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ccbadd · 20-11-2006

Is anyone running F@H under XP x64? I have one machine running XP x64 and F@H just kills it! I have looked at the priorities and they appear fine, but the running core will always keep the cpu usage > 90% and everything take forever. All my other machines are runing 32 XP or linux and they have no problems. By the way, it is great to see us getting close to the top 10%!!!

debro · 20-11-2006

Y's not doing too bad with 2x 600pt WU's

Chriso · 20-11-2006

Hmm, I can't find any more computers to run it on and I'm not crazy enough to attempt installation on 500 school computers.

debro · 20-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chriso

Hmm, I can't find any more computers to run it on and I'm not crazy enough to attempt installation on 500 school computers.

Why not ...
Just grab the Console client .... stick it on a usb drive.

First thing you do when you sit at one, is copy the FAH client to c:/programs/Folding@home folder & run it.
Configure it as a service and to not ask before connecting to the internet, and no-one will ever know it's there .....

Next time it restarts, it's completely invisible

Eventually, you end up with 500 PC's running for 7-10hrs a day

That's alot of CPU time

ccbadd · 21-11-2006

That's the spirit Debro!

Chriso · 21-11-2006

Hmm, only thing is, we have no C: drive access (very annoying). Could it be run from a pendrive just as I'm logged on?

**jwill427** · 21-11-2006

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Originally Posted by Chriso

Hmm, only thing is, we have no C: drive access (very annoying). Could it be run from a pendrive just as I'm logged on?

wow, and I thought my school was bad! we have full access to C: but they have some insane logoff scripts that delete EVERY file you saved/installed etc. and revert all settings to defaults. a friend of mine did find a work around though, they dont empty the recycle bins...so if there is a file you want to keep, you have to delete it

a pen drive should work with the text console, but I'm not positive

**Arachne** · 21-11-2006

Hehe see you guys in December. I'm just snagged a mother of a WU. And I wasn't kidding when I said December.

Edit: Alright, that's better

- this Thursday or Friday.

I hate it when it just starts a WU and reports insane completion times

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Originally Posted by jwill427

...but they have some insane logoff scripts that delete EVERY file you saved/installed etc. and revert all settings to defaults.

Wish I could get hold of something like that, to stop my mum's boyfriend installing crap on her PC.

Chriso · 21-11-2006

Even if I could get C: drive access I wouldn't have the permissions to install something as a service...seems a shame, all those wasted CPU cycles.

jhtalisman · 21-11-2006

Hah! I'm right on Debro's tail for the #2 spot. It's almost time to unleash my secret weapon.

I'd ask my work if I could run F@H on some of there PC's but most of them are already overburdened running Windows 2000 and various work-related programs with only a 1/4 gb of memory. It would probably take 1 week to get a WU finished.

AT Arachne: Yeah, mine usually reports sometime in 2009 when it starts up. Solution: Run the console version. Besides, it seems to put out about a WU per core per day on my machine.

**Arachne** · 21-11-2006

I'll look into that, cheers

Hmmm, I just had a thought. I'll be at my mum's on Friday, doing various things on her PC. I'm sure she won't notice, with all the other crap on there, if I sneakily install F@H *evil grin*

ccbadd · 21-11-2006

You know, I switched most of my PCs from the gui client to the console version and I have noticed a big difference in speed. I have one more to switch then they will all be console versions.

Chriso · 21-11-2006

But...if the GUI is not showing then surely they are the same. I thought the only extra strain from the Graphical client was rendering the images.

Pernundel · 22-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwill427

wow, and I thought my school was bad! we have full access to C: but they have some insane logoff scripts that delete EVERY file you saved/installed etc. and revert all settings to defaults. a friend of mine did find a work around though, they dont empty the recycle bins...so if there is a file you want to keep, you have to delete it

a pen drive should work with the text console, but I'm not positive

If you don't have permission from the administrator of the computer you are running F@H on, you can be banned and face legal action. This has happened in the past and Stanford will not tolerate this (they faced legal action and could have been forced to shut down the F@H project). So get permission first.

debro · 23-11-2006

Well that's no fun

Chriso · 23-11-2006

Hehe, I dunno if I would risk something this crazy (I mean...installing something to hundreds of computers!!!). On the other hand, I've (well, a few of us actually) have Doom and Quake set up for networked co-op/deathmatch games which is absolutely great fun. We also got Torpark running for reasons of I hate restricted internet access.

jhtalisman · 24-11-2006

Finally have my 2nd machine up and running F@H. First WU = 20,000,000 steps/frames. What a way to test a practically new rig. Force flashed the BIOS so I could overclock it and it's running at 2.47ghz instead of the stock 2.2ghz with cheap DDR400 memory. So far it's working well. I just think it's going to take awhile with that huge WU. Hopefully it's worth a few thousand points

.

BTW, we have cracked the top 10% now.

Chriso · 25-11-2006

Well, I got the 50,000 one done, and I've got about 100 of the 500 one I snagged left to go. Wish I had the bottle to get those school computers doing some work...

ccbadd · 27-11-2006

Believe it or not, but only two of my machines are not at my house. Also, two of them are dual core, so I am only using 7 PC's.

debro · 27-11-2006

I'd hate to see your power bill

**jwill427** · 29-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwill427

my P4 just got a 600 pointer...muhahahahahaha

...and it just finished

we need to add a couple of these to our team

**Arachne** · 29-11-2006

I just picked up a 20,000 frame WU...should have guessed after the last two, which were fairly quick

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwill427

we need to add a couple of these to our team

Hell yeah

debro · 29-11-2006

Except for the Advanced Scientific Cores, the Large WU's & the GPU (Radoen X1900/X1950) clients, every WU has the same point/CPU time ratio.

The large WU, Scientific Cores & GPU dependant cores have much higher system requirements than the standard cores, so you get bonus points.
Generally, these will require a $hitload of RAM & HD thrashing, which wears out your HD alot faster

**jwill427** · 29-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by debro

Except for the Advanced Scientific Cores, the Large WU's & the GPU (Radoen X1900/X1950) clients, every WU has the same point/CPU time ratio.

thats what the stanford guys claim, but it doesn't work out that way for me. on my A64 system I have large WUs disabled (and I don't even have an X19xx) and it can knock out the 153 point 1808/1809 WUs in ~15hrs (approx 10 points per hour) but the 400 point 21xx WUs take ~65-72hrs (appox 5-6PPH)

I think it works out that way because they benchmark all the WUs with SSE disabled

debro · 29-11-2006

Damn!
I'm going with standard WU's then

It takes too long between increments for these large WU's to add points

20-11-2006	#101 (permalink)
ccbadd CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 302	Re: Folding@Home <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Is anyone running F@H under XP x64? I have one machine running XP x64 and F@H just kills it! I have looked at the priorities and they appear fine, but the running core will always keep the cpu usage > 90% and everything take forever. All my other machines are runing 32 XP or linux and they have no problems. By the way, it is great to see us getting close to the top 10%!!! __________________ Pioneer 111D @ Maddog 111L, Benq 1655, Benq 1640, Lite-On DH-20A3S

20-11-2006	#102 (permalink)
debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The c@ke mixer Posts: 9,509	Re: Folding@Home Y's not doing too bad with 2x 600pt WU's __________________ CDFreaks - Overwhelmed by Ignorance since 2005! We lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war! Click Here to sign up to the resistance movement! Viva La Resistance!

20-11-2006	#103 (permalink)
Chriso CD Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,051	Re: Folding@Home Hmm, I can't find any more computers to run it on and I'm not crazy enough to attempt installation on 500 school computers. __________________ Videos of me playing piano, would be nice to have feedback from you all! [23:49] <Chriso> !seen Boobies [23:49] <JuPiLeR> I found 430 matches to your query; please refine it to see any output. PSU: Enermax Liberty 400w - Modular Mobo: Jetway V266B CPU: AMD AthlonXP 2000+ RAM: 256MB Crucial PC2100 + 512MB Corsair Value Select PC2100 HDD: 120GB Maxtor ATA133 8MB Cache + 320GB Western Digital "RAID Edition" ATA100 8MB Cache Gfx Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 passive cooled Sound Card: SB Live 1024 DVD-ROM Drive: Asus E-616 CD-RW: LiteON 52246S DVD-RW: NEC ND2510A in external Firewire enclosure (Prolific chipset) USB2 Card: ALI chipset (got an NEC chipset one waiting to go in) Firewire Card: Not sure of chipset...but it seems to work D-Link Network Card My old Voodoo 3 2000 PCI has now retired, still in perfect working order though! Get Firefox! Join CDFreaks

21-11-2006	#105 (permalink)
ccbadd CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 302	Re: Folding@Home That's the spirit Debro! __________________ Pioneer 111D @ Maddog 111L, Benq 1655, Benq 1640, Lite-On DH-20A3S

21-11-2006	#106 (permalink)
Chriso CD Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,051	Re: Folding@Home Hmm, only thing is, we have no C: drive access (very annoying). Could it be run from a pendrive just as I'm logged on? __________________ Videos of me playing piano, would be nice to have feedback from you all! [23:49] <Chriso> !seen Boobies [23:49] <JuPiLeR> I found 430 matches to your query; please refine it to see any output. PSU: Enermax Liberty 400w - Modular Mobo: Jetway V266B CPU: AMD AthlonXP 2000+ RAM: 256MB Crucial PC2100 + 512MB Corsair Value Select PC2100 HDD: 120GB Maxtor ATA133 8MB Cache + 320GB Western Digital "RAID Edition" ATA100 8MB Cache Gfx Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 passive cooled Sound Card: SB Live 1024 DVD-ROM Drive: Asus E-616 CD-RW: LiteON 52246S DVD-RW: NEC ND2510A in external Firewire enclosure (Prolific chipset) USB2 Card: ALI chipset (got an NEC chipset one waiting to go in) Firewire Card: Not sure of chipset...but it seems to work D-Link Network Card My old Voodoo 3 2000 PCI has now retired, still in perfect working order though! Get Firefox! Join CDFreaks

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21-11-2006	#109 (permalink)
Chriso CD Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,051	Re: Folding@Home Even if I could get C: drive access I wouldn't have the permissions to install something as a service...seems a shame, all those wasted CPU cycles. __________________ Videos of me playing piano, would be nice to have feedback from you all! [23:49] <Chriso> !seen Boobies [23:49] <JuPiLeR> I found 430 matches to your query; please refine it to see any output. PSU: Enermax Liberty 400w - Modular Mobo: Jetway V266B CPU: AMD AthlonXP 2000+ RAM: 256MB Crucial PC2100 + 512MB Corsair Value Select PC2100 HDD: 120GB Maxtor ATA133 8MB Cache + 320GB Western Digital "RAID Edition" ATA100 8MB Cache Gfx Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 passive cooled Sound Card: SB Live 1024 DVD-ROM Drive: Asus E-616 CD-RW: LiteON 52246S DVD-RW: NEC ND2510A in external Firewire enclosure (Prolific chipset) USB2 Card: ALI chipset (got an NEC chipset one waiting to go in) Firewire Card: Not sure of chipset...but it seems to work D-Link Network Card My old Voodoo 3 2000 PCI has now retired, still in perfect working order though! Get Firefox! Join CDFreaks

21-11-2006	#110 (permalink)
jhtalisman CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In a happy euphoric state Posts: 1,861	Re: Folding@Home Hah! I'm right on Debro's tail for the #2 spot. It's almost time to unleash my secret weapon. I'd ask my work if I could run F@H on some of there PC's but most of them are already overburdened running Windows 2000 and various work-related programs with only a 1/4 gb of memory. It would probably take 1 week to get a WU finished. AT Arachne: Yeah, mine usually reports sometime in 2009 when it starts up. Solution: Run the console version. Besides, it seems to put out about a WU per core per day on my machine. __________________ My Current Phenomenal System There are plenty of people who pray for peace, but if prayer were enough it would have come to be. - Jewel Kilcher From Rounders: You can't lose what you don't put in the middle. But then again, you can't win very much either. How to check/enable DMA Click here to learn more about the CDFreak's Folding at Home team NOW! The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them-words shrink things that seemed limitless when in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a teller but for the want of an understanding ear. - Stephen King, intro to "The Body." "You're going to go through tough times. We all are. It's how you respond to them that counts. It's how you get back up. You're going to get knocked down. It's whether you stay down or whether you get back up and fight that counts." - Cancer survivor and Tennessee guard Chris Lofton.

21-11-2006	#111 (permalink)
Arachne Senior Moderator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Keeping my media stash safe. Posts: 22,456	Re: Folding@Home I'll look into that, cheers Hmmm, I just had a thought. I'll be at my mum's on Friday, doing various things on her PC. I'm sure she won't notice, with all the other crap on there, if I sneakily install F@H evil grin __________________ Current drives: Pioneer DVR-115D (1.06) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + Litey SHM-165P6S (MS0R) + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) x2 + Litey SHW-1635S (YV6P) x2 + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + Samsung SH-S162L (TS08) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join cdfreaks.com and be part of our friendly community! The CDFreaks Distributed Computing Teams need YOU! Join the Team(s) and help save some lives! Read more here

21-11-2006	#112 (permalink)
ccbadd CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 302	Re: Folding@Home You know, I switched most of my PCs from the gui client to the console version and I have noticed a big difference in speed. I have one more to switch then they will all be console versions. __________________ Pioneer 111D @ Maddog 111L, Benq 1655, Benq 1640, Lite-On DH-20A3S

21-11-2006	#113 (permalink)
Chriso CD Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,051	Re: Folding@Home But...if the GUI is not showing then surely they are the same. I thought the only extra strain from the Graphical client was rendering the images. __________________ Videos of me playing piano, would be nice to have feedback from you all! [23:49] <Chriso> !seen Boobies [23:49] <JuPiLeR> I found 430 matches to your query; please refine it to see any output. PSU: Enermax Liberty 400w - Modular Mobo: Jetway V266B CPU: AMD AthlonXP 2000+ RAM: 256MB Crucial PC2100 + 512MB Corsair Value Select PC2100 HDD: 120GB Maxtor ATA133 8MB Cache + 320GB Western Digital "RAID Edition" ATA100 8MB Cache Gfx Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 passive cooled Sound Card: SB Live 1024 DVD-ROM Drive: Asus E-616 CD-RW: LiteON 52246S DVD-RW: NEC ND2510A in external Firewire enclosure (Prolific chipset) USB2 Card: ALI chipset (got an NEC chipset one waiting to go in) Firewire Card: Not sure of chipset...but it seems to work D-Link Network Card My old Voodoo 3 2000 PCI has now retired, still in perfect working order though! Get Firefox! Join CDFreaks

23-11-2006	#115 (permalink)
debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The c@ke mixer Posts: 9,509	Re: Folding@Home Well that's no fun __________________ CDFreaks - Overwhelmed by Ignorance since 2005! We lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war! Click Here to sign up to the resistance movement! Viva La Resistance!

23-11-2006	#116 (permalink)
Chriso CD Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,051	Re: Folding@Home Hehe, I dunno if I would risk something this crazy (I mean...installing something to hundreds of computers!!!). On the other hand, I've (well, a few of us actually) have Doom and Quake set up for networked co-op/deathmatch games which is absolutely great fun. We also got Torpark running for reasons of I hate restricted internet access. __________________ Videos of me playing piano, would be nice to have feedback from you all! [23:49] <Chriso> !seen Boobies [23:49] <JuPiLeR> I found 430 matches to your query; please refine it to see any output. PSU: Enermax Liberty 400w - Modular Mobo: Jetway V266B CPU: AMD AthlonXP 2000+ RAM: 256MB Crucial PC2100 + 512MB Corsair Value Select PC2100 HDD: 120GB Maxtor ATA133 8MB Cache + 320GB Western Digital "RAID Edition" ATA100 8MB Cache Gfx Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 passive cooled Sound Card: SB Live 1024 DVD-ROM Drive: Asus E-616 CD-RW: LiteON 52246S DVD-RW: NEC ND2510A in external Firewire enclosure (Prolific chipset) USB2 Card: ALI chipset (got an NEC chipset one waiting to go in) Firewire Card: Not sure of chipset...but it seems to work D-Link Network Card My old Voodoo 3 2000 PCI has now retired, still in perfect working order though! Get Firefox! Join CDFreaks

24-11-2006	#117 (permalink)
jhtalisman CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In a happy euphoric state Posts: 1,861	Re: Folding@Home Finally have my 2nd machine up and running F@H. First WU = 20,000,000 steps/frames. What a way to test a practically new rig. Force flashed the BIOS so I could overclock it and it's running at 2.47ghz instead of the stock 2.2ghz with cheap DDR400 memory. So far it's working well. I just think it's going to take awhile with that huge WU. Hopefully it's worth a few thousand points . BTW, we have cracked the top 10% now. __________________ My Current Phenomenal System There are plenty of people who pray for peace, but if prayer were enough it would have come to be. - Jewel Kilcher From Rounders: You can't lose what you don't put in the middle. But then again, you can't win very much either. How to check/enable DMA Click here to learn more about the CDFreak's Folding at Home team NOW! The most important things are the hardest to say. They are the things you get ashamed of, because words diminish them-words shrink things that seemed limitless when in your head to no more than living size when they're brought out. But it's more than that, isn't it? The most important things lie close to wherever your secret heart is buried, like landmarks to a treasure your enemies would love to steal away. And you may make revelations that cost you dearly only to have people look at you in a funny way, not understanding what you've said at all, or why you thought it was so important that you almost cried while saying it. That's the worst, I think. When the secret stays locked within not for want of a teller but for the want of an understanding ear. - Stephen King, intro to "The Body." "You're going to go through tough times. We all are. It's how you respond to them that counts. It's how you get back up. You're going to get knocked down. It's whether you stay down or whether you get back up and fight that counts." - Cancer survivor and Tennessee guard Chris Lofton.

25-11-2006	#118 (permalink)
Chriso CD Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Liverpool, England Posts: 2,051	Re: Folding@Home Well, I got the 50,000 one done, and I've got about 100 of the 500 one I snagged left to go. Wish I had the bottle to get those school computers doing some work... __________________ Videos of me playing piano, would be nice to have feedback from you all! [23:49] <Chriso> !seen Boobies [23:49] <JuPiLeR> I found 430 matches to your query; please refine it to see any output. PSU: Enermax Liberty 400w - Modular Mobo: Jetway V266B CPU: AMD AthlonXP 2000+ RAM: 256MB Crucial PC2100 + 512MB Corsair Value Select PC2100 HDD: 120GB Maxtor ATA133 8MB Cache + 320GB Western Digital "RAID Edition" ATA100 8MB Cache Gfx Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 passive cooled Sound Card: SB Live 1024 DVD-ROM Drive: Asus E-616 CD-RW: LiteON 52246S DVD-RW: NEC ND2510A in external Firewire enclosure (Prolific chipset) USB2 Card: ALI chipset (got an NEC chipset one waiting to go in) Firewire Card: Not sure of chipset...but it seems to work D-Link Network Card My old Voodoo 3 2000 PCI has now retired, still in perfect working order though! Get Firefox! Join CDFreaks

27-11-2006	#119 (permalink)
ccbadd CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 302	Re: Folding@Home Believe it or not, but only two of my machines are not at my house. Also, two of them are dual core, so I am only using 7 PC's. __________________ Pioneer 111D @ Maddog 111L, Benq 1655, Benq 1640, Lite-On DH-20A3S

27-11-2006	#120 (permalink)
debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The c@ke mixer Posts: 9,509	Re: Folding@Home I'd hate to see your power bill __________________ CDFreaks - Overwhelmed by Ignorance since 2005! We lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war! Click Here to sign up to the resistance movement! Viva La Resistance!

29-11-2006	#123 (permalink)
debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The c@ke mixer Posts: 9,509	Re: Folding@Home Except for the Advanced Scientific Cores, the Large WU's & the GPU (Radoen X1900/X1950) clients, every WU has the same point/CPU time ratio. The large WU, Scientific Cores & GPU dependant cores have much higher system requirements than the standard cores, so you get bonus points. Generally, these will require a $hitload of RAM & HD thrashing, which wears out your HD alot faster __________________ CDFreaks - Overwhelmed by Ignorance since 2005! We lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war! Click Here to sign up to the resistance movement! Viva La Resistance!

29-11-2006	#125 (permalink)
debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The c@ke mixer Posts: 9,509	Re: Folding@Home Damn! I'm going with standard WU's then It takes too long between increments for these large WU's to add points __________________ CDFreaks - Overwhelmed by Ignorance since 2005! We lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war! Click Here to sign up to the resistance movement! Viva La Resistance!