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| CD Freaks Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North America
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| New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? Why is this happening? :-( In the BIOS, it doesn't even show its capacity in MB; just '300 GB'. The cylinders, head, etc shows a number at or just below '65535' (indicating to me like some maximum has been reached). My BIOS is Phoenix and my motherboard has an AMD Sempron in it. Something I use called BootIT NG recorgnised this has its right capacity, but couldn't format the drive in NTFS format. This is why I'm thinking that it must be Windows stupid OS showing such a limitation. BTW, I had this drive hooked up & running in an external enclosure and it showed the full capacoty in Windows. So I guess I have another problem restricted to internal (only IDE?) drives. If anyone can help me out here, thanks very much. I don't want to format it in Windows or store anything on it until this problem gets fixed. as I don't want to lost any data... |
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? are you running atleast SP1?
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? This is an IDE drive? It's not Windows. It's your IDE controller. ![]() Get the latest firmware for your motherboard, see if that helps. If not, you need to either trade the drive for SATA, or get an off-board controller from someone that doesn't limit hard disk sizes. |
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? The mobo and the controller connected to your drive must support LBA on that, also your OS accessing the disk. BIOS updates might be helpful, but also risky.
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? windows xp without service pack 1 or 2 have a 128gb limit , do you have service pack 1 or 2 ? get it , anyway keep in mind connecting it regulary is much faster then firewire |
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? My 200gb maxtor had this problem and the only way to fix it was to allow Maxtors Maxblast 4 Software set up the drive. Does Seagate have a similar type of software? Last edited by davrio4; 22-09-2005 at 00:59. |
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? your talking on dynamic disk overlay , seagate does have a similar software but its unnecessary in this case, as alredy said bios identifies it fine its a windows service pack issue |
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? maybe i was wrong just notice it worked fine in external enclosure , update bios , what chipset your mobo is based on? if you dont know the mobo model will be good enough need it to tell if the mobo supports 48bit lba , anyway you can use discwizard to create a ddo http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/...s/discwiz.html |
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? There's nothing wrong with using FireWire full time. It's a good way to have an external drive. The issue is almost certainly the BIOS and whether or not it supports 48-bit LBA. It's a very simple issue, this sort of thing happens ALL the time. Space in a BIOS is limited, so they look around and say "well the biggest drive currently available is 120GB" and only use enough bits to allow 128GB drives. This has ALWAYS been an issue. It happened at 64MB, 512MB, etc. etc. And it'll happen again, because manufacturers are ALWAYS short-sighted. The good news is, it's almost always fixable with a firmware flash, UNLESS the firmware is just SO chock-full that they don't have any more room, or unless they've abandoned development on that motherboard's firmware. BIOS flashing is pretty straightforward nowadays, but not something to be undertaken lightly. What model is your motherboard? |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Michigan USA
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? If you're using SP2, it has to be a BIOS limitation. Also, the drive can be recognised as 300gb in windows in an external enclosure, so it HAS to be a bios issue. I know the hardware will support 48bit LBA, I was even able to get a bios update for my buddy's GA-7VX mobo to support a 200gb seagate drive. It might be listed in the bios as BIG LBA, or 48 BIT LBA, either way, it should be enabled, or on. If the option isn't listed, it might be that you need a bios update. You need to know the EXACT make/model of your mobo for that. If you screw up, and flash it with a wrong bios, you're SCREWED. So, if you need to update it, get it RIGHT. One thing to try before you update the mobo's bios is to update your IDE drivers. Usually, if the IDE drivers don't support 48 bit LBA, it recognises the drive, you just get corruption if you exceed 128gb. The IDE drivers might be part of the chipset drivers, so you might have to install the whole package, which might in turn hose your video drivers . The mobo is new enough to support a sempron chip, which means it should definetly support a 300gb hard drive. ![]()
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? Not recommended to use the whole available space as only 1 partition and install the OS there... Create a small one (8bg) and make it primary to allow windoooze to install the Os on it...
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? Oh man, makes me really laugh at m$. They $$$$$$$uck. :-X
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? get another computer and format the drive.. (In this case use the FW to format the drive) So that it will be 300gb. Hmm i dun think its a bios limitation..I'm on nF4 & I have a 250gb hardisk.. before i installed my SATA driver. it showed only a maxinium of 128GB. (If i format it to 250gb, the size will show 128GB at the top left hand corner of the box, but the drive will show 250gb parition). After installing the SATA driver, the top left hand corner of the box become 250gb. Its all windows problem. The only bios limitation that i've ever encountered is the 32GB with my 40GB but still i got it working |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? This is not a bios limitation, not for him anyway. He already said his bios sees it as a 300GB. As already said, this is a pre-sp1 Windows issue. The reason it works through your external box, is because the chipset on the box becomes the addresser, and gets by the Windows limitation. I've had this same problem. Trying to load XP while hooked onto the mobo IDE channel, I could only get XP to see 128GB because of this limitation. However, when I install through a controller card or RAID controller (any somewhat modern one should work), Windows will see the entire drive, and this is NOT with sp1 yet either. This is because like I said, the controller handles it, and Windows is out of the loop, so to speak, as far as addressing the HDD and it's size. If you have an onboard RAID controller, and two HDD's, and you load Windows through the RAID controller, it will work, trust me. Recently, I loaded Windows (again, no sp1 or anything) onto two 160GB drives in a RAID0, connected to my mobo RAID. It sees the whole 300GB right from the start no issues. Again it will also work using a controller card (RAID or not), I've done that too. There is a way to get back the rest of the drive after you load Windows onto the 128GB too. After you've loaded it, and installed sp1 or sp2, there's a way to repartition or something and get back the rest of your drive, but I've never done it. Or, after you load sp1 or whatever, you can just make a second partition for the rest of your drive. Or, load it through a controller and tell Windows to take a hike on handling the HDD. ![]() |
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| CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Michigan USA
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| Re: New Seagate 300-GB HDD showing up as only 128 GB in Windows XP Pro? He said he has SP2, so it might not be a windows limitation. You need 3 things to make a big hard drive work, a bios that supports it (check), windows with sp1 or 2 or 48bit LBA hack for registry (he says SP2, but I'm starting to doubt it), and DRIVERS that support it!!! DRIVERS may be the problem, maybe the ones built into SP2 don't support BigLBA (which I wouldn't put it past M$)! So, IF you have SP2, try updating the drivers for the controller where the drive is. Also, I'D LIKE TO SEE A SCREENIE of your system properties saying SP2! That way there IS NO DOUBT about this issue. Definetly if it's an nforce 4 mobo, it's not a bios issue. It might be an issue with M$ drivers for the controller, and it might be a MIA service pack. So, please post back on those two things. ![]()
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