I would like point out something else regardless of HD or BD most HDTV sold so far LCD and plasma are 1366x768 native res, and the crt HD tvs are 1080i true there are a lot of new HDTV in last few months that are true 1080p sets but most of sets out there projection LCD plasma are not. so far we have heard HD has better picture quality over blu and blu has more data space, but the question I have is are all the people that say PQ is poor on the players really knowing what their TV res is doing this happens on blu and HD 1080p down scaled in players to 1080i to 1080i TV if the tv is 1366x768 down scaled again to 720p then up to 768p there quality loss alone from HD media player HD or BD to none 1080p set is very large factor in how people see picture quality. food for thought.

True but that's now. We're talking about tomorrows technology and not todays. Yes most plasma's are 1366x768 like mine (Panasonic) but technology goes on and eventually most will be 1080p. Except the cheaper brands.

Currently all the high name brands have 1080p on the market. Customers that plan on getting the HD / Blu-Ray players soon are likely to get a 1080p or already have a 1080p display. They usually want the best and newest technology.

Unfortunately there are no plans in the near future that will broadcast (cable / sat) in 1080p, just 1080i. That's ok for me because I usually watch movies on DVD. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having my local channels @ 1080p.

From what I've read, I probably want the Blu-Ray because Blu-Ray has greater capacity (50 GB > 30 GB) and greater bandwidth (48 Mbps > 30 Mbps) than HD-DVD. Also better hardware and software. Again this is what I've read.

Either way I'll be going with what ever format the market chooses.

I'm definitely waiting a while until the formats are both properly tested by the cdfreaks here

At least we get combo players now, thats a success.

Well, according to a post on CDRLabs by Ian, the LG combo HDDVD/BluRay unit at CES is not even a working model, and the launch date is supposed to be in February. I wouldn't be surprised if the unit gets pushed back or even dropped completely, like all the previous attempts at a dual format player.

just heard on the news that companies will support both in the worse case scenerio.... blu ray on one side and hd dvd on the other side.

I'm a bit confused about what you've just said.

To me, your post implies that there's going to be a dual sided, dual format disc, is that what you're trying to say? Or have I completely got the wrong end of the stick?

He's talking about Total HD Disc by Warner Bros.

But not dual format right?

Well I have to correct myself, it's single-sided dual layer disc

Well that's old news.

I'm not sure if we understand each other, it's dual layer disc - one layer for BD / one for HD DVD, both formats on the same side

there are rumours they are thinking about add DVD on the flip side

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Yup, have just seen that info yet. Darn, they put some non HD DVD logo on that bugger to cheat on the consumers again.

Then how is that a Dual Layer disc? The words 'Dual Layer' implies that there is 2 layers of the same disc format on 1 disc i.e. double capacity disc.

So shouldn't a disc that conforms to both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD technology be called a 'Dual Format' disc? Because that is essentially what the disc is - a disc designed to be played on both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD format players.

Mmmh, if you start arguing semantics, don't forget that capitals ("Dual Layer" vs. simply "dual layer") have their importance . These disc do have two layers, so "dual layer" is correct, even though I understand you point. Also don't forget that Sonoluca's mother language is not english (neither is it mine for that matter).

Dual Layer, dual sided, dual formats...
Who wants to clean up the mess?

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Yeah, you're right, soneman, my mistake. What i wanted to say was "the disc has two layers".

Maybe solution is following,with today's DVDRW prices

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtop...=163680#163680
http://www.lge.com/about/press_relea...E%7CMENU.jhtml

I so do not volunteer...!