW02          2x
CMCW03          4x,2x
CMCW04          6x,4x,2x
DAXON_RW2X01    2x
DEFAULT 1X      1x
DEFAULT 2X      2x
DEFAULT 4X      4x,2x
DEFAULT 6X      6x,4x,2x
INFOMEDIAA20    4x,2x
JVC/VictorT7    1x
JVC0VictorD7    4x,2x
JVC1Victord7    6x,4x,2x
JVC_VictorW7    1x
JVC_VictorW7    2x
JVC_VictorW7    2x
MBI01RWG 20     4x,2x
MCC 00RW11N9    1x
MCC 01RW11n9    2x
MCC 01RW11n9    2x
MCC 01RW4X      4x,2x
MKM 01RW6X01    6x,4x,2x
OPTODISCK001    1x
OPTODISCK001    2x
OPTODISCW002    2x
OPTODISCW004    4x,2x
PRINCO          1x
PRINCO          2x
PVCW000001Q9    1x
PVCW00D002K9    2x
PVCW00V00245    2x
Prodisc DW04    2x
Prodisc DW06    4x,2x
ProdiscDVDRW    1x
RITEK000V11A    1x
RITEK004V11     1x
RITEKW01        2x
RITEKW04        4x,2x
RITEKW06        6x,4x,2x
SONY000000U9    1x
TDK401saku=3    1x
TDK501saku]3    1x
TDK502sakuM3    2x
TDK502sakuM3    2x
TDK601saku      4x,2x
TDK701saku      6x,4x,2x

*Kenshin* · 24-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by agomes

You may be right, but you have to consider all the money you spend over the already expensive drive.

Budget-conscious consumers should avoid buying anything like this in the first place. Get a US$29 18x DVD burner and be happy. Until a 8x Blu-ray/ HD DVD burner costs under US$100.

**zevia** · 16-11-2006

Some information about this LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray drive:

1. Nero InfoTools shows supported read/write features.

2. Nero Burning ROM 7 shows support of bitsetting and BD defect management.

3. RENESAS R8J32700FPV chipset

**zevia** · 16-11-2006

Now let's see some scans...

LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray, Firmware GL04
MCC004 (Verbatim 16x DVD+R) burned at 12x

1. Burned at 12x PCAV in 5:59 minutes. Pretty fast!
2. Disc quality scan by Liteon SHM-165P6S.
3. Disc quality scan by BenQ DW1655.
4. Transfer rate test in NEC ND-4570A.

Excellent write quality and smooth read-back test.

~

**zevia** · 16-11-2006

LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray, Firmware GL04
YUDEN000T02 (Taiyo Yuden unbranded 8x DVD+R) burned at 12x

1. Burned at 12x Z-CLV.

2. Disc quality scan by Liteon SHM-165P6S.
3. Transfer rate test in NEC ND-4570A.

Again excellent write quality.

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*KTL* · 16-11-2006

Wow, very nice.

*lui_gough* · 16-11-2006

The jitter in the first scan looks questionable ... however ... *sigh* if only the drive was cheaper :| I would definitely want one .... *sigh* i'll jump on it when it reaches $300AUD!

I'm thinking Blu_Ray for DATA .... 10 discs = 250Gb for SL ... can't wait for BD-R.DL which means 5 discs = 250Gb ! Easy backup solution finally, even if it's a little expensive. BD-RE migh work effectively for backup. Don't want to think about burning 4.38Gb at a time which currently is a tire - hence I've never backed up my "data" drives.

*_chef_* · 16-11-2006

Nice update.
Seems that Mount Rainier is a dead cow and still only 2mb Buffer?

TheDangerousBros · 16-11-2006

RPC1 and Auto-Reset patches for those who like those kind of things.
http://tdb.rpc1.org/#GBWH10N

Brother Vlad

**mciahel** · 16-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDangerousBros

RPC1 and Auto-Reset patches for those who like those kind of things.

Isn't that drive "defective by design"?

scnr,
Michael

minaelromany · 17-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by mciahel

Isn't that drive "defective by design"?

scnr,
Michael

Good one Michael

I , for one , would not buy a BD-RE drive untill this DRM crap is either cracked or companies let go of it

*Kenshin* · 19-11-2006

GBW-H10N is selling in South Korea for about US$1,000 including 10 percent domestic VAT tax.

http://pc.danawa.com/price_new.html?...=861&cate2=878

Of course, I'm not interested to have one if offered for US$200 because the media are still highly priced (at like US$30 per 23GB when one can buy a 300GB for under US$100.) Meanwhile, Samsung has officially announced T166 series 16MB buffer SATA II HDD product family last week in Seoul.

27-07-2006	#2 (permalink)
zevia Admin & Review Coordinator N.America Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 9,810	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner Thanks Kenshin. I've been watching this BD drive since the specs are higher than the other 1st generation BD burners (ie Pioneer, Panasonic etc). 12x PCAV on DVD+R/-R. But playback copy protected BD movies still will be problems since it needs more than this player alone. Software updates will be available from WinDVD soon. Then we also need graphic card and display with HDMI/HDCP compliance. __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray \| LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

28-07-2006	#3 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Bender's.Game] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,394	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner Yup, interesting toy. Zevia, such gfx cards are now available, eg. from Sapphire and MSI. I'd hoped they would eqip HDMI/HDCP on more powerful models ........ __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

01-08-2006	#4 (permalink)
drunkndisordly New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Seoul Posts: 22	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner Just a few things from the net about the blue ray burner. http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/06/l...ded-to-taiwan/ http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives...ay_burner.html http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...from+HLDS.html ------

01-08-2006	#5 (permalink)
agomes CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,020	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner Don't forget also the monitor will require HDMI/HDCP input, otherwise you will only get present DVD equivalent quality (supposing we'll notice a big deal of difference at smaller monitor sizes, and want it). This will require a considerable pocket effort...just to comply with what DRM stands for.

02-08-2006	#6 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Bender's.Game] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,394	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner Yup, most peeps get too excited and forget about that important part of the HDCP chain... __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

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03-08-2006	#8 (permalink)
agomes CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,020	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner You may be right, but you have to consider all the money you spend over the already expensive drive. Hope you got the answer about the input option, because with all the new "secure computing" definitions I fear the system will require to know if the end device meets their criteria and that can mean you have to buy new "compatible" monitors to connect to your "compatible" graphics boards, unless there is a way to spare our machines and avoid such hard work to them.

16-11-2006	#14 (permalink)
KTL CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,068	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner Wow, very nice. __________________ Codeguys How To: Enable Samsung Scanning in CD-DVD Speed Enable SolidBurn in CD-DVD Speed Remove upper and lower filters Check Silicon Image add-on controller cards

16-11-2006	#15 (permalink)
lui_gough CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: .au/sydney Posts: 1,025	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner The jitter in the first scan looks questionable ... however ... sigh if only the drive was cheaper :\| I would definitely want one .... sigh i'll jump on it when it reaches $300AUD! I'm thinking Blu_Ray for DATA .... 10 discs = 250Gb for SL ... can't wait for BD-R.DL which means 5 discs = 250Gb ! Easy backup solution finally, even if it's a little expensive. BD-RE migh work effectively for backup. Don't want to think about burning 4.38Gb at a time which currently is a tire - hence I've never backed up my "data" drives. __________________ Drives I Own (and are in use in one of my many computers): - 3x BenQ DW1640 - 2x Pioneer DVR-111L - LG 4163B - Liteon SOHW-1633@1653s - Nu-Tech DDW-082 - Liteon 166s - Pioneer 120S - BenQ 1650s - LG GCE-8523B - Liteon LTR-5224 - BenQ 5224W - Liteon SOSW-852S - Philips DVD+-RW SDVD8820 - Ricoh MP7163A - Asus CD-S500/A

16-11-2006	#16 (permalink)
_chef_ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...watching [Bender's.Game] [Tripping.The.Rift.The.Movie] Posts: 24,394	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner Nice update. Seems that Mount Rainier is a dead cow and still only 2mb Buffer? __________________ Started with burning capable optical drives (CD-R) in 1997. Bought optical drives from AOpen, HP, LiteOn, NEC, Philips, Pioneer, Plextor, Ricoh, Samsung, Sanyo, Toshiba and Yamaha. *'Things are now in motion that cannot be undone.' [Gandalf, LoTR]* Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please start by using the powerful SEARCH.

16-11-2006	#17 (permalink)
TheDangerousBros FirmWare Freaks Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Number 52 Festive Road Posts: 471	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner RPC1 and Auto-Reset patches for those who like those kind of things. http://tdb.rpc1.org/#GBWH10N Brother Vlad __________________ Support Defective by Design . ORG - The campaign to eliminate DRM

19-11-2006	#20 (permalink)
Kenshin CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Near Seoul, South Korea Posts: 12,382	Re: LG GBW-H10N 4x Blu-ray Burner GBW-H10N is selling in South Korea for about US$1,000 including 10 percent domestic VAT tax. http://pc.danawa.com/price_new.html?...=861&cate2=878 Of course, I'm not interested to have one if offered for US$200 because the media are still highly priced (at like US$30 per 23GB when one can buy a 300GB for under US$100.) Meanwhile, Samsung has officially announced T166 series 16MB buffer SATA II HDD product family last week in Seoul. __________________ Kill Confucius

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