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| CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mackay
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| which is the best hdd.... I’m looking to get a new hdd for storing high quality audio and audio programs (I’m an audio programmer) I’m looking a at a 60/80gig Westerndigital, Seagate or Maxtor which is the best? I’m leaning towards westerndigital is that the right thing to do? THANKS
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... I've had nearly every brand of HD fail on me. There doesn't seem to be one that is more dependable than the others. I just had a Seagate 160 fail after 6 months, and the replacement I bought was dead on arrival! In very general terms, the 2 platter drives seem to have more reliability and noise issues. If you want speed, the WD Raptors are the only non-SCSI drive that delivers true speed, and they are built to last a really long time. Even so, I had a Raptor fail on me due to bad sectors. But the mechanics of the Raptor are seriously heavy duty. Barring platter problems like mine, they will outlast their usefullness. As far as performance on standard 7200RPM ATA100/133 drives, you won't notice any difference between them. 8MB cache is a "must-have". with any HD, the secret to reliability is adequate cooling. |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nordic Region, Sweden
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... Yes, you need cooling that's for sure. Regarding performance among 7200 rpm drives I don't really agree with you rdgrimes. You'll notice quite a difference between a Seagate 7200.7 hdd and a Hitachi 7K250/Maxtor in favor for the Hitachi/Maxtor one. Keep on mind that 8Mb cache often means extended warranty (usually 3 years) compared to 1 year for 2Mb cache. //Danne |
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| CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Somewhere in space
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... For real true amazing speed go for the 74Gb Raptors (but you will pay the price for the speed!). Otherwise just buy a WD >80Gb with 8Mb cache. You can't go wrong with them.
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... Performance of PATA HDDs with similar RPM and cache size is pretty much equal among the major brands, as is reliability. I think one of the best ways to single out the best drive for you is to look at how long the manufacturer is willing to warranty it. Look for a 7200rpm drive with 8MB cache and a three-year warranty. Otherwise, grab a WD Raptor for some nice SATA speed (10,000rpm, 8MB cache, 5-year warranty). If you have the $$$, nothing beats a SCSI, though.
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About the warranty: it doesn't only depend on what type of disc you buy, but also where you live (due to legal regulations).
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... Thanks guys I really appreciate it. I’m not to keen with the faster/bigger drives because I haven’t got the $$$ and I don’t tend to do mass file transferring. Just saving audio files and installing about 15 programs. I want quality and reliability. THANKS
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... As most of the fellow cdfreaks said , all those brands have a similar quality and all of them need proper cooling. I would suggest a WD at least 80GB with 8MB cache with a proper cooling. If you can't afford extra money for cooling fans just do what i did with my WD 80JB ... leave the case open.
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... With audio programming you will probably need lots of testing and it may lead to more wear & tear on the HDD. I suggest WD because of their amazing customer care and support. Like already said, everyone at one point or another comes across a popular well known HDD that failed. So get the best thing to back it up, I have never had a problem getting a replacement for a WD. And I tried many diff HDD brands. Hope that helps!!!
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... I wouldn't go and buy a 80Gb drive today, you can get a 120-160Gb drive for ~20-25 bucks more. Regarding performance among 7200 rpm drives, have a look over at xbitlabs.com. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/sto...22hdd-120.html //Danne |
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... Cooling no problem I made an 80x80x130mm fan @40watts and I guess it blows about over 400cf/m. it cooled a severely overclocked AMD 3200 down to 37 degrees ![]() When I placed it on a skateboard it propelled it . (Making a bigger one at this moment) I’ll go with a wd 80gb 8mb cache i'll take a chance THANKS to ALL
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... Thats a heck of a fan, any pics, or details on it? ![]() Quote:
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... I have sold the fan to my friend, I can get some photos and the details, i'll post it here so check back in about who knows a week I guess to see it. I’ll get the wd for now and get a Maxtor for my new machine in a year or so. THANKS
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... I like both my Western Digital 160 GB Caviar with 8 mb of cache, and my Western Digital 120 GB USB 2.0 external. They both are quiet and 7200 drives. I also do not own, but repeatedly hear good things about the Samsung drives. I have reviewed both drives on Epinions: http://www.epinions.com/content_131774320260
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... ... whatever I'm using right now. And that'd be a pair of Maxtor Plus9 160GB/8MB , pair of WDSE 120GB/8MB, WDSE 40GB/8MB, IBM 120GXP 120GB/2MB, and WD Raptor 74GB. Also used a pair of Maxtor D740X 20GB/2MB and a pair of the infamouse IBM 75GXP 30GB/2MB. All the pairs ran/run as RAID 0 on Promise FastTrack100 TX in dual channel mode as masters. Never had a problem w/ them, except one of the IBM 75GXP was DOA, and the other I had to RMA when it died a pair later. Serious knock on wood. |
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... Seeing as how none of them really answered your question perhaps I can be of some assistance. Honestly your not going to see much of a difference in any of them. I've had all of them at one point and only one died that wasn't my fault, and it was because of bad sectors. I would, however, make sure that what you are buying in new and not used/refurbished, I've had very bad experiences with ones like that. I'd just go for whatever you can find the cheapest. I'd look at www.pricewatch.com for the lowest prices, unless you find a sale. ![]() |
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... Most Seagate drives are very quiet, which is important to me at least. They are generally pretty reliable, despite rdgrimes's experience. That said right now I have two WD 120's and haven't had any problems.
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... I’ll post the pictures and details in a new thread called “400cfm huge fan” some thing like that, when my friend gives me my fan back…well his fan now
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... I am also between HDD's. But I'm after a little bigger than has been discussed, I want 200GB. And since that require an additional platter or higher density, maybe it has an effect on the disk performance or reliability? Anyways I'm choosing between Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 or a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9. Both are 200GB IDE 8MB (I dont have any SATA-ports on this computer), what sets them apart is that the Seagate has 3 years warranty while the Maxtor only 1 year. They cost almost the same. I like things quiet btw, my current 2x IBM Deathstars (as I said many times before, hit them and they'll get scared of you and keep running ) are quite noisy in idle-mode. I never hear them work actually, I only hear a constant hiss. They ruin my in other aspects quiet system.I am not too keen on a WD, they cost a bit more... Unless they are very superior ...
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... For me, Western Digitals have always been good. I build PC's for friends and family sometimes, and I think all but 1 still work fine, not even bad sectors. The one that failed actually still works, just has some bad sectors. I've probably bought at least 15 or more throughout the years. I even have a couple old 1 and 2G WD's that still work fine. IBM's are another story, I've had probably 5 of them go bad on me, out of maybe 15, crunchety crunch! Mostly from the infamous Deathstar family.Seagates I've only had a couple, one of them an IDE and one a 10k SCSI. Both working fine after 2+ years. Maxtor I've bought only like 3 times, 2 still working, 1 toast. |
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| Letiled Modelatol Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: La Suède
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| Re: which is the best hdd.... I got my Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 200GB (now say that three times fast!) up and running yesterday, and I like it alot. It is faster than anything I've used before, its dead silent and according to HDDTemp it's sits at 36C. I've thrown out the Deathstars (not throwed away of course), no more high-pitched whine for me!
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