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AnyDVD HD and Nero 8

I'm trying to backup one of my movies using these 2 programs.. is it possible to just do the "Copy BD" option since AnyDVD HD has removed the AACS folder? Will this method produce a disc that will play in a stand-alone (specifically PS3).
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Should I rip the disk first using AnyDVD HD and then use the other option in Nero to build a new compilation with the UDF 2.50 option and drag the BDMV and Certificates folders over and burn that way?

I'm just trying to make a good disc that will play in my PS3 and trying to avoid making any coasters since these discs are so expensive.
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Re: AnyDVD HD and Nero 8

I have backed up Blu-ray discs using the two methods you mentioned, and the disc played without issues in the PS3. The only issue obviously is with BD+ discs. fficeffice" />>>
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I have backed up Blu-ray discs using the two methods you mentioned, and the disc played without issues in the PS3. The only issue obviously is with BD+ discs. fficeffice" />>>
so both methods work equally well... Is the first method easier to do?
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2nd method is easiest in my opinion
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2nd method is easiest in my opinion
OK I need some help.. I ripped the movie using AnyDVD HD and I tried to burn it to a BD-R in Nero. It started then after a few seconds it says it can't start disc-at-once and spits the disc out. Here is the error log:

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Windows XP 6.0
IA32
WinAspi: -
NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 8.2.8.0
Internal Version: 8, 2, 8, 0
Recorder:               Version: Q310 - HA 1 TA 0 - 8.2.8.0
 Adapter driver:                           HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      8192kB
 Bus Type      :      via Inquiry data
 Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
 Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM:               Version: Q310 - HA 1 TA 0 - 8.2.8.0
 Adapter driver:                           HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : FUJITSU MHY2160BH               iaStor Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On 
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-225S     E:   CdRom0
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 2047MB (2097151kB)
Free physical memory: 1888MB (1933556kB)
Memory in use       : 38 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 
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UDF compilation
6:13:24 AM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450
 LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL
 
6:13:24 AM #2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6655
 UDF document burn settings
 ------------------------------------------
 Determine maximum speed : FALSE
 Simulate                : FALSE
 Write                   : TRUE
 Finalize CD             : FALSE
 Multisession            : FALSE
 Burning mode            : DAO
 Mode                    : 1
 UDF Mode                : pure
 UDF Options             : manual
 UDF Revision            : 2.50
 UDF Partition Type      : physical
 
6:13:24 AM #3 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:25 AM #4 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:25 AM #5 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:25 AM #6 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x52 01 00 00 00 FF 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:25 AM #7 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:25 AM #8 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x52 01 00 00 00 FF 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:25 AM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3502
 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using Blu-ray Disc media
 
6:13:26 AM #10 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:26 AM #11 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:26 AM #12 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x52 01 00 00 00 FF 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:26 AM #13 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:13:26 AM #14 SPTI -1080 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1080)
 CDB Data:   0x52 01 00 00 00 FF 00 00 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
 Sense Code: 0x3A
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 
 Buffer x04e3fa80: Len x20
 
6:14:25 AM #15 Text 0 File FilesystemSettingsValidator.cpp, Line 142
 FS Settings: using validator 'CUDFSettingsValidatorBD'
 ParamMode = 'manual', changing UDF partition type from 'physical' to 'physical'
 Changing UDF revision from '2.50' to '2.50'
 
6:14:25 AM #16 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1884
 You are burning a disc in UDF version 2.5 or higher.
 Therefore, the disc may not be accessible in every operating system.
 
6:14:39 AM #17 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 307
 Last possible write address on media: 12180255 (2706:43.30, 23789MB)
 Last address to be written:           12180255 (2706:43.30, 23789MB)
 
6:14:39 AM #18 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 319
 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
 
6:14:39 AM #19 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2957
 Recorder: MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-225S, Media type: BD-R (seq)
 
6:14:39 AM #20 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 493
 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
 =========================================
 Insert empty disc to write to.
  (Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: BD-R/RE, BD DL.)
 
6:14:39 AM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 762
 Setup items (after recorder preparation)
  0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
     2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
     original disc pos #0 + 12180256 (12180256) = #12180256/2706:43.31
     relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required
     -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 12180256 blocks [E: MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-225S]
 --------------------------------------------------------------
 
6:14:39 AM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 964
 Prepare [E: MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-225S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
 DAO infos:
 ==========
  MCN: ""
  TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
  Tracks 1 to 1:                                  Idx 0         Idx 1      Next Trk
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0   24945164288, ISRC ""
 DAO layout:
 ===========
  ___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
         0 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
         0 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
         0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 | 12180256 |        0 | 0x00
  12180256 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
 
6:14:40 AM #23 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 240
 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
 
6:14:40 AM #24 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4288
 Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)
 
6:14:40 AM #25 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
 Caching of files started
 
6:14:40 AM #26 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4407
 Cache writing successful.
 
6:14:40 AM #27 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
 Caching of files completed
 
6:14:40 AM #28 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
 Burn process started at 1x (4,495 KB/s)
 
6:14:40 AM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2681
 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
 
6:14:40 AM #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10140
 ---- Disc Structure (BD): Disc Information on BD (00h) ----
 Media Type: 1, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 4098
  --- Header ---
   Disc Information Identifier: 
   Disc Information Format: 01 h
   Number of DI Units/Aux Frames in each DI block: 2
   Number of (recording) layer to which this DI Unit applies: 0
   DI unit Sequence Number in DI Block: 0
   Continuation flag: Next DI Unit is the start of a new set of parameters (0)
   Number of DI bytes in use in this DI unit: 98
  --- Body ---
   Disc Type Identifier: 
   Disc Size/Class/Version: 1
   DI Unit Format dependent contents:
    BD Structure: 18 (12 h):
     1 recording layer (SL), BD-R
    Hybrid Disc identifier/Channel bit length: 1 (1 h):
     no DVD layer present, no CD layer present
     channel bit length of 74,5 nm (25.0 GB max. per layer)
    Push-Pull polarity flag bits: 00 h
    Recorded mark polarity flag bits: 00 h
    BCA descriptor: BCA-code present (1)
    Maximum transfer rate needed by the application: 0 Mbit/s
    Data zone allocation:
     First Physical ADIP Address of the Data Zone of the related layer (FAA): 00020000 h (131072)
     Last Physical ADIP Address of the Data Zone of the related layer (LAA):  00194E7E h (1658494)
    Recording velocities:
     Nominal Recording Velocity: 4.92 m/s (1EC h)
     Maximum Recording Velocity: 4.92 m/s (64 h -> 100/100)=1
     Minimum Recording Velocity: 4.92 m/s (64 h -> 100/100)=1
    ...
    12 01 00 00 01 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00
    00 19 4E 7E 01 EC 64 64 - 28 28 28 28 1E 1E 1E 1E
    00 00 00 00 5B 63 69 06 - 04 44 1A AD A0 30 30 30
    30 40 40 40 40 38 38 38 - 38 90 00 90 00 90 00 90
    00 90 00 90 00 90 00 90 - 00 A0 00 A0 00 A0 00 A0
    00 E0 E0 A8 B0 BC 00 00
  --- Trailer ---
   Disc Manufacturer ID: 53 4F 4E 59 00 00 h 
   Media Type ID: 4E 53 31 
   Time Stamp [m:y]: 0 : 0000 (00 00 h)
   Product Revision Number: 1
 
6:14:40 AM #31 SPTI -1067 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1067)
 CDB Data:   0x04 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
 Sense Code: 0x26
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 26 
 Buffer x08cb6100: Len xc
 0x00 82 00 08 00 B9 DB 20 C9 00 00 00 
 
6:14:58 AM #32 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 197
 CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
 CDB Data:   0x53 00 00 00 00 00 B9 DB 20 00 00 00 
 Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
 Sense Code: 0x24
 Sense Qual: 0x00
 Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 50 00 00 24 
 
6:14:58 AM #33 Text 0 File BD.cpp, Line 520
 Format BD-R with Format Type 32h, sub-type 1, spare area size 39136 -> return code -1067
 Formatting failed, try again with Format Type 0h, sub-type 0, spare area size 39136 -> return code 0
 Allocated spare area size on disc 196608
 Reserved Track size: 12180256 sect (B9DB20h, 23789MB) -> return code -1066
 BD: Start write address at LBA 0, Recording mode: unknown Recording Mode (0),
     spare area allocation: allocation (1), Stream recording: NO (0); return code -1066
 
6:14:58 AM #34 CDR -1066 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1688
 Invalid field in command
 E: MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-225S
 
6:14:58 AM #35 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1688
 Could not perform start of Disc-at-once
 
6:14:58 AM #36 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 269
 Pipe memory size 83836800
 
6:14:58 AM #37 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
 Burn process failed at 1x (4,495 KB/s)
 
6:14:59 AM #38 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 287
 SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
 
6:15:03 AM #39 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11391
 DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed
 
6:15:03 AM #40 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 450
 UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL
 
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Re: AnyDVD HD and Nero 8

I backup with anydvdHD and then burn with Imgburn. I am using a beta of ImgBurn for testing. Next backup I will give Nero a go and post results here.
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In the meantime take a look at post # 6 in this thread:

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In the meantime take a look at post # 6 in this thread:

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That is exactly the method I used. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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How big is the files you're trying to burn (exact bytes)? I think it won't fit the BD-R.
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How big is the files you're trying to burn (exact bytes)? I think it won't fit the BD-R.
I think you're right actually. I looked at the original disc and it's a dual-layer. I'm gonna try and use that TsRemux program and see if I can reduce the size some. I've been reading up on it and I can already tell it's going to be overwhelming for me. Any pointers on how to use the program? I'm guessing the only audio I would wanna keep is English PCM (not sure if that's the right way of saying it.. I'm not all that advanced when it comes to this stuff). I just know that PCM is what my TV displays when I do "Info". It's a 65" 1080p Toshiba (65HM167). I'd also like to keep my English subtitles if that's one of the options that TsRemux would control.

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This looks like a connection problem to me.
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This looks like a connection problem to me.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say a connection problem.
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I'm gonna try and use that TsRemux program and see if I can reduce the size some. I've been reading up on it and I can already tell it's going to be overwhelming for me. Any pointers on how to use the program?
Try this one: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/bd2dvd...-guide-232165/
You can skip the splitting process (step #2) if you want to fit all into BD media.

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I'm guessing the only audio I would wanna keep is English PCM (not sure if that's the right way of saying it.. I'm not all that advanced when it comes to this stuff). I just know that PCM is what my TV displays when I do "Info". It's a 65" 1080p Toshiba (65HM167). I'd also like to keep my English subtitles if that's one of the options that TsRemux would control.
Do you have AV Receiver? Or do you connect your standalone directly to TV?

Unfortunately TsRemux does not support substitle yet (working progress), same as TsMuxer, but eventually they will so hang on to the original disc.
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Try this one: http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/bd2dvd...-guide-232165/
You can skip the splitting process (step #2) if you want to fit all into BD media.

Do you have AV Receiver? Or do you connect your standalone directly to TV?

Unfortunately TsRemux does not support substitle yet (working progress), same as TsMuxer, but eventually they will so hang on to the original disc.
Direct connection.. PS3 to TV via HDMI. No problem on the subtitles. I don't normally use subtitles but I figured it would be good to keep them if possible. No biggie if not.
Also, in TsRemux would I need to perform that procedure only on the main movie (ie the largest file in the stream directory) or do I need to go through each of those individual files in the "Stream" folder?

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Main movie only. Thus you won't get any original menus.
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Main movie only. Thus you won't get any original menus.
Are you saying my resulting disc won't have the original menus? No biggie really. I'll always have the originals if I need the menus. I really just want a backup of the movie.
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Main movie only. Thus you won't get any original menus.
Great success! Used TsRemux and got the file size down to around 13 GB. Brand new working backup of Saw 4 and it plays on my PS3 flawlessly! Thanks very much for your help (as well as everyone else who contributed to this thread).
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