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| CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006
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| Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R Currently I am using DVD+R discs to save my media library. I've been hearing from other people that hard disks are cheaper or not much more expensive compared to DVD media. Even if they in fact may cost quite a bit more including an enclosure, they would take up much less physical space and make it easier to read back the information. What worries me is, how reliable hard drives are in long term? Is it true that after one or two idle years, an attempt to start the HDD would result in much damage? |
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R If left unplugged and turned off, an external HD is as secure as anything. If your data is critical, it never makes sense to have only one copy, regardless of the media. |
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R I don't think HDDs are cheaper. If you compare a 400 Gig HDD for 110 USD, thats 0,272$/GB and a 100 pack Verbatim spindle for 30 USD is 0,06$/GB. Plus you deprive yourself of that wonderful feeling from burning, scanning, etc ![]()
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R best solution: keep both! you never know if/when a disc might degrade or a hard drive will fry itself. if the data is important enough for you to be asking this question then it's important enough for a redundant backup
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R Quote:
HDD for long term storage is questionable, unless you are willing to have multiple drives & regular re-transfers IMO, some other users have highlighted some possible issues with HDD for longterm archival: Quote:
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R Quote:
I have found that hard-drives don't like to be left unused for long periods of time. The usual symptoms are a failure to spin up when power is applied. I don't know whether this is caused by the heads sticking to the platters or if it is a problem with the bearings. The cure is to give the drive a gentle (or not so gentle) shake when it is powered up. I have seen this problem with drives that have been left in storage for 1-2 years. I think an external hard-drive or a drive caddy would be more reliable because you could power it up regularly. I would favour the belt & braces approach and use both optical and hard-drives to back up your critical data. Don't put all your eggs on one basket. Use several different brands of DVD media and store it under ideal conditions. Don't keep all your backups in the same location in case they are stolen or destroyed by fire. | |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterville Maine
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R Quote:
It depends on the drive and if oem or retail, as an example wd Sada have a 3 or 5 year, But it you lose you stuff then the Warranty will not replace the data. Use both. Bruce | |
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R Get a NAS box that supports RAID 5- you can power it on every once in a while and detect a parity failure before the entire matrix goes down.
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| Re: Hard Drive as replacement for DVD+R J7n: no one can tell you what would be reliable enough. you could keep a perfect hard drive in a dry dark temperature controlled closet and power it up once a month and your house could catch on fire and destroy it. conversely, you could burn a set of dvds and toss them in a corner, dust them off 5 years later and wipe all the dust and crud off and they could still read...then you'd feel like the 2nd hard drive backup was a poor investment. i think 2 copies of something is a reasonable backup. could something happen to 2 copies of the same data at the same time? sure...your house could catch on fire with your hard drive in it and your 1 year old could decide to teeth on your dvds on the same day...is it likely? no. for my own personal use i think a hard drive and a dvd backup is secure enough. if I ever encounter an occasion where I lose both at the same time...well then that really sucks. but losing data under this circumstance is less likely than only having one copy.
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