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Blu-ray and HD DVD Hardware, Software and Blank Media Discuss, Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD at International Chat: High Definition forum; Well, after researching several sites, it appears HD-DVD is supported by more companies than Blu-ray. I hope this isn't true as Blu-ray does seem like a better media from what I can tell (definitely from a storage amount standpoint: 50GB dual layer, 25GB single). However, I


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Old 14-10-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD

Well, after researching several sites, it appears HD-DVD is supported by more companies than Blu-ray. I hope this isn't true as Blu-ray does seem like a better media from what I can tell (definitely from a storage amount standpoint: 50GB dual layer, 25GB single). However, I also read that supposedly HD-DVD is true HD whereas Blu-ray doesn't achieve true HD readings but very close...assuming one has a true HD TV as well as HD box.

I'm also posting a poll as to which format you intend to upgrade to once it is signficantly cheaper.
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* * Added a fourth poll option: I don't know or haven't decided yet * *
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Nice addition :-)
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Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD

I prefer Blu-Ray just for storage capacity and the Blue color of media vs red for HD-DVD
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Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD

I haven't decided yet. I'm still waiting for further developments
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Yep, I voted "haven't decided yet" - we'll see when things change a bit, i.e. prices of drives etc.
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Yep, I voted "haven't decided yet" - we'll see when things change a bit, i.e. prices of drives etc.
You're waiting to see first scans here in the forum
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There should be an option "whichever one is first made Fair Use", i.e. backupable.
..undesided..
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There should be an option "whichever one is first made Fair Use", i.e. backupable.
..undesided..
YES!!!

@Geno - scans, moi?
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YES!!!

@Geno - scans, moi?
ehm.. let me think.... YESSSS
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There should be an option "whichever one is first made Fair Use", i.e. backupable.
It's a nice suggestion.
I'll add such an option if arif1979 agrees.
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I think the number of poll options is currently enough.
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Well, anyone choosing to wait til the media can be backed up can post in the thread, as myself and FidelC have done, I guess.
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Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD

We should vote for the storage technology that is reliable with no degradation and with maximum durability that would hold our precious data safe forever
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We should vote for the storage technology that is reliable with no degradation and with maximum durability that would hold our precious data safe forever
Got a crystal ball on you?
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Got a crystal ball on you?
/me suggests Arachne to check where minaelromany comes from

pyramids still contains a lot of intormation after thousands of years

but what a burner it will be necessary to write data on stones
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/me suggests Arachne to check where minaelromany comes from

pyramids still contains a lot of intormation after thousands of years

but what a burner it will be necessary to write data on stones


LOL@Arachne

Seriously though : don't you think that OD manufacturers should do some more effort to get durable storage discs that would realy end our problems ?

I myself have encountered numerous data loss from (HDDs , CDs and DVDs) and would realy like a solution
Is it realy hard for manufacturers to make a disc that is unbreakable , scratch proof and can hold data forever ?

Oh , maybe wishful thinking , but I like dreaming
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Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD

Holographic?

Out of the available options I picked neither, but only because the fair use option was.. not an option.
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Reloading Beta vs. VHs?
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I chose Blu-ray because I already have the drive (Panasonic) and plenty of leftover BD-RE media from the reviews (thank to the senders).
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I'm just sticking to DVD. I don't see the point of switching unless you have a HD TV.
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I expect it to take quite a while until we know what we get so i stock dvdr media and wait
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Well, after researching several sites, it appears HD-DVD is supported by more companies than Blu-ray.
Not true at the moment.Keep in mind the following.
HD-DVD likes to list different devisions of the same parent companny as different compannies.
Also if you compare HD-DVD-R support list vs Blu Ray support list then blu ray still lists more compannies even if you don't pick out the different devisions.



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I hope this isn't true as Blu-ray does seem like a better media from what I can tell (definitely from a storage amount standpoint: 50GB dual layer, 25GB single). However, I also read that supposedly HD-DVD is true HD whereas Blu-ray doesn't achieve true HD readings but very close...assuming one has a true HD TV as well as HD box.
Untrue again.

Maybe we should start a FAQ on HD-DVD and BLu RAY and all known errors and rumours that are out there.!
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Am I mistaken? I thought that HD-DVD was alot further ahead of Blu-ray in terms of ready to go. I have seen Blu-ray been pushed out ahead of time. It is trying, in my opinion, to beat HD-DVD to market. I think that this might cause problems if they have rushed it. Blu-ray is great technology but it leaves less room for error that HD-DVD.
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