This combo supports HD-DVD only rudimentary, therefore it hasn't the REAL HD-DVD logo..............

We are talking about blu-ray here and this player was made initially as a blu-ray disc player with the hd dvd capability added on. That doesn't explain why it won't play a Blu-Ray disc with a Blu-Ray image on it.

New BD features were already added and the specs updated, so even such a player will be outdated easily. I wanna just mention BD+ and spec 1.1.

I hope you don't get me wrong here, I don't mean to be a pain. The blu-ray disc that I have is Planet Earth. I attempted putting the first of the four discs on to my hard drive using the method which is so well illustrated in this post. I believe the kids call it "ripping". I needed to make a back-up copy because my children are also using the disc. In other words, I give them the copy and preserve the original. Therefore, once the disc has been "ripped" successfully to the hard drive, and the BD drive then successfully "burns" it to the blank disc, what difference does it make if it is a BD+ 1.1 or otherwise. If what your are saying is the case, then the original disc would NOT play in my stand alone player either. If everything I mentioned was successful why does the copy not play? What is NOT being copied over in the original transfer? I understand that if the companies are using different technology then it will stop the ripping engines from copying the image to your hard drive in the first place, or not allow you to copy it to a disc. This never happened in my case. Thank you.

vanejorg, I had the problem once when my PS3 can not read my BD-R backup while my burner in PC can (of course because PowerDVD/Nero Showtime can access m2ts directly). Two things came up in my mind, ie the blu-ray structure and missing protection. Some player if they don't see the AACS protection they will refuse to play. Let me check my backup and come back to you as soon as I able.

Why not try playing your back-up in your stand alone Panasonic? Either the BD-R plays in every stand alone or it doesn't. Otherwise, something is missing in the transfer, which makes the transfer technique discussed above flawed. I don't believe anyone is looking to back up their purchased Blu Ray disc for the purpose of playing it on their computer. People who purchase Blu Ray discs have Blu Ray players. Even if they don't(which doesn't make sense to me....watching movies on your computer...yuk)they back them up to protect the expensive original copy, and play the cheaper back up. If you cannot play back copied movies on your stand alone it defeats the purpose of this post entirely....at least I think so. Thank you.

The Panasonic in my sig is not a standalone, it's a burner.

Before I got the PS3, I played blu-ray and hd dvd movies from my PC acting as HTPC (home theater pc) on the plasma. I ran a 35feet DVI to HDMI cable from the HTPC to the plasma in the other room. For the sound I feed it with optical cable to the AV Receiver and 8.1 Polk Audio. I've seen lots of people use HTPC, one good reason is that you can store your movies in your terrabyte harddrives and playback easily.

Nonetheless, I am looking for a method where I can "rip" the original BD to the hard drive and then copy it to a blank BD-R, for play in a stand alone player. Does anyone know what programs will do that? Thank you.

Burn?!?

vanejorg, I finally found the problem. The backup that didn't work was burned with ImgBurn. I tried with Nero Burning ROM v8 (set to UDF2.50) and it works on my PS3. I haven't tried newer ImgBurn since. Please give Nero 8 a try and let us know. I hope you have a spare BD-RE for testing.

I will update the first post.

Good idea, zevia.

UDF 2.50 really seems to be necessary here.

Yes burning UDF2.50 is the key to successful playback on standalone players (and PS3).

Just wanted to let you guys know that the new upcoming release of ImgBurn 2.4.0.0 will support UDF 2.50.

In regards to standalone compatibility, are DL 50GB discs now supported?

That is can we rip a blu-ray DL movie with its layer change and then burn to a BD-R DL and have it play in a standalone without layer change issues?

I thought this was still the last issue to be solved or is it a non-issue now.

Which drives should accept that media/content so???

I don't understand your comment.

Is that a yes dual layer backups are no problem for standalones?

I doubt it, recordabel/RW media is always unlike pressed media.

Playback of non encrypted BDMV discs is outside the Blu-ray specs, yet some firmwares on standalones allow this. The Panasonic always has.

From what I understand is that one needs to create a Blu-ray data disc for UDF 2.5 and it should play in some standalone players.

However, what is really needed is software that can burn a Blu-Ray movie and not data disc. I thought Ulead 6 supports this, but maybe I am wrong and it only supports BDAV authoring. What about Adobe's Encore CS3?

Has anyone here burned a Blu-Ray ripped movie as a Blu-Ray movie on BD-R?

I did, using Nero 8/ImgBurn and it works on PS3.

zevia, Was that a 25GB or a dual layer 50GB? Just curious if 50GB with layer changes work in standalones.

Also, just to clarify, this was burned in Nero8 as a BD movie and not a BD data disc - correct?

Its odd that Slysoft forums strictly state that playing blu-ray backups on standalones is not possible. I wonder what they are talking about?

It's 25GB BD-R and BD-RE discs. I haven't try BDMV on BD-R DL yet.

In Nero Burning ROM 8, if you have Blu-ray and HD DVD plug-ins, there are only two selections: Blu-ray Disc Copy and Blu-ray Disc (UDF). Don't mixed with DVD file structure were you can burn data to DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-Audio ect. In Blu-ray, the file system and structure is simpler, ie if you want to burn a movie, use file system UDF 2.50 or 2.60 with the correct BDMV folder and subfolders.

I hope it helps.