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Old 15-02-2008   #281 (permalink)
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hdseeker; Believe me if ever that happen will take another 2-3 year before the market face the single format player. Meanwhile we will enjoy the best quality picture view plus the advantage of upconverting of HD player which blue lacks so far. So even @ worse case scenario you have player that convert all DVD movies for the near quality of HD.
Tcas, well I enjoy the picture quality alright but I really want new movies and with limited amount of movie selection, I can't enjoy it. I know the marketing says "near HD" but on my 40 LCD, watching DVD doesn't even close to the HD DVD version. I have several discs on both DVD and HD DVD and I can really tell the difference. The other day we watched Live Free or Die Hard on DVD and a friend watched it on Blu-ray, he said it was good. I like action movies but just sucks there's no HD version on it. Anyway Blu and HD combo is out of reach for me, they are like 700-800 bucks.

And what do you mean by "the advantage of upconverting of HD player which blue lacks so far"? I thought blu player can also upconvert DVD? or did I missed something?

Oh I read a few pages back and Bob also mentioned that blu can't upconvert DVD?
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walmart just dropped hddvd...and toshiba will as well soon
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Thanks for the replies Bob and Tcas. Interesting that you have a local rental, I bet it's not hollywood or blockbuster. Can you get the manager to find you good movies and reserve them for you? Very fortunate!

Well well, just read the news from hollywood reporter that their sources tell our dear toshiba will drop hd dvd. I guess I will have to be quick before everyone selling their players. I invested around 300+ bucks on the player and hd movies in the past 6 weeks and hope that I don't loose a lot. Even if I loose a bit Ill consider it as entertainment budget like you go to theaters and pay tickets. Oh well...
Actually it's the new owners of Hollywood Video (Movie Gallery). I don't have to ask him he already has many titles of HD-DVD's

Very small amount over regular DVD's. Actually if i rent 3 regular DVD's and i can get a HD-DVD for free.
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I know I've said this multiple times since Warner decided to go Blu, but, what can the HD DVD camp REALLY do at this point? The superbowl ads have not improved sales, Best Buy and Netflix all but dropped support for HD DVD, Walmart is dropping support for it in June, and rumors are swirling(JUST RUMORS!!) around the Net that Toshiba's ready to give it up and drop HD DVD. Those clinging to some kind of hope that HD DVD can turn this around have not seen a lot of good news lately. I for one wouldn't put my money on HD DVD at this point. In fact, I haven't put my money on HD DVD since Xmas as I refuse to buy any more discs in the format. We can sit here and debate the merits of HD DVD vs Blu-ray vs DVD all we want, but, in the end, if you're a straight HD DVD owner content is going to start becoming pretty scarce soon. Does anyone believe that Paramount and Universal are going to just sit this one out and stick with HD DVD? It seems very unlikely. By this summer, this game is over I'm afraid. This is of course only my opinion but it's not based on speculation and conjecture...it's based on what's going on before our eyes in the market.
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I'm glad i got my player and movies free. And yeah i guess i'll go down with the ship glug glug
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You can't sit and make life though for you about you may die few months or year from now. We the HD player owners can not effort to get to nervous breakdown about HD will vanish soon or when. We will enjoy the HD quality of what we have and don't worry what will may happen along the way.
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You can't sit and make life though for you about you may die few months or year from now. We the HD player owners can not effort to get to nervous breakdown about HD will vanish soon or when. We will enjoy the HD quality of what we have and don't worry what will may happen along the way.
oh i'm still happy with my HD-A3 TCAS no doubt about that
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Play your DVD's on a Blu-ray player and see how they look. Why anyone would buy a player that cannot play/upconvert the regular DVD discs
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Meanwhile we will enjoy the best quality picture view plus the advantage of upconverting of HD player which blue lacks so far.
Oh wow!! Two CD Freaks Guru spreading MISINFORMATION!!

Those are completely BS statements showing how uneducated you both are, or just a dull comment from depressed HD DVD fan boys.


Blu-ray player can play CD
Blu-ray player can play DVD and upscale it via HDMI
Blu-ray player can play Blu-ray Disc
Blu-ray player CANNOT play HD DVD disc

HD DVD player can play CD
HD DVD player can play DVD and upscale it
HD DVD player can play HD DVD disc
HD DVD player CANNOT play Blu-ray disc


Blu-ray/HD DVD dual format (combo) player can play all of the above!

Oh while I'm at it... both Blu-ray and HD DVD player CANNOT upscale CD !! Don't forget that!
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Oh wow!! Two CD Freaks Guru spreading MISINFORMATION!!

Those are completely BS statements showing how uneducated you both are, or just a dull comment from depressed HD DVD fan boys.


Blu-ray player can play CD
Blu-ray player can play DVD and upscale it via HDMI
Blu-ray player can play Blu-ray Disc
Blu-ray player CANNOT play HD DVD disc

HD DVD player can play CD
HD DVD player can play DVD and upscale it
HD DVD player can play HD DVD disc
HD DVD player CANNOT play Blu-ray disc


Blu-ray/HD DVD dual format (combo) player can play all of the above!

Oh while I'm at it... both Blu-ray and HD DVD player CANNOT upscale CD !! Don't forget that!
Welcome to CDF's:

I'll do what i can to see that you make Guru on 2 posts here.......

Nope not depressed i have no money in my purchase.......did you read that part also?
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@bourned, I admit that there have been some incorrect statements and hopefully we now know that a blu-ray player can upscale DVD like HD DVD player does.

So Bob and bourned, calm down please.

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As I have said before, I can burn hd content to regular dvd media and it plays nicely in 1080i and up to 5.1 sound so that alone is worth the cost of the player to me. I put my HDTV card back in my box because now I can edit and burn the HD shows I cap very easily and cheaply. I do think Sony bought off everyone they could, then pushed the playstation with a BD drive out there to capture as much share as they could, then count them all as standalone blue sales. If Microsoft would have just included the HD drive in their XBox this might have been very different now. If nothing else at this point the Toshiba HD players are some of the best upscalling dvd players out there, and just happen to play a HD format as well.

I really wanted a combo hd player but when the prices dropped to under 100 with a bunch of free movies it was time to jump.
There are quite a few first gen BD players getting discontinued pretty cheap now so I'll probably get one of those so I can be happily purple, even if they wont have complete specs.
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Meh. With the cost of the player and the freebees that come with it and all of the sales that are currently available AND WILL BE AVAILABLE, then it really doesn't matter if the format tanks. With an A3 running you $120 shipped with 7 free movies and Amazon.com, Barnes And Noble and Deep Discount DVD currently offering between 100-150 titles (virtually all of them are from the studios that are still currently HD-DVD exclusive) for $10-$15 a piece how do you go wrong? Furthermore by the time they finally get around to being produced on Blu-Ray you will have had months to enjoy them AND it will be a long time before you could get them that cheap. If nothing else you will have enough high-def content to keep you satisfied until Blu-Ray becomes finalized and affordable.
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There is that, I suppose. I don't think I'll be buying any more HD DVD's at this point. Unless I see something I REALLY want that's not on Blu AND is $10-$15. I mean, I have the capability of playing either format so it really doesn't matter, but, my friends like to borrow my movies. Right now none of them have joined the HD era, but, eventually they will and I guarantee they'll be going Blu. But it is hard to pass up really good deals, so, if I see something I must have then I'll consider it. I'm just not going out of my way to buy anything else on HD DVD.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...37974620080216

Take that how you will. It's not official (yet) but, it seems it's finally over.
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Well I did it yesterday as Circuit City is blowing out a bunch of discontinued hd players right now. I found a Panasonic DMP-BD10A for 169 on the demo table with all the important goodies and a full warranty, they also had a BEAT Toshiba A-20 I didn't ask about. They at first wanted 189 but after a few no answers about a better deal the head guy came around and dropped it to 169 for me.
For those of you that might want to go purple this is a great way to do it cheap before all the deals are gone. This unit has a bunch of surprisingly advanced features for a first gen player so I think it's well worth it even if it's only profile 1. The reviews for it mostly say it plays BD movies with excellent quality as well.
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Regardless of whether is all over or any other bad news on HD, I had decided to stay with my A3 (even though I have a choice to return it for full refund) and enjoy the Quality of HD. Blue is out of question for me for the time being unless the price for the Player drops to $100 or less and Recorder for below $200.
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Yup and as mentioned above you have plenty of options for purchasing a bunch of cheap HD-DVD titles right now.
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Yeh, but according to Barnes And Noble web site their prices for HD-DVd are way above any retail price also stores near me don't carry any one you have to order it online. But the prices are way high.
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http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/...kpZAeqNBaW.php

it's pretty much over for real this time... blu-ray wins.
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Yeh, but according to Barnes And Noble web site their prices for HD-DVd are way above any retail price also stores near me don't carry any one you have to order it online. But the prices are way high.
Uh, you didn't read my thread about the deals, did you?

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f58/little-...-noble-238623/

Ended up getting The Fast And The Furious Tokyo Drift for $14.83 shipped from them when all was said and done (with free 3 day shipping). Pretty good considering regular price is $25-$30 pretty much everywhere and even the amazon sale only brings it down to $20.
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