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Old 04-09-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Another way around DRM?

I read the long thread on cracking DRM. I come to these conclusions.

# 1 If DRM can been cracked, someone probably has done it and is keeping their mouths shut.

# 2 If there is any crack for DRM , as soon as it hits the boards, the powers that be will find out and and patch the hole.

# 3 The only way around DRM is to run some sort of sound recorder while playing the "protected content".

# 4 If you intend to do the sound recorder, you need the license to play the protected content.

So based on these four facts, has anyone tried fooling with their clock on the I-Pod or WMA/MP player? By perhaps developing a program where the clock is fooled into thinking its still the first day and not the 30th day, the licenses will never expire.

So this brings another question, does DRM recognize the amount of plays or pure time when the licences need refreshing or need to be updated from say Napster to Go?

Then would fooling the internal clock help any- if at all? Remember this will do absolutely nothing to help you burn Cds or convert in to MP3- but would perhaps preserve your DRM WMA recordings indefinately.


Lastly, has anyone tried to actually tried to MAKE a DRM protected WMA recording themselves? If you could MAKE a DRM product and then you would naturally have the key for it.

And exploiting the way you encrypt your DRM product, could you also exploit other DRM product in some way?

I doubt that the clock method or fooling with the encryption process ( by using DRM to encrypt your own material) to bring about a master decryption key for all DRM product would work or would it?

Altering the licenses to bring out or add a burning license to the DRM product so one could burn the CD at will from say Napster To Go or Yahoo Unlimited.

I am not advocating anything or encouraging anyone to try this, just trying to understand the technology better...as a consumer.

Your thoughts?

The Drm scheme is not the best. The best way of course would be a $10.00 tax on broadband and a $ 3 tax on dial up for everyone across the board and a 25% surcharge on blank CD's and then allow everyone to download what ever they wished. That would bring in a lot of money to the RIAA and the labels . One flat rate and major problem solved.
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Re: Another way around DRM?

My thoughts:

Buy CD's.

If you really insist on going the "crippled content subscription" route, then get a good soundcard that has an optical output (such as a Chaintech AV-710), and a minidisc recorder.

Okay, MiniDisc has a DRM scheme of its own, but at least it doesn't include some kind of expiry date. Your MiniDisc recordings will play forever.

A nice thing about MiniDisc is that the discs themselves are very robust; they cannot get scratched and will stand up to at least a decade of ordinary use. Your hard drive and CD-R's won't last that long.
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Re: Another way around DRM?

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My thoughts:

Buy CD's.

If you really insist on going the "crippled content subscription" route, then get a good soundcard that has an optical output (such as a Chaintech AV-710), and a minidisc recorder.

Okay, MiniDisc has a DRM scheme of its own, but at least it doesn't include some kind of expiry date. Your MiniDisc recordings will play forever.

A nice thing about MiniDisc is that the discs themselves are very robust; they cannot get scratched and will stand up to at least a decade of ordinary use. Your hard drive and CD-R's won't last that long.
we're in the new age of using flash drives and harddrives... Md players? don't waste your money...
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It's too bad that you're so ignorant of good technology.

MD is much more durable than hard disks, and much cheaper per storage unit than flash memory.
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but it's so out buddy... join the bandwagon, last i heard MD's industry was slowly going out of business...
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Yeah lets all be trendy and pay threw the nose for cool little hd's signed by U2. Practicality my friend. Not everybody cares about keeping up with the Jones.

Back on topic, MD as a way around the DRM isn't a bad idea if you already have a MD player or don't already have an mp3 player. However, it is cheaper and certainly much less of a hassle to just buy the background recorder and be done with it. That way you can use or transfer the file however/whenever you wish.
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